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Deathblade
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Originally posted by Catullus 16
but that's the point of the structure.

the creation of the GG forum (subject to universal forum rules) means that the CPL forum (subject to whatever rules you guys create) means that the GG crowd can never complain about how they're treated in the CPL forum.


But...they will.
 
Gturtle
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Originally posted by Azure Dreams

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I do believe I said "Czech" and "Spanish" and not "English" ldo
 
Procrustes
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Originally posted by Iceman16
Cat, is the devil's advocate thing about done here? A GG Forum isn't going to do anything. CPL posters aren't going to stop being CPL posters.


that's not the point.

the GG forum becomes the safe haven for the GG crowd... and it's moderated by non-CPL mods so there's no whiff of soft corruption.

the CPL forum remains the place were CPL posters can feel free to continue being CPL posters.

my suggestion has absolutely nothing to do with asking CPL posters to change.
 
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Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by Catullus 16

but that's the point of the structure.

the creation of the GG forum (subject to universal forum rules) means that the CPL forum (subject to whatever rules you guys create) means that the GG crowd can never complain about how they're treated in the CPL forum.


But...they will.


If we create a GG sub forum, they'll complain that CPL should be the sub forum and not CPL GG
Edited by Gturtle on Jun 13, 2009 18:54:08
 
Gturtle
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Then they'll complain that people who post in CPL shouldn't be able to post in CPL GG unless they have a player in CPL
 
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I mean really, this is why the USA doesn't negotiate with terrorists.
 
Procrustes
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Originally posted by Gturtle
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Gturtle
Of course, considering most outsiders consider CPL to be "/b/-lite" or "FFA-lite" than I can say safely that I don't mind that they hate us, as long as we're allowed to keep on trucking.


well... that's somewhat the effect of being closer to the subject -- you see the granularity in things. kind of like how only a wine snob would insist that a vinho verde really isn't a white wine.

the perception of the CPL as equivalent to FFA or even /b/ is still a valid perception, no matter how wrong it technically is.


It's a valid perception in the sense that somebody who speaks neither czechoslovakian nor polish could confuse the two. That is to say, it's an ignorant and incorrect perception


bolded.

the point isn't to judge who's right/wrong... the point is to solve/prevent the problem. you'll never stop the flood of people the misperceive the CPL... so the only permanent solution is to deflect/contain them.
 
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Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Gturtle
It's a valid perception in the sense that somebody who speaks neither czechoslovakian nor polish could confuse the two. That is to say, it's an ignorant and incorrect perception

no such thing as czechoslovakiaN ldo


there ya go.
 
Deathblade
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Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Gturtle

Originally posted by Catullus 16

Originally posted by Gturtle

Of course, considering most outsiders consider CPL to be "/b/-lite" or "FFA-lite" than I can say safely that I don't mind that they hate us, as long as we're allowed to keep on trucking.


well... that's somewhat the effect of being closer to the subject -- you see the granularity in things. kind of like how only a wine snob would insist that a vinho verde really isn't a white wine.

the perception of the CPL as equivalent to FFA or even /b/ is still a valid perception, no matter how wrong it technically is.


It's a valid perception in the sense that somebody who speaks neither czechoslovakian nor polish could confuse the two. That is to say, it's an ignorant and incorrect perception


bolded.

the point isn't to judge who's right/wrong... the point is to solve/prevent the problem. you'll never stop the flood of people the misperceive the CPL... so the only permanent solution is to deflect/contain them.


So, if by this post, I perceive that you are a child molester, I should report you to police and have you arrested, even if it is completely inaccurate?
 
Apple Dapple
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Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams

Originally posted by Gturtle

It's a valid perception in the sense that somebody who speaks neither czechoslovakian nor polish could confuse the two. That is to say, it's an ignorant and incorrect perception

no such thing as czechoslovakiaN ldo


there ya go.


WhY DO YOU WANT JIMMY'S DAD DEAD?
 
Procrustes
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Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams
But you haven't explained why that necessitates your suggestions or a punishment of CPL or justifies the shitmodding tha thas happened.
"You there, Jimmy, Johnny, Catherine, you look really happy"
"Yeah, we're enjoying ourselves"
"Well, Shelby isn't, and the fact that you are and she isn't makes her feel bad, so I'm going to kill your parents"

?

