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Procrustes
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Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Nothing to mock if they're banned imo.


welcome to CPL?

 
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Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams

Nothing to mock if they're banned imo.


welcome to CPL?



to what?
 
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Originally posted by Gturtle
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Gturtle
Really, the fact that four moderators, who by the definition of the job should ease tension on the forum, have managed to escalate the tensions to the point where the administrators have sanctioned the creation of this private forum speaks volumes of their ability to perform their assigned tasks.

i agree...
but one counter-argument is that it's not necessarily the moderators' fault if the rabble doesn't like being forced to obey the rules.
another counter-argument is that perhaps the moderators should be even more pro-active and prevent certain people from being mocked into a coronary in the first place.

counter argument: VT and DB seem to manage just fine


yes... and that's certainly the view of those who already agree with the process in the first place.

meanwhile, there are those who maintain that the rules aren't being enforced in the CPL, so they summon other mods or complain to pallow.

..........which brings us back to the structural argument (unless you seriously think there's a compromise to be had here).
 
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Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams

That said: I'm not necessarily wholly against an addition of a new sub-forum for them, i'm just saying it won't help so if we go into things with that plan it would be tantamount to starting GLB with someone like DD in charge of customer support.


so... why do you think it wouldn't help?


BECAUSE THEY WANT JIMMYS PARENTS DEAD
 
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Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Gturtle

Originally posted by Catullus 16

Originally posted by Gturtle

Really, the fact that four moderators, who by the definition of the job should ease tension on the forum, have managed to escalate the tensions to the point where the administrators have sanctioned the creation of this private forum speaks volumes of their ability to perform their assigned tasks.

i agree...
but one counter-argument is that it's not necessarily the moderators' fault if the rabble doesn't like being forced to obey the rules.
another counter-argument is that perhaps the moderators should be even more pro-active and prevent certain people from being mocked into a coronary in the first place.

counter argument: VT and DB seem to manage just fine


yes... and that's certainly the view of those who already agree with the process in the first place.

meanwhile, there are those who maintain that the rules aren't being enforced in the CPL, so they summon other mods or complain to pallow.

..........which brings us back to the structural argument (unless you seriously think there's a compromise to be had here).


complaining to pallow is fine of them imo.

But the "other mods" they summon are just as immature and butthurt as them because of the shattastic mod-selection process.
 
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Originally posted by Gturtle
Having to click one more time to get to CPL is :effort:


you seriously navigate to the CPL each time?

why not just use a bookmark?

for that matter, why not just have a script that completely blocks the GG subforum and makes the CPL subforum appear as it always has?

 
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Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16

Originally posted by Azure Dreams


That said: I'm not necessarily wholly against an addition of a new sub-forum for them, i'm just saying it won't help so if we go into things with that plan it would be tantamount to starting GLB with someone like DD in charge of customer support.


so... why do you think it wouldn't help?


BECAUSE THEY WANT JIMMYS PARENTS DEAD


This can't be said enough really.
 
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Originally posted by Chessey
THIS GOD DAMN IT
CPL Moderators as in who ever doesn't fuck shit up every time they go there should be in charge
I get PMs from time to time from users asking for help from their forum (so does deathblade)
I try to pass the buck to another moderator who might know better so i don't pull a shitty job.
Put Moderator X, Y, Z, AA in CPL
Put Moderator AB, AC, AD, and AE in the others
Ta Da


this still doesn't get around the soft corruption complaint, though.

(again, not saying that's what actually happens... but it is the argument of the GG crowd)

 
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TBH I didn't think that there was much moderating being done in CPL, but believe it or not there are people with extensive ban histories hailing out of CPL

So that "VT is playing favourites and only banning the people that don't frequent CPL!!!1111!" notion is wrong
 
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Almost every ban I've ever received was from VT.

Every single ban I've ever deserved WAS from VT.

I've also received a couple unwarranted bans from VT, and I bitched at him for it.
 
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Originally posted by Azure Dreams
YARGH ABWAJTHAWRJH
For this to work, the police have to be competent.


one topic at a time.

especially since there are some competing ideas about "competence" here. i'm guessing the GG crowd currently thinks that NMV and drksandman are the best mods out there.
 
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Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16
okay... why aren't people getting this?
it doesn't matter why they're upset. they will always be upset. or GLB comes crashing down on their side, and then you guys would be upset. there will always be this disagreement... it will never go away.
so not that that's settled, what possible solutions could there be? short of deciding completely in favor of one side or the other, how about segregating the groups into two different forums.
sounds great. prevents all complaints. problem solved.

The last line of your post is invalidated by the first.

are you saying people will be constantly confused about which subforum to go into?

second line you wangface >.>


being upset =/= having complaints

by complaints, i mean something justifiable to forward upstairs. i'm guessing neither side would be happy being relegated to a subforum... but sometimes that's how compromises work.
 
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Oh goddamn Cat, just go make a GG thread.
 
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Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams

YARGH ABWAJTHAWRJH
For this to work, the police have to be competent.


one topic at a time.

especially since there are some competing ideas about "competence" here. i'm guessing the GG crowd currently thinks that NMV and drksandman are the best mods out there.


no u
 
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Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by Catullus 16
it doesn't matter why they're upset. they will always be upset. or GLB comes crashing down on their side, and then you guys would be upset. there will always be this disagreement... it will never go away.

It does if you ignore it for long enough.

but then it just escalates... you need bort to ignore it, too.
or just wait until GLB runs out of new users.

lol @ GLB running out of new users if people don't like CPL.
If people are in CPL, they have already been around for approximately a year.


i meant new users period.

as in: the game is done.
 
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