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Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
More Gerr tears


still obsessed with him are you?

It doesn't matter what you say......you may even be right.....but the obsessive Gerr stalking and trolling just makes you look pathetic.......It may have been funny to start with but after the 50th time it gets a little old and stale
 
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Originally posted by Bevo05
still obsessed with him are you?

It doesn't matter what you say......you may even be right.....but the obsessive Gerr stalking and trolling just makes you look pathetic.......It may have been funny to start with but after the 50th time it gets a little old and stale


Well maybe I will take into consideration what you have to say once I give a shit about what you have to say. Until then buzz off. Tired of Gerr being a cry baby and acting butt hurt every time he loses a game.
 
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Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
Well maybe I will take into consideration what you have to say once I give a shit about what you have to say. Until then buzz off. Tired of Gerr being a cry baby and acting butt hurt every time he loses a game.


Dude, if it bothers you that much then ignore it and dont respond
 
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He's a drama queen, plain and simple. Notice how he would rather try to make me look bad than say GG himself for his own game? In fact, not once in this entire thread did he ever say GG. His only posts were attempts to mock me and jkid2.

And I never blamed any one or any part of the game for this loss, nor did I ever say we should have one. I simply said GG to the Goats, said it was a tough way to lose, self mocked myself by bringing up my team's poor playoff history, and then basically said good luck to the Goats in the championship game. There was no crying, no whining, and nothing but respect for the Goats.

So go try to drum up some drama elsewhere. The Bears & Goats have too much history behind them to be anything but respectful to each other. Something you need to learn!
 
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Originally posted by Gerr
He's a drama queen, plain and simple. Notice how he would rather try to make me look bad than say GG himself for his own game? In fact, not once in this entire thread did he ever say GG. His only posts were attempts to mock me and jkid2.

And I never blamed any one or any part of the game for this loss, nor did I ever say we should have one. I simply said GG to the Goats, said it was a tough way to lose, self mocked myself by bringing up my team's poor playoff history, and then basically said good luck to the Goats in the championship game. There was no crying, no whining, and nothing but respect for the Goats.

So go try to drum up some drama elsewhere. The Bears & Goats have too much history behind them to be anything but respectful to each other. Something you need to learn!


legster is in our forum. I said GG to him there but this isnt about me. Its about how you always have some remark to the other team when you lose. Get a grip Gerr. You arent as good as you think and you are just another guy who cant get it done in the playoffs.
 
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Watched the Bears / Goats game last night.. Bears definitely had a better game plan for Offense and Defense. Even though this sim is more of an offensive Pee Wee sim, DCs hold a ton of power if they change their defenses. This is a good example of an offensive game plan put together for the previous games defenses. It's risky to change Ds, but the opposing OC better have a balanced attack with score based inputs to change things up... It's a tough decision for both...

Also, looking at the stats .. the Bears had 10 drops! Was this bad luck or builds? Looking at their playoff performances it looks to be more of a build issue since they have 26 drops in a 3 game span. It's obvious that the Bears QBs are heavily invested in Pump Fake, but I think this can work against you too. Throwing, Strength, Vision, and Confidence all play a part in the QB's pass quality, and investing a ton of points into Pump Fake lowers the combined pass quality score.. then you factor in hurried passes and tired dots and you have a recipe for low pass quality. Maybe this can be offset by having more sure handed receivers? But then you sacrifice speed/agility and the amount of separation the receivers get from those attributes.....

Proofreading the last paragraph brings me to another thought.. finding the right build formula is part of the fun of this game. That's why I don't publicly share builds like other agents in Pee Wee Gold. I think it's nice to have Pee Wee build guides for the newbies but I don't agree with sharing elite Pee Wee Gold builds publicly. The ole thought, my AI is better but their builds are better means absolutely nothing because you can't have one without the other.

Go Goats and Go Grenadiers!
 
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Originally posted by mccollums
Watched the Bears / Goats game last night.. Bears definitely had a better game plan for Offense and Defense. Even though this sim is more of an offensive Pee Wee sim, DCs hold a ton of power if they change their defenses. This is a good example of an offensive game plan put together for the previous games defenses. It's risky to change Ds, but the opposing OC better have a balanced attack with score based inputs to change things up... It's a tough decision for both...

Also, looking at the stats .. the Bears had 10 drops! Was this bad luck or builds? Looking at their playoff performances it looks to be more of a build issue since they have 26 drops in a 3 game span. It's obvious that the Bears QBs are heavily invested in Pump Fake, but I think this can work against you too. Throwing, Strength, Vision, and Confidence all play a part in the QB's pass quality, and investing a ton of points into Pump Fake lowers the combined pass quality score.. then you factor in hurried passes and tired dots and you have a recipe for low pass quality. Maybe this can be offset by having more sure handed receivers? But then you sacrifice speed/agility and the amount of separation the receivers get from those attributes.....

Proofreading the last paragraph brings me to another thought.. finding the right build formula is part of the fun of this game. That's why I don't publicly share builds like other agents in Pee Wee Gold. I think it's nice to have Pee Wee build guides for the newbies but I don't agree with sharing elite Pee Wee Gold builds publicly. The ole thought, my AI is better but their builds are better means absolutely nothing because you can't have one without the other.

Go Goats and Go Grenadiers!


Good thoughts man - agree with all of it.
 