....
see: Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by Catullus 16
the idea here isn't to give everyone their pretty pony and their castle in the sky... it's to come up with a structural solution to preclude any complaints. the existence of a CPL-free GG forum means that no one can ever complain about the CPL ever again... sounds win-win to me.

Except, since their forum is dead, they complain that the non-GG forum is active, and if they post there, they get flamed. Most of the complaints aren't because they dislike the forum, it is because they dislike other people having fun and want it taken away...regardless if they have a GG forum or not.


for starters, deathblade categorically misunderstood my proposal there... and your jimmy post categorically misunderstands my structural argument.

i'm most certainly not advocating a "punishment of CPL", much less trying to "justify shitmodding".

i'm only suggesting that since the CPL and GG crowd will never agree, that they should just be segregated into different forums. that's all.
 
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Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by Catullus 16

Originally posted by Gturtle


Originally posted by Catullus 16


Originally posted by Gturtle


Of course, considering most outsiders consider CPL to be "/b/-lite" or "FFA-lite" than I can say safely that I don't mind that they hate us, as long as we're allowed to keep on trucking.


well... that's somewhat the effect of being closer to the subject -- you see the granularity in things. kind of like how only a wine snob would insist that a vinho verde really isn't a white wine.

the perception of the CPL as equivalent to FFA or even /b/ is still a valid perception, no matter how wrong it technically is.


It's a valid perception in the sense that somebody who speaks neither czechoslovakian nor polish could confuse the two. That is to say, it's an ignorant and incorrect perception


bolded.

the point isn't to judge who's right/wrong... the point is to solve/prevent the problem. you'll never stop the flood of people the misperceive the CPL... so the only permanent solution is to deflect/contain them.


So, if by this post, I perceive that you are a child molester, I should report you to police and have you arrested, even if it is completely inaccurate?


Well, ideally, it's the police who decide if you are or are not a child molester. Of course, if the police are anything like the moderators here, they'll take your word for it.
 
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Originally posted by Gturtle
Originally posted by Deathblade

Originally posted by Catullus 16


Originally posted by Gturtle



Originally posted by Catullus 16



Originally posted by Gturtle



Of course, considering most outsiders consider CPL to be "/b/-lite" or "FFA-lite" than I can say safely that I don't mind that they hate us, as long as we're allowed to keep on trucking.


well... that's somewhat the effect of being closer to the subject -- you see the granularity in things. kind of like how only a wine snob would insist that a vinho verde really isn't a white wine.

the perception of the CPL as equivalent to FFA or even /b/ is still a valid perception, no matter how wrong it technically is.


It's a valid perception in the sense that somebody who speaks neither czechoslovakian nor polish could confuse the two. That is to say, it's an ignorant and incorrect perception


bolded.

the point isn't to judge who's right/wrong... the point is to solve/prevent the problem. you'll never stop the flood of people the misperceive the CPL... so the only permanent solution is to deflect/contain them.


So, if by this post, I perceive that you are a child molester, I should report you to police and have you arrested, even if it is completely inaccurate?


Well, ideally, it's the police who decide if you are or are not a child molester. Of course, if the police are anything like the moderators here, they'll take your word for it.


WHICH IS WHY WE NEED MODS FIRED
 
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Originally posted by Azure Dreams
WHICH IS WHY WE NEED MODS FIRED


Deathblade imo
 
Procrustes
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Originally posted by Azure Dreams
You didn't ask for that, though, you claimed that the reason was because they disagree with me.
See: Last night.
See: The bans everyone is serving
See: the fact that this forum exists and is sanctioned by pallow/max despite a near-guarantee of support by inactivity for anything a mod does
See: The photos from last night of CPL mid-troll
See: The shit those mods say to people
See: The reasons given for moderatorial actions citing rules that don't exist
See: The fact that these huge problems only arrive when they intervene
See: The fact that everyone knows e-peen self-felatio is not a good moderator pasttime
See: The fact that there is literally no pre-req for becoming a mod except winning the lottery.


what a horrible tangent... thanks a lot.

i wasn't claiming squat. i was rephrasing your argument as you had thus far developed it.

and now that you've developed further, it looks like we're done.
 
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