Warrior General Games

Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
we were both working another job.

we thought people might want to play GLB.

side project became full time job and yes, we are trying to make a living.

The sim simply cannot go forward into Season 16 the way Season 15 unfolded. Really, this season was easily the worst of the lot. God only knows what the announced changes will do, but from what I gather, (making morale even more prevalent) it's only going to be worse.

Sometimes, discretion is the better part of valor. Go back to Season 14's sim until the desired changes are really, truly final (and well-tested).

Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
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I will try!

lol

Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
Originally posted by Baw333_1994

Fixing the sim and making the game more competitive should be tops on the list for GLB instead of all these new bells and whistles that really do nothing good competition wise for the game!

i'm glad you pointed that out in this thread, as we are working on getting leagues more competitve right here.

there are lots of good ideas and we have seen a lively debate on the subject.

I agree there have been many good ideas...but many of them have been ignored or gone un-responded to by GLB Inc. which concerns me

Originally posted by Baw333_1994
Originally posted by DigitalDaggers

Originally posted by Baw333_1994


Fixing the sim and making the game more competitive should be tops on the list for GLB instead of all these new bells and whistles that really do nothing good competition wise for the game!

i'm glad you pointed that out in this thread, as we are working on getting leagues more competitve right here.

there are lots of good ideas and we have seen a lively debate on the subject.

I agree there have been many good ideas...but many of them have been ignored or gone un-responded to by GLB Inc. which concerns me

GLB is not going to respond to every idea posted in the thread.

Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
Originally posted by Baw333_1994

Originally posted by DigitalDaggers


Originally posted by Baw333_1994



Fixing the sim and making the game more competitive should be tops on the list for GLB instead of all these new bells and whistles that really do nothing good competition wise for the game!

i'm glad you pointed that out in this thread, as we are working on getting leagues more competitve right here.

there are lots of good ideas and we have seen a lively debate on the subject.

I agree there have been many good ideas...but many of them have been ignored or gone un-responded to by GLB Inc. which concerns me

GLB is not going to respond to every idea posted in the thread.

Don't be silly...we all see what happens in here...the ideas that GLB back are responded to....the ones they dont like but are of great concern are locked or the poster is locked from posting in many cases. The mods flock to certain threads like crazy but others they do nothing if its in their own interest! Very unfair!

Originally posted by Baw333_1994
GLB is not going to respond to every idea posted in the thread.

Don't be silly...we all see what happens in here...the ideas that GLB back are responded to....the ones they dont like but are of great concern are locked or the poster is locked from posting in many cases. The mods flock to certain threads like crazy but others they do nothing if its in their own interest! Very unfair!

There must be a man hiding under your bed to!

Come on guys GLB is a business and it would be a very poor business if they let every nut with a keyboard attempt to control the direction of the game. The fact is there are only about 100 users who have posted in this and other threads about change and it honestly a large amount of the posts are really only about 20-25 of the same people. The weight of what one person posts is not enough to force any kind of change. Saying that you see things in private cliquish forums has no weight because that is like complaining about the president but never bothering to vote.

If GLB wants real input they need to find a way to get options out to the mass and have them respond. They don't really seem to like polls. They could use something like ballots with issues having options. We could elect a player counsel like they do in eve online to represent the players issues.

In the end it's clear that these threads accomplish very little and in some cases are destructive in the game.

Originally posted by Pietasters
Originally posted by Baw333_1994

GLB is not going to respond to every idea posted in the thread.

Don't be silly...we all see what happens in here...the ideas that GLB back are responded to....the ones they dont like but are of great concern are locked or the poster is locked from posting in many cases. The mods flock to certain threads like crazy but others they do nothing if its in their own interest! Very unfair!

There must be a man hiding under your bed to!

Come on guys GLB is a business and it would be a very poor business if they let every nut with a keyboard attempt to control the direction of the game. The fact is there are only about 100 users who have posted in this and other threads about change and it honestly a large amount of the posts are really only about 20-25 of the same people. The weight of what one person posts is not enough to force any kind of change. Saying that you see things in private cliquish forums has no weight because that is like complaining about the president but never bothering to vote.

If GLB wants real input they need to find a way to get options out to the mass and have them respond. They don't really seem to like polls. They could use something like ballots with issues having options. We could elect a player counsel like they do in eve online to represent the players issues.

In the end it's clear that these threads accomplish very little and in some cases are destructive in them game.