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Originally posted by mccollums
Watched the Bears / Goats game last night.. Bears definitely had a better game plan for Offense and Defense. Even though this sim is more of an offensive Pee Wee sim, DCs hold a ton of power if they change their defenses. This is a good example of an offensive game plan put together for the previous games defenses. It's risky to change Ds, but the opposing OC better have a balanced attack with score based inputs to change things up... It's a tough decision for both...

Also, looking at the stats .. the Bears had 10 drops! Was this bad luck or builds? Looking at their playoff performances it looks to be more of a build issue since they have 26 drops in a 3 game span. It's obvious that the Bears QBs are heavily invested in Pump Fake, but I think this can work against you too. Throwing, Strength, Vision, and Confidence all play a part in the QB's pass quality, and investing a ton of points into Pump Fake lowers the combined pass quality score.. then you factor in hurried passes and tired dots and you have a recipe for low pass quality. Maybe this can be offset by having more sure handed receivers? But then you sacrifice speed/agility and the amount of separation the receivers get from those attributes.....

Proofreading the last paragraph brings me to another thought.. finding the right build formula is part of the fun of this game. That's why I don't publicly share builds like other agents in Pee Wee Gold. I think it's nice to have Pee Wee build guides for the newbies but I don't agree with sharing elite Pee Wee Gold builds publicly. The ole thought, my AI is better but their builds are better means absolutely nothing because you can't have one without the other.

Go Goats and Go Grenadiers!


Thanks for the info mccollums!

I will be taking back over the offense for the Bears next season since RL issues are preventing Bevo from being able to OC full time. That means multiple changes on offense, including builds. But you did give me something to think about and I will take a close look at builds, especially receiver & TE builds.

Some times the sim likes you, some times it doesn't, just the luck of the draw. In this game, we simply crapped out. It sucks, but that's life.
 
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Originally posted by mccollums
The ole thought, my AI is better but their builds are better means absolutely nothing because you can't have one without the other.


What's interesting is this is not true. Trust me, the season 16-18 Gamecocks were not well built teams but the AIs and packages were top notch.
 
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Originally posted by mccollums
Watched the Bears / Goats game last night.. Bears definitely had a better game plan for Offense and Defense. Even though this sim is more of an offensive Pee Wee sim, DCs hold a ton of power if they change their defenses. This is a good example of an offensive game plan put together for the previous games defenses. It's risky to change Ds, but the opposing OC better have a balanced attack with score based inputs to change things up... It's a tough decision for both...

Also, looking at the stats .. the Bears had 10 drops! Was this bad luck or builds? Looking at their playoff performances it looks to be more of a build issue since they have 26 drops in a 3 game span. It's obvious that the Bears QBs are heavily invested in Pump Fake, but I think this can work against you too. Throwing, Strength, Vision, and Confidence all play a part in the QB's pass quality, and investing a ton of points into Pump Fake lowers the combined pass quality score.. then you factor in hurried passes and tired dots and you have a recipe for low pass quality. Maybe this can be offset by having more sure handed receivers? But then you sacrifice speed/agility and the amount of separation the receivers get from those attributes.....

Proofreading the last paragraph brings me to another thought.. finding the right build formula is part of the fun of this game. That's why I don't publicly share builds like other agents in Pee Wee Gold. I think it's nice to have Pee Wee build guides for the newbies but I don't agree with sharing elite Pee Wee Gold builds publicly. The ole thought, my AI is better but their builds are better means absolutely nothing because you can't have one without the other.

Go Goats and Go Grenadiers!


I would agree with most of that.........but some slight clarifications:
The WR's only had 2 of the drops and way more targets so I don't think it is QB or WR related. But the TE, FB, and HB dropped too many so it may be build related on them. Or may be the types of plays they get called. We struggled with drops from them all season......but I think our biggest issue was the hurries......53 hurries. Some of that is the plays we called. A lot of it is probably the D's build and some of it is O-line build
I have not seen the QB builds but per Chiwanna all he told me was not as much as people seem to think with regards to investment in Pump Fake. Which means it is either 4-6 or 12-14....If he is yanking my chain then it is 12-14 or he is telling the truth and it is 4-6 ish...hard to tell with him sometimes. Though I will say that Pump Fake is not all about the number of points in it IMO
 
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I was including the FBs, TEs, and HBs in my "sure handed receivers" statement.. Energy had to be a major factor too.. 90+ passes is a lot routes .. and they are pretty draining on stamina.

I was also surprised the Goats didn't get any INTs.. usually the Secondary build used gets an INT every 12-15 pass deflections.(end of season build, not over the whole season) ..there were 40+ deflections and no INTs..

Speaking of INTs.. could play a huge role in the championship game today..
Edited by mccollums on Jun 21, 2011 07:03:07
 
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Originally posted by mccollums
I was including the FBs, TEs, and HBs in my "sure handed receivers" statement.. Energy had to be a major factor too.. 90+ passes is a lot routes .. and they are pretty draining on stamina.

I was also surprised the Goats didn't get any INTs.. usually the Secondary build used gets an INT every 12-15 pass deflections.(end of season build, not over the whole season) ..there were 40+ deflections and no INTs..

Speaking of INTs.. could play a huge role in the championship game today..


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Great season for both Maine and Cascade!

Cascade came back to Gold with a vengeance, and did not surprise me by being a powerhouse Gold team once again.

What can you say about Maine other than "Wow". These guys are just too good. I would think 3 in a row should solidify their spot at or near the top of the "Best Ever PW Team" list. Great stuff!
 
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No team has won more than one PWG title and MG has won 3 in a row. As much as it pains me to say it, without a doubt MG is the best PWG of all time.
 
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