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Lambda
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Originally posted by mzsleeper02

Are we supposed to find it offensive that you are unable to attract better talent? Because I'm pretty sure the only offensive part of this whole ordeal is your own exploitation of the game and cheating a more deserving team out of the 2nd seed.



we could have gutted our AAA team like you did. they're actually a lower level than your A team, but far, far better. what are you gonna do if you get upset in the first or second round and don't get promoted? i think you'd have a hard time getting USA pro level players to join your A league team, so would that be the end of the road?

and you probably shouldn't insult the recruiting of a team that just kicked your ass.
 
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Originally posted by Lambda
with absolutely no adjustments made to their defensive AI to account for it.


WRONG Lambda, you no idea what you're talking about. many adjustments were made for this game but you only ran 1 play so you dont have enough information to conclude anything beyond changes made to our strong i defense (which there were). study our strong i form and if you actually inform yourself before jumping to a conclusion, you'll see that changes were made. in fact, we would have been far better off had i not touched the script.
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so you changed your AI to make it weaker against the most popular strategy out right now? brilliant gameplanning.
 
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conclusions without information again?

drama queen tbh
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Originally posted by mzsleeper02
Obviously the intelligence in this forum is just slightly above that of a special olympics gathering, so I'll help you guys out:

1) On high level players: Western Europe A #1 -- 25-43 suggested level. And are you seriously bitching about player levels? There are plenty of responses I could give here...I'll give two:

a) players in the forties were made back before any concept of slow building and back when the sim was a completely different beast. I can guarantee you that those "10 levels" don't mean much when many of those points have been absolute wastes. Just looking at the negligible difference between my two C's is laughable. [summary: QQQQQ]

b) Yes Mr. Commissioner. We decided to film their team signals because they are FUCKING CHEATERS and signed a good RB and QB in the offseason. I mean, wtf are we supposed to do to combat that???

2) Using some cheesy ass exploit to win (and make no mistake, that's what it is) is beyond a dickmove. Signing better players isn't an exploit--it's the point of the game. Once you hit adulthood you'll realize this is how the world works: the best companies and teams attract the best talent. Please go bitch to Lockheed Martin and Boeing. On the contrary, running one unstoppable play that has emerged in S8 80+ times is an exploit--especially telling that you guys justify it by the ends you met. Imagine you would go to any means in order to win (and in the meantime cheat another team that deserved the spot you took)...if only we had a name for those kinds of people...

Protip and conclusions: At the beginning of the season, I had one guy on HF--my punter who never levels. But since proaxis and flame are awesome GLB members and the team was fun (a rarity on GLB), I wanted to bring over my players. So when a couple of my AAA teams folded earlier this season, I asked if there was room on HF. The situation you attempt to create, where flame and proaxis sinisterly sneak around behind the scenes, cutting exploitive deals in order to bring in high level players just doesn't exist. They are great owners and gms (and the team is a great group of guys) so I naturally wanted to be a more integral part of the team.

Who knows, maybe if you guys weren't such a bunch of snot-nosed jerks (as evidenced by your choice to exploit the game and the multitude of "LOLOLZ" responses here), you might attract some other talent? And look, a tl;dr. Please cry about it.


For those that don't care to read all of this drivel I will sum it up for you quick like. It starts off with the first half of it being a major contradiction.

Point 1- Higher level players aren't built as well (valid).

Point 2- You can't attract talent like we can (major contradiction- are your higher level players bad? or are they talented? I'm confused).

The best part if you talk about the IQ of everyone being a tad above Special Olympics level and you follow that up with the fail of the century. Nice work.

PS: We have a lot of buds on PF. We hardly recruit at all. We don't have the luxury of bringing in a bunch of higher level players. The best part is even more so than the 'lol ur dum, no wait im dum i don't make centzzz' is the fact that you talk about how lower level players are arguably better, yet you STILL went with the higher level players? That final contradiction is amazing.

YOU HAVE THE ADVANTAGE YOU HAVE LOWER LEVEL WELL BUILT PLAYERS, DUMBITCH.

YET WE STILL DUMPED OUR LOWER LEVEL PLAYERS FOR HIGHER LEVEL PLAYERS WHEN THERE'S CLEARLY NO ADVANTAGE TO IT WHATSOEVER.

Fork.
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diarrhea of the mouth FTW
 
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Originally posted by proaxis
diarrhea of the mouth FTW


Sometimes you gotta type dribble instead of drivel. Don't scout and type, bad combination.
 
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I think there is officially a rivalry between these two teams now.
 
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I still think it's funny to look at our first meeting season 6 : http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=257325

Our roster : still in tact
Their roster : retired player, retired player, retired player, retired player, retired player

If higher levels arent well built, and youre using that as an excuse as to why what you did is legit... then why retire your players that were newer AND the level-equivalent of the league to bring in higher levels?
 
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GL Steal Rain... not an easy 1st round match up, and i hope its as fun to watch as our regular season game...
could go either way.

Cheers and Good Luck.
 
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Originally posted by reneg2
Originally posted by mzsleeper02

Obviously the intelligence in this forum is just slightly above that of a special olympics gathering, so I'll help you guys out:

1) On high level players: Western Europe A #1 -- 25-43 suggested level. And are you seriously bitching about player levels? There are plenty of responses I could give here...I'll give two:

a) players in the forties were made back before any concept of slow building and back when the sim was a completely different beast. I can guarantee you that those "10 levels" don't mean much when many of those points have been absolute wastes. Just looking at the negligible difference between my two C's is laughable. [summary: QQQQQ]

b) Yes Mr. Commissioner. We decided to film their team signals because they are FUCKING CHEATERS and signed a good RB and QB in the offseason. I mean, wtf are we supposed to do to combat that???

2) Using some cheesy ass exploit to win (and make no mistake, that's what it is) is beyond a dickmove. Signing better players isn't an exploit--it's the point of the game. Once you hit adulthood you'll realize this is how the world works: the best companies and teams attract the best talent. Please go bitch to Lockheed Martin and Boeing. On the contrary, running one unstoppable play that has emerged in S8 80+ times is an exploit--especially telling that you guys justify it by the ends you met. Imagine you would go to any means in order to win (and in the meantime cheat another team that deserved the spot you took)...if only we had a name for those kinds of people...

Protip and conclusions: At the beginning of the season, I had one guy on HF--my punter who never levels. But since proaxis and flame are awesome GLB members and the team was fun (a rarity on GLB), I wanted to bring over my players. So when a couple of my AAA teams folded earlier this season, I asked if there was room on HF. The situation you attempt to create, where flame and proaxis sinisterly sneak around behind the scenes, cutting exploitive deals in order to bring in high level players just doesn't exist. They are great owners and gms (and the team is a great group of guys) so I naturally wanted to be a more integral part of the team.

Who knows, maybe if you guys weren't such a bunch of snot-nosed jerks (as evidenced by your choice to exploit the game and the multitude of "LOLOLZ" responses here), you might attract some other talent? And look, a tl;dr. Please cry about it.


For those that don't care to read all of this drivel I will sum it up for you quick like. It starts off with the first half of it being a major contradiction.

Point 1- Higher level players aren't built as well (valid).

Point 2- You can't attract talent like we can (major contradiction- are your higher level players bad? or are they talented? I'm confused).

The best part if you talk about the IQ of everyone being a tad above Special Olympics level and you follow that up with the fail of the century. Nice work.

PS: We have a lot of buds on PF. We hardly recruit at all. We don't have the luxury of bringing in a bunch of higher level players. The best part is even more so than the 'lol ur dum, no wait im