Also RK I had one boost CE team last season in PNP loretto and helsinki both were no no
Originally posted by Gerr
I got a response back from my support ticket on the multi-team issue...
They agree with me that no one person should own more than one team in a league and that there are safeguards in place against this in the higher level leagues, but they will look into applying it to Pee-Wee. They made no mention of sharing coaches or how/when they would implement it.
lol Gerr....you really went that much out of your way to contact support about RK having a no/no team that beat you?
I got a response back from my support ticket on the multi-team issue...
They agree with me that no one person should own more than one team in a league and that there are safeguards in place against this in the higher level leagues, but they will look into applying it to Pee-Wee. They made no mention of sharing coaches or how/when they would implement it.
lol Gerr....you really went that much out of your way to contact support about RK having a no/no team that beat you?
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Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
lol Gerr....you really went that much out of your way to contact support about RK having a no/no team that beat you?
I actually dont think his issue was about RK personally as much as it was about the unrealistic coaching environment in the lower leagues. Pee-wee gold seems to be basically 32 teams with 10 coordinators between them.
lol Gerr....you really went that much out of your way to contact support about RK having a no/no team that beat you?
I actually dont think his issue was about RK personally as much as it was about the unrealistic coaching environment in the lower leagues. Pee-wee gold seems to be basically 32 teams with 10 coordinators between them.
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Originally posted by Sabanyt3
I actually dont think his issue was about RK personally as much as it was about the unrealistic coaching environment in the lower leagues. Pee-wee gold seems to be basically 32 teams with 10 coordinators between them.
I actually dont think his issue was about RK personally as much as it was about the unrealistic coaching environment in the lower leagues. Pee-wee gold seems to be basically 32 teams with 10 coordinators between them.
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Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
lol Gerr....you really went that much out of your way to contact support about RK having a no/no team that beat you?
I admit my timing might seem a little suspicious, but I had been intending on placing a support ticket on this issue and once I was out of the playoffs, I suddenly had the time to do so. It was never about getting "revenge" on RK. I have always praised RK and anyone when they beat me and he did so fair and square, so I have no problems with that. It also had nothing to do with that team being no/no, though that did make the loss sting more. It was about one owner having more than one team in the same league.
My problem also isn't with RK, but that GLB allows people to own more than one team in the same league. He was just the first person to do that, but the issue was never about him personally. I probably wouldn't have said anything if his 2nd team was demoted or didn't make the playoffs as that team wouldn't have had a major impact on the league. But because RK is so good this season and both of his teams dominated, that brought the issue to the fore front and sparked my rants and eventual support ticket. RK had the recipe for success this season, but I thought it was unfair that he had two teams using that recipe to dominate. I firmly believe owners should have one chance at a Gold trophy, period!
lol Gerr....you really went that much out of your way to contact support about RK having a no/no team that beat you?
I admit my timing might seem a little suspicious, but I had been intending on placing a support ticket on this issue and once I was out of the playoffs, I suddenly had the time to do so. It was never about getting "revenge" on RK. I have always praised RK and anyone when they beat me and he did so fair and square, so I have no problems with that. It also had nothing to do with that team being no/no, though that did make the loss sting more. It was about one owner having more than one team in the same league.
My problem also isn't with RK, but that GLB allows people to own more than one team in the same league. He was just the first person to do that, but the issue was never about him personally. I probably wouldn't have said anything if his 2nd team was demoted or didn't make the playoffs as that team wouldn't have had a major impact on the league. But because RK is so good this season and both of his teams dominated, that brought the issue to the fore front and sparked my rants and eventual support ticket. RK had the recipe for success this season, but I thought it was unfair that he had two teams using that recipe to dominate. I firmly believe owners should have one chance at a Gold trophy, period!
I could see your point Gerr if he had a fully boosted/CE'd team as well but he didn't. His team was no/no and at a firm disadvantage every game in the playoffs and most regular season games. I really don't see what the issue is when you can have coordinators running multiple teams in the same league anyway.
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I'm probably going to get banned for this, but I'll say it anyways. Gerr, stop being a pussy! Grow a set of balls dude! It's a freaking game. You've been bitching since you got Gold! You wouldn't be complaining if you would have won.
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I have a lot of respect for you Gerr, but I have to agree with No Fear. You dont see anyone else who have lost to them bitching about it.
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I want to clear up some misconceptions with my recent actions as people seem to be reading into things that are not there...
That support ticket was NOT an attempt at revenge for RK beating me. He beat me fair and square with a no-no team, showing that he had the superior team that game. Nothing to bitch about there. He win, I lost, end of story.
I had every intention of submitting a support ticket on this before the end of the season in hopes something would be put in place for S21. Once I was out of the playoffs, I had a lot more available time, so did it then. I did not do it because I lost to him.
I have no ill will against RK and applaud him on how good his teams are this season, both of them. I don't like what GLB is allowing to happen. RK was just the first to take advantage of it and because he is so good this season, the worst case scenario nearly happened, a one owner championship game. I am not mad at RK for what he did, I am mad at GLB for not caring about PW and not applying the same rules to us that they apply to the other leagues.
Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
I really don't see what the issue is when you can have coordinators running multiple teams in the same league anyway.
This is the base of my argument of what shouldn't happen. I believe that at any of the top leagues, including PW Gold, the various Elite leagues, and the WL, teams at this level should not be sharing owners or coaches and each team should be it's own unique entity. There is a rule in place that doesn't allow owners to have multiple teams in other leagues, the first step was to get that same rule applied to PW Gold. Though I don't like teams sharing coaches at the Gold level, I doubt anything will ever be done about that, so I have stopped barking about that.
Originally posted by No Fear
You wouldn't be complaining if you would have won.
Originally posted by Lil DB
You dont see anyone else who have lost to them bitching about it.
My view on gold teams sharing owners and/or coaches has ZERO to do with my loss to RK's TP in the playoffs. I didn't like it a few seasons ago when I first brought it up, I didn't like it last season when Z was coaching several teams, I didn't like it at the start of this season when I first noticed RK's 2nd team, I didn't like it when I beat TP, and I didn't like it when I lost to them in the playoffs. How my team did against TP had nothing to do with my feelings on the subject or my actions.
That support ticket was NOT an attempt at revenge for RK beating me. He beat me fair and square with a no-no team, showing that he had the superior team that game. Nothing to bitch about there. He win, I lost, end of story.
I had every intention of submitting a support ticket on this before the end of the season in hopes something would be put in place for S21. Once I was out of the playoffs, I had a lot more available time, so did it then. I did not do it because I lost to him.
I have no ill will against RK and applaud him on how good his teams are this season, both of them. I don't like what GLB is allowing to happen. RK was just the first to take advantage of it and because he is so good this season, the worst case scenario nearly happened, a one owner championship game. I am not mad at RK for what he did, I am mad at GLB for not caring about PW and not applying the same rules to us that they apply to the other leagues.
Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
I really don't see what the issue is when you can have coordinators running multiple teams in the same league anyway.
This is the base of my argument of what shouldn't happen. I believe that at any of the top leagues, including PW Gold, the various Elite leagues, and the WL, teams at this level should not be sharing owners or coaches and each team should be it's own unique entity. There is a rule in place that doesn't allow owners to have multiple teams in other leagues, the first step was to get that same rule applied to PW Gold. Though I don't like teams sharing coaches at the Gold level, I doubt anything will ever be done about that, so I have stopped barking about that.
Originally posted by No Fear
You wouldn't be complaining if you would have won.
Originally posted by Lil DB
You dont see anyone else who have lost to them bitching about it.
My view on gold teams sharing owners and/or coaches has ZERO to do with my loss to RK's TP in the playoffs. I didn't like it a few seasons ago when I first brought it up, I didn't like it last season when Z was coaching several teams, I didn't like it at the start of this season when I first noticed RK's 2nd team, I didn't like it when I beat TP, and I didn't like it when I lost to them in the playoffs. How my team did against TP had nothing to do with my feelings on the subject or my actions.
Edited by Gerr on Feb 25, 2011 22:45:46
Edited by Gerr on Feb 25, 2011 22:44:53
I don't think RK did this intentionally. He made that team to have fun and test builds for Maine. It ended up being better than he expected and thus he ran with it to see how it would do in Gold.
Lets not forget that you also have another Pee Wee team and when I made a dot for it I don't think you would have had any issues with The Insane Asylum coming to Gold if it made it. I could be wrong here but this was just my interpretation from the forum talk there.
I think you need to relax because there are always going to be ways to give people an advantage in this game. Owners that make all 55 dots for themselves have an advantage over teams that have to recruit. Should we ban owners from owning all of their players too since that's an advantage? No. They are paying customers and they have/earned the right to do that.
You saying it has nothing to do with your loss to his team is absolute tom foolery. I say this because had I been in the playoffs and lost to an obvious inferior team compared to mine I would be pissed too.
Lets not forget that you also have another Pee Wee team and when I made a dot for it I don't think you would have had any issues with The Insane Asylum coming to Gold if it made it. I could be wrong here but this was just my interpretation from the forum talk there.
I think you need to relax because there are always going to be ways to give people an advantage in this game. Owners that make all 55 dots for themselves have an advantage over teams that have to recruit. Should we ban owners from owning all of their players too since that's an advantage? No. They are paying customers and they have/earned the right to do that.
You saying it has nothing to do with your loss to his team is absolute tom foolery. I say this because had I been in the playoffs and lost to an obvious inferior team compared to mine I would be pissed too.
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Come on guys. Give Gerr a break. He does have a valid point, regardless of whether you agree with it. He has gone out of his way to continually try to offer up praise for RK.
I'm beginning to think we need iStoner back so we have an appropriate person to rage on. Ha! No, never mind. But we should give Gerr a break regardless.
I'm beginning to think we need iStoner back so we have an appropriate person to rage on. Ha! No, never mind. But we should give Gerr a break regardless.
