Originally posted by seayjoel
Originally posted by SAGA45
Did Staz really quit?
He logged in today so I doubt it Maybe's he's given up on updating this thread's OP.
I'll repost my idea for HULK (should be called Workhorse Back)
Originally posted by SAGA45
Hulk (Offense/ requires 50 confidence, 40 Stamina and 60 Strength)
This player has the ability to absorb punishment and wear down a defense over the course of the game. Each level of Hulk gives a +3% chance to cause an additional -5 energy/morale loss to defenders on tackles broken with Power Thru and Lower the Shoulder, and a +3% chance to weaken the morale/energy effects of Big/Monster Hit tackles by 50%.
Notes:
- Unique Triple pre-req makes this VA hard to access for young vets
- Additional Energy/ Morale loss at -5 isn't overpowered and is balanced since it's not attached to every missed/broken tackle type.
- Big/Monster Hit would still be 50% effective with a 55% chance to be 100%-200% (if defender has Helmet Crash) effective against this VA when maxed thus they aren't completely neutralized and will always negatively impact the ballcarrier.
- Helmet Crash is still very effective against this VA as it doesn't buffer the back from the -3 energy/morale loss that Helmet Crash can deliver on every tackle.
- Doesn't boost tackle-breaking frequency/chance nor does it increase the likelihood of Lower Shoulder and Power Thru firing.
- Good compliment VA to Bruiser and Short Yardage Monster (think Helmet Crash + Power Tackler + Sure Tackler on defense)
- Places emphasis on confidence - a key but often overlooked and under-emphasized mental attribute
- Simply a good, balanced VA for those wanting to build a tough, workhorse balanced or powerback that can pound and physically/mentally wear down a defense over the course of 4qtrs.
- Probably a bad choice in name as this VA is pretty balanced and not over-powered like the name 'HULK' would instantly imply. Something like 'Workhorse Back' would arguably be more fitting.
Thoughts?
Originally posted by SAGA45
Originally posted by Forbin
Originally posted by SAGA45
Originally posted by Forbin
I think we're as balanced as we've ever been at the moment with power back performance. A really good power back will break a few tackles against a great defense, and get some yards, but he'll still get stopped short by a really good tackling defense.
This doesn't increase a back's break-tackle chance though.
Over time, it will still have that effect.
No different than Helmet Crash increasing Force-Fumble chance over time.
Originally posted by SAGA45
Originally posted by Ken1
what you propose is a large nerf to Big Hit/Monster Hit/Helmet Crash
Not really, Ken. Big Hit /Monster Hit/Helmet Crash would still be 50% effective with a 55% chance of being 100% against a player with HULK maxed. Also, Helmet Crash can activate on ANY tackle - not just those where a Big/Monster Hit is administered. So even if Big/Monster Hit don't fire, the additional -3 energy/morale is still applied. Meanwhile, HULK's energy/morale effects only activate on Lower Shoulder and Power Thru - not all broken tackle types.... missed dive tackles, stiff arms, ordinary broken tackles which are lot more frequent - and they're also spread across the entire defense whereas multiple defenders with Helmet Crash can concentrate it's effects on one offensive player/RB for 4qtrs. All in all, the defense and Helmet Crash/Big Hit/Monster Hit still win against HULK in terms of a full game when you look at how both SA's work. HULK just offers the back some mental shielding and a chance to dish out some morale-damaging effects in the process.
Originally posted by SAGA45
Originally posted by tonylieu
Originally posted by SAGA45
Originally posted by tonylieu
Originally posted by Forbin
The reason? I think we're as balanced as we've ever been at the moment with power back performance.
Overall balance wouldn't be disturbed as this VA isn't overpowered and is itself balanced.
you don't know that. Nobody knows. The risk vs reward of adding this VA is not worth it, at least in the near future IMO.
If nobody knows then how can you be in position to say the 'risk vs reward is not worth it'? I've already explained how it's not overpowered, has more than a viable defensive counterpart already in place, and is balanced. Please explain the potential risk because I don't see any as it stands.
link:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2941796 