Very well said. I suggested this game move to a college type structure with a larger league but smaller conference and different bowl games to play for, pretty much cater both to the elite teams who will play in bigger bowl games and the competitive teams who doesn't have the greatest build but work very hard with their gameplanning. Having elite and competitive leagues is a start but the problems will always be there and effective level is a start but it's still doesn't accurately account for unique builds and no matter what formula you use, it's still wont give you a universal look to how good that team is. I still stick by my story that 75 to 80% of success in competition is in the builds and 20 to 25% is in the strategy. If you dont believe me than take the 16-0 casual team and a 10-6 casual team and swap the OC and DC around and I bet you that 9 times out of 10 that 16-0 team with the OC from the 10-6 team will still win.

I am not saying that an elite built team should be punish for putting together such a great team. I am saying that we have to come to terms and accept this as there are so much you can do with build to gain a massive seperation in competition and having a great gameplan is just icing on the cake to make sure you dont oversee something and end up getting upsetted by another team.
The college idea is simple, teams are in a ranking structure for each league and even the conference that each team play has a ranking structure. If you are really trying to make this a fun game, than I think a college style base game is perfect (and maybe 10 years from now you can come out with a Pro GLB- but that's another topic way 5 years down the road) Anyway, I say why not. Each conference can have several bowl games that they can get invited to. The better the team, the better the conference, the better the bowl game.

If the idea is to have fun and a good competition meter between the teams who invest several hours into perfecting build and their AI....than this maybe a good system. College is already known for teams running up score boards so to me I see this game more college realistic than anything close to a Pro team. Take a look at the Top World Pro team and look at the numbers this team put up and this is not all the best of the best team but it's a good number of some World Pro team who are still at the top of their game and still getting beat down

But like mention above, there are way too many other good ideas for GLB to comment on so something like ballots with issues having options. We could elect a player counsel like they do in eve online to represent the players issues. Pietasters said it best even if the college system is garbage.

If you were actually looking for a suggestion that would help the entire GLB be more competitive, than the only thing you can do with that is educate owners, OC, DC, and players about build. That is where the true competition comes from

Pyramid system, bottom to top.

Originally posted by 5STAR
consolidate leagues and quit spreading the user base over some many different options.

Example would be casual and normal....make normal easier to run and remove casual.

Way too many caps...we have a cap for just about every level...serious overkill

Stop adding layers to the game. Each time you add an additional layer it is something the best teams will master creating a bigger gap between the haves and have nots.

You gotta ask yourself...
Do we really needs coaches? Because it will be one thing teams must have to win

Do we really need 55 man rosters? Most average teams can not field a full team and thus have no shot

Do we really need to increase the energy/morale drain? You are causing more morale spirals making decent games blow outs

Do we really need to add more options to team finances? Another thing great owners will master while the average guy has little chance

AEQ and VAs are another thing that kills competition. The best dots always have the best VAs and AEQ and that leads to blowouts. If you want to have VAs and AEQ you need to cap it at like 30 VAs and 1-2 AEQ pieces or the normal user will NEVER compete.

ALGs force dots to be built in a way that is counter intuitive.....if you do not train correctly or hit high caps early enough you will never compete. Plus building in this manor make the lower leagues worthless. People do not want to build a dot for a full calendar year to spend 2-3 seasons playing meaningful games but yet ALGs make them do just that.

League structure is a very minor problem to the competition problem. The main cause is there are way too many things for the normal user to keep up with and in result he gets annihilated by teams who can manage everything.

This game has been on a track to cater to the hardcore user for so long it has lead to a few elite teams and 29 others that have no chance in EVERY league.


Quality post. Reflects my feelings on this great game almost exactly.

fyi - i love college basketball's league structure.

What do you think are the top three ideas in this thread?



I'm in the process of reading through again and checking to see what suggestions/ideas would work best. I'm interested to hear what you think the best proposals are.

I have seen alot of ideas in here, I think the best option is a blend of some things out of a couple of them. Though some will change if the training speed/plateau increases. Whatever is picked will have to be fluid. A locked system will not work.

Originally posted by Vortus
I have seen alot of ideas in here, I think the best option is a blend of some things out of a couple of them. Though some will change if the training speed/plateau increases. Whatever is picked will have to be fluid. A locked system will not work.

It does seem like fluid is a good system

i wonder how long it would take to create an ALG to rank all the teams in GLB from top to bottom...would likely be necessary for a fluid system...

Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
It does seem like fluid is a good system

i wonder how long it would take to create an ALG to rank all the teams in GLB from top to bottom...would likely be necessary for a fluid system...

lol Have you guys figured out how to keep level 46 HBs out of level 26 capped leagues yet? Good luck with the sorting system.