Originally posted by 89stepside
Come on guys. Give Gerr a break. He does have a valid point, regardless of whether you agree with it. He has gone out of his way to continually try to offer up praise for RK.
I'm beginning to think we need iStoner back so we have an appropriate person to rage on. Ha! No, never mind. But we should give Gerr a break regardless.
He doesnt have a valid point. I do believe him when he says its nothing personal with RK but complaining about a team that puts itself at a distinct disadvantage is just tom foolery.
Come on guys. Give Gerr a break. He does have a valid point, regardless of whether you agree with it. He has gone out of his way to continually try to offer up praise for RK.
I'm beginning to think we need iStoner back so we have an appropriate person to rage on. Ha! No, never mind. But we should give Gerr a break regardless.
He doesnt have a valid point. I do believe him when he says its nothing personal with RK but complaining about a team that puts itself at a distinct disadvantage is just tom foolery.
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Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
I don't think RK did this intentionally. He made that team to have fun and test builds for Maine. It ended up being better than he expected and thus he ran with it to see how it would do in Gold.
Lets not forget that you also have another Pee Wee team and when I made a dot for it I don't think you would have had any issues with The Insane Asylum coming to Gold if it made it. I could be wrong here but this was just my interpretation from the forum talk there.
I think you need to relax because there are always going to be ways to give people an advantage in this game. Owners that make all 55 dots for themselves have an advantage over teams that have to recruit. Should we ban owners from owning all of their players too since that's an advantage? No. They are paying customers and they have/earned the right to do that.
You saying it has nothing to do with your loss to his team is absolute tom foolery. I say this because had I been in the playoffs and lost to an obvious inferior team compared to mine I would be pissed too.
I don't fault RK for what he did, I fault GLB for allowing it in the first place.
I honestly was conflicted about taking TIA to Gold as it would be hypocritical to take TIA to Gold after all the barking I did. That's part of the reason I offered TIA to Gruppo if it did get to Gold.
Big difference between owning all 55 players on a team and owning more than one team in Gold, but not going to get into that now.
If you really think that I am that petty and submitted that support ticket to spite RK because of my loss to TP, then you don't know me well nor have you grasped my meaning in my carefully worded posts on this subject. Not saying I wasn't mad when I lost, but I never like to loose and that loss felt no different than my other playoff losses. RK is a better owner/coach than I am this season and proved that with that win. Plus what would that ticket do for or against him this season anyway? It was simply to get the ball rolling for next season, pending the admins even agreed with me.
Believe what you want about me, I think most people here understand my point, agree or disagree, and know my posts were not attacks on RK or his teams nor were done because of any loss.
I don't think RK did this intentionally. He made that team to have fun and test builds for Maine. It ended up being better than he expected and thus he ran with it to see how it would do in Gold.
Lets not forget that you also have another Pee Wee team and when I made a dot for it I don't think you would have had any issues with The Insane Asylum coming to Gold if it made it. I could be wrong here but this was just my interpretation from the forum talk there.
I think you need to relax because there are always going to be ways to give people an advantage in this game. Owners that make all 55 dots for themselves have an advantage over teams that have to recruit. Should we ban owners from owning all of their players too since that's an advantage? No. They are paying customers and they have/earned the right to do that.
You saying it has nothing to do with your loss to his team is absolute tom foolery. I say this because had I been in the playoffs and lost to an obvious inferior team compared to mine I would be pissed too.
I don't fault RK for what he did, I fault GLB for allowing it in the first place.
I honestly was conflicted about taking TIA to Gold as it would be hypocritical to take TIA to Gold after all the barking I did. That's part of the reason I offered TIA to Gruppo if it did get to Gold.
Big difference between owning all 55 players on a team and owning more than one team in Gold, but not going to get into that now.
If you really think that I am that petty and submitted that support ticket to spite RK because of my loss to TP, then you don't know me well nor have you grasped my meaning in my carefully worded posts on this subject. Not saying I wasn't mad when I lost, but I never like to loose and that loss felt no different than my other playoff losses. RK is a better owner/coach than I am this season and proved that with that win. Plus what would that ticket do for or against him this season anyway? It was simply to get the ball rolling for next season, pending the admins even agreed with me.
Believe what you want about me, I think most people here understand my point, agree or disagree, and know my posts were not attacks on RK or his teams nor were done because of any loss.
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Originally posted by Gerr
...Though I don't like teams sharing coaches at the Gold level... I didn't like it a few seasons ago when I first brought it up, I didn't like it last season when Z was coaching several teams, I didn't like it at the start of this season when I first noticed RK's 2nd team, I didn't like it when I beat TP, and I didn't like it when I lost to them in the playoffs. ...
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...Though I don't like teams sharing coaches at the Gold level... I didn't like it a few seasons ago when I first brought it up, I didn't like it last season when Z was coaching several teams, I didn't like it at the start of this season when I first noticed RK's 2nd team, I didn't like it when I beat TP, and I didn't like it when I lost to them in the playoffs. ...
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