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Originally posted by benmint0n
If you lived in the Wild West I find it hard to believe you'd think a Sioux warrior was good.. Open a history book


Originally posted by BadassMcfister
So because I would think he was bad, it would make it so? You think his alignment is linked to public perception of his people at the time?


Originally posted by benmint0n
You are so dense.


Plus my buddy Ben started to resort to insults instead of answering questions.


 
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Originally posted by BadassMcfister
Basically, there is no proof that Zook was good or bad, he's now dead, it looks like there was possible foul play and Ben is still implying what a bad guy he was. Seems like a scummy agenda at work to me.


You are making quite a few assumptions to get to that conclusion.
 
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Originally posted by benmint0n
You are making quite a few assumptions to get to that conclusion.


Originally posted by benmint0n
So based on Zook's character it seems as if his 'officer of the law' claim was yet another lie

I've thought Marc and badass seem the most scummy of the people left:

vote:Marc and vote:badass


No assumption made about you not being able to wait to keep up the claim of how "bad" Zook was. This is your first post after the day started. You basically defend your pressure on Zook, because I'm gonna assume you know it looks bad. Then you just throw out two votes, with a pretty weak argument for them.
 
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I've been saying all game that you, zook, and Marc look bad.
 
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Originally posted by Sugar Kapaa
what the hell did i just reado_O


I'm not really sure what they are arguing about either. Zook made up the cop claim to set himself up to take someone (ben?) out today if he won the duel yesterday.

What concerns me right now is that there is still at least 1 BG on the loose, if not 2 (the gunshots could be a vig?). My first bet is marc simply based on his gameplay to this point.

I'm not sure what to make of the writeup of the last duel, and like I said, still have my suspicions that Sugar has a duel advantage especially in light of the writeup. My gut says Sugar, but it does look like Badass is trying pretty hard to paint ben as a BG right now, especially when zook appears to have made up the cop role (after reaching lynch I might add) with the sole purpose of furthering some agenda should he survive the duel.
 
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Originally posted by Timmah
I'm not really sure what they are arguing about either. Zook made up the cop claim to set himself up to take someone (ben?) out today if he won the duel yesterday.

What concerns me right now is that there is still at least 1 BG on the loose, if not 2 (the gunshots could be a vig?). My first bet is marc simply based on his gameplay to this point.

I'm not sure what to make of the writeup of the last duel, and like I said, still have my suspicions that Sugar has a duel advantage especially in light of the writeup. My gut says Sugar, but it does look like Badass is trying pretty hard to paint ben as a BG right now, especially when zook appears to have made up the cop role (after reaching lynch I might add) with the sole purpose of furthering some agenda should he survive the duel.

oh shit! you are the serial killer or you have some role outside of the gun fighters.
the gun fighters know how schrauben was killed given their night 2 pm. so the SK and two gun fighters targeted schrauben. a gun fighter would not suggest a vig.

Vote Timmah for duel

 
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Originally posted by Sugar Kapaa

oh shit! you are the serial killer or you have some role outside of the gun fighters.
the gun fighters know how schrauben was killed given their night 2 pm. so the SK and two gun fighters targeted schrauben. a gun fighter would not suggest a vig.

Vote Timmah for duel



that makes zero sense. are you saying that you and zook targetted Schrauben last night?
 
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Originally posted by Sugar Kapaa

oh shit! you are the serial killer or you have some role outside of the gun fighters.
the gun fighters know how schrauben was killed given their night 2 pm. so the SK and two gun fighters targeted schrauben. a gun fighter would not suggest a vig.

Vote Timmah for duel



Originally posted by Timmah
that makes zero sense. are you saying that you and zook targetted Schrauben last night?


or are you saying that schrauben was targeted 3 times last night? how is speculating that he was targeted 3 times any different that me suggesting that there is at least 1 if not 2 BGs on the loose? your rationale is escaping me right now since it appears that you are suggesting that anyone who targeted schrauben last night knows how he was killed based on their N2 pm, and I do not know the details of who targeted schrauben...
 
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Originally posted by Timmah
that makes zero sense.
of course it does not to you. the gun fighters received a specific pm and ability. you suggesting there is a vig does not make sense given the specifics of the pm received by the gun fighters/outlaws or whatever we are called.

