Warrior General Games

Originally posted by bhall43
seriously...i see all these guys mentioning that strength shouldn't play a role in anything for elusives...yet they still think they should first cap it at least? why? whats the point?



prevent fumbles

Originally posted by Nuge20
leg strength =/=GLB strength
You think Brandon Jacobs is breaking tackles because of his biceps?

Originally posted by Phil Jackson
Do you keep missing the (+) next to that?

Obviously a combo is going to at least have 68 and a power at least 73 and both will have EQ in it.

Which is a huge difference from 61. Enough to put 20-25 skill points into an SA tree (more compared to Power).

I think you want there to be a ridiculous divergence that isn't necessary at all and not very interesting tbh.

Originally posted by Timetoshine-Beta
I'm going to hurdle over the defense right into the endzone.

we need a jumpingback. Anybody ever had 100 jumping?

Originally posted by Bukowski
Of course someone that doesn't build RBs, would expect them to need ridiculous attributes, just to not fumble the damn ball.

If I had to guess, sounds like a Defensive Coordinator, tbh.

I think kurieg is a smart man, but him thinking like a Defensive Coordinator crosses my mind a lot when I see him discussing things in these threads.

Elusives getting nerfed and never faking anyone must not be an important issue, this thread is only 33 pages long and adding page after page by the minute

Originally posted by bhall43
seriously...i see all these guys mentioning that strength shouldn't play a role in anything for elusives...yet they still think they should first cap it at least? why? whats the point?



Thats exactly what I have been saying, Kurieg is basing his argument from THE CURRENT SIM, and not how an elusive HB should LOGICALLY be built.

Originally posted by kurieg
61 Strength is retarded for a combo or power back. It's not even worth mentioning.

This is what I don't get.

Barry sanders would have been 105 speed 105 agility 80 vision 73 carry 44 str.


Why should super elusive backs need str? With all that agility/vision they should be able to avoid hits, and make plays. If you are saying 61 str is retarded for a hb in this current sim to be productive, i agree, but this is clearly not a case of working as intended, and shouldn't be the case.

It does seem odd that agility plays no role in jukes and fakes. Some speed back screaming down the field with no agility and having guys magically flop over seems counter-intuitive.

Originally posted by AngryDragon
Originally posted by Timetoshine-Beta

I'm going to hurdle over the defense right into the endzone.

we need a jumpingback. Anybody ever had 100 jumping?

not an HB, but jumping doesn't work like it should

Originally posted by blln4lyf
Originally posted by Bukowski

Of course someone that doesn't build RBs, would expect them to need ridiculous attributes, just to not fumble the damn ball.

If I had to guess, sounds like a Defensive Coordinator, tbh.

I think kurieg is a smart man, but him thinking like a Defensive Coordinator crosses my mind a lot when I see him discussing things in these threads.

I'm sure he is a smart guy, but common sense doesn't always apply to the intelligent.

Originally posted by AngryDragon
we need a jumpingback. Anybody ever had 100 jumping?

I think I was going to try it at one point...but decided not to since it would be retardedly hard to find a team.

Originally posted by Nuge20
prevent fumbles

but they arent getting hit...they just are supposed to run out of bounds...like Speedster!

Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by Phil Jackson

And I don't think 61 + str resembles anything like what an elusive back should look like.

Softcapped is all they should need.

i have to ask...why would they even need soft capped strength if their main goal is to run away from defenders?o_O

So they don't fumble instantly - or every time they touch the ball. There needs to be at least some Strength in the build IMO.

Originally posted by jdbolick

You think Brandon Jacobs is breaking tackles because of his biceps?

He is breaking tackles because he is 265 lbs and his core is insane