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Originally posted by seths99
it just goes to show you even more how the whole system is for profit, as opposed to service oriented. which is a goddammed shame when it comes to health care


I'm not sure if you've realized yelling at your pharmacist isn't the solution or if you're really as blind putting him in the same group as the business executives that actually caused it all because they're greedy leeches?
 
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Originally posted by seths99
it just goes to show you even more how the whole system is for profit, as opposed to service oriented. which is a goddammed shame when it comes to health care


Yes. Yes it does. And if people aren't dicks, I try to skew it in their favor. Less profit, more service. You're welcome.

Point being: I wanted to rant because some dickshit threatens me when Im trying to help him. He must obviously not want help. Since I am a kind person I will oblige his wants and not help him any more.
 
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Originally posted by Knick
I'm not sure if you've realized yelling at your pharmacist isn't the solution or if you're really as blind putting him in the same group as the business executives that actually caused it all because they're greedy leeches?


I think he might actually be the guy from the pharmacy tbh.
 
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Originally posted by Knick
I'm not sure if you've realized yelling at your pharmacist isn't the solution or if you're really as blind putting him in the same group as the business executives that actually caused it all because they're greedy leeches?


I'm simply saying that if it was much more of a service industry rather than a for profit one, there wouldn't even be a question of being able to apply additional discounts, etc. Note that I have not shit on rams, I have merely said that he's a cog in the wheel. I get that he has little power. but still, the fact that he has some, at least the power to go out of his way to find a cheaper price if he wants to, illustrates the for profit nature
 
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Originally posted by rams78110
Yes. Yes it does. And if people aren't dicks, I try to skew it in their favor. Less profit, more service. You're welcome.

Point being: I wanted to rant because some dickshit threatens me when Im trying to help him. He must obviously not want help. Since I am a kind person I will oblige his wants and not help him any more.


as I said in the post above, the very fact that you have this option is illustrative of the for profit nature. I get that if a guy is a dick, he is likely to receive lesser service. pharmacy techs are human, too. but if the whole industry were service, rather than for profit, those options wouldn't even exist.
 
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Originally posted by seths99
I'm simply saying that if it was much more of a service industry rather than a for profit one, there wouldn't even be a question of being able to apply additional discounts, etc. Note that I have not shit on rams, I have merely said that he's a cog in the wheel. I get that he has little power. but still, the fact that he has some, at least the power to go out of his way to find a cheaper price if he wants to, illustrates the for profit nature


Would you want your prescription to take 3 hours so someone can furiously apply discount cards which may or may not even work with your insurance? It definitely is a service driven industry, where the industry standard for retail pharmacies across the board is 20 minutes per prescription from drop off to pick up. Everyone has the power to find a cheaper price for anything if they want to. You're acting like it's simple and insta-will discount. I dont look at the computer and think "Lower the price". I have to manually input every single card I will attempt to use. I have to submit each prescription one at a time to the third party insurance. I have to wait for them to receive it. I have to wait for them to approve or deny it. I have to wait for it to come back to my computer. I have to re-bag every individual prescription, and re-do the paperwork for every one even if it was denied. If everything is flawless, that takes 5 minutes. We do 500 prescriptions almost every week day. Wanna crunch the numbers on that?

My job is not to save you money. Im not your accountant. That is a simple good-will gesture I show to people who are kind. My job is to make sure your prescription is correct, safe, and prompt. And I am damn good at my job.
 
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Originally posted by seths99
as I said in the post above, the very fact that you have this option is illustrative of the for profit nature. I get that if a guy is a dick, he is likely to receive lesser service. pharmacy techs are human, too. but if the whole industry were service, rather than for profit, those options wouldn't even exist.


And if the entire world ran on sunshine and rainbows this wouldn't be an issue at all.

But it doesn't. And it is.
 
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Originally posted by seths99
as I said in the post above, the very fact that you have this option is illustrative of the for profit nature. I get that if a guy is a dick, he is likely to receive lesser service. pharmacy techs are human, too. but if the whole industry were service, rather than for profit, those options wouldn't even exist.


Almost everyone has that option. Not sure why I am in particular expected to compromise my standard of service to do so.
 
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sigh. you're really not picking up what I'm laying down.
I'm saying that if the whole thing was designed with service and keeping people healthy in mind, rather than turning a profit, then none of that would even be an option

I'm not shitting on your job or your ability to count pills.
 
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So since this miscommunication is about to spiral out of control, I don't think that was a dig at you rams, it is a dig at the system.
 
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Originally posted by Knick
And if the entire world ran on sunshine and rainbows this wouldn't be an issue at all.

But it doesn't. And it is.


no shit. and I simply point out one instance of this, and you two go off and assume that I'm some douchebag yelling at the guy counting out my prescription
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
So since this miscommunication is about to spiral out of control, I don't think that was a dig at you rams, it is a dig at the system.


ding!
 
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Originally posted by seths99
sigh. you're really not picking up what I'm laying down.
I'm saying that if the whole thing was designed with service and keeping people healthy in mind, rather than turning a profit, then none of that would even be an option

I'm not shitting on your job or your ability to count pills.


Count and bottle. That's the part that gets most people. The bottling.
 
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Originally posted by rams78110
Count and bottle. That's the part that gets most people. The bottling.


well, played, laddie.
 
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Originally posted by seths99
sigh. you're really not picking up what I'm laying down.
I'm saying that if the whole thing was designed with service and keeping people healthy in mind, rather than turning a profit, then none of that would even be an option

I'm not shitting on your job or your ability to count pills.


Aye. 99% of people do go ahead and blame the pharmacy for it though. You can understand my defensiveness, I hope. I'd like to change the system as well. The bureaucracy and redundancy of a lot of it is what adds to the cost outside the insurance and manufacturers dicking around. Cut out a lot of the unneeded laws (there are a LOT of redundant laws we must follow in a pharmacy that do nothing for safety, speed, or control) and people enforcing them and you drop costs.
 
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