 
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Originally posted by Timmah
I'm not really sure what they are arguing about either. Zook made up the cop claim to set himself up to take someone (ben?) out today if he won the duel yesterday.

What concerns me right now is that there is still at least 1 BG on the loose, if not 2 (the gunshots could be a vig?). My first bet is marc simply based on his gameplay to this point.

I'm not sure what to make of the writeup of the last duel, and like I said, still have my suspicions that Sugar has a duel advantage especially in light of the writeup. My gut says Sugar, but it does look like Badass is trying pretty hard to paint ben as a BG right now, especially when zook appears to have made up the cop role (after reaching lynch I might add) with the sole purpose of furthering some agenda should he survive the duel.


I think you're right about all of this, but my point is it looks like Zook's duel was rigged against him, and he didn't turn up as a bad guy according to the writeup. I think its safe to assume that whomever the BG's are didn't rig the duel against one of there own. I don't put much stock in what he said about being a cop as evidence of him being a BG, I write that up to gamesmanship, he was already in the duel, a cop claim would possibly give him more influence if he survived.

I am trying to paint Ben as a BG, because his gameplay thus far screams BG to me, maybe I just haven't gotten over his tunneling on my joke vote for like 6-7 pages.
 
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Originally posted by Sugar Kapaa
of course it does not to you. the gun fighters received a specific pm and ability. you suggesting there is a vig does not make sense given the specifics of the pm received by the gun fighters/outlaws or whatever we are called.



So by suggesting this it appears that your role allows you to shoot someone outside of the duel? because mine does not allow me to shoot anyone outside of a duel, nor do I have a knife to slash someone's throat with. I have no idea what the specifics of your role allows you to do, or what anyone else's role allows them to do.

why should I not vote for you for shooting schrauben?
 
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Originally posted by BadassMcfister
I think you're right about all of this, but my point is it looks like Zook's duel was rigged against him, and he didn't turn up as a bad guy according to the writeup. I think its safe to assume that whomever the BG's are didn't rig the duel against one of there own. I don't put much stock in what he said about being a cop as evidence of him being a BG, I write that up to gamesmanship, he was already in the duel, a cop claim would possibly give him more influence if he survived.

I am trying to paint Ben as a BG, because his gameplay thus far screams BG to me, maybe I just haven't gotten over his tunneling on my joke vote for like 6-7 pages.


well if you are right about the duel rigged against zook (basically for Sugar), I think Sugar needs to go back in based on that and the fact that he seems to have admitted to shooting schrauben...
 
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Originally posted by Timmah
So by suggesting this it appears that your role allows you to shoot someone outside of the duel? because mine does not allow me to shoot anyone outside of a duel, nor do I have a knife to slash someone's throat with. I have no idea what the specifics of your role allows you to do, or what anyone else's role allows them to do.

why should I not vote for you for shooting schrauben?


I have some thoughts here, Sugar has handily won two duels:

1st duel TheS doesn't even draw

2nd duel Zook falls towards Sugar after being shot by Sugar??

Both Sugar and Ben have posted about the possibility of it being based simply on the RPS roles.

I don't think Sugar should be nominated as I think you are on to something with the whole idea that Sugar has help in Duels, I'd lean towards voting in two people other than Sugar. So I think since Marc is already in Ben is the next best candidate.
 
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Originally posted by Timmah
So by suggesting this it appears that your role allows you to shoot someone outside of the duel? because mine does not allow me to shoot anyone outside of a duel, nor do I have a knife to slash someone's throat with. I have no idea what the specifics of your role allows you to do, or what anyone else's role allows them to do.

why should I not vote for you for shooting schrauben?
i understand you do not understand my role. because you are the serial killer.

+ i never said i shot or killed schrauben. two gun fighters/outlaws did.

 
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Originally posted by Sugar Kapaa
of course it does not to you. the gun fighters received a specific pm and ability. you suggesting there is a vig does not make sense given the specifics of the pm received by the gun fighters/outlaws or whatever we are called.



I think Sugar is just trying to muddle things up with these posts, he's lost me as well, possible deflection from my accusations against Ben?
 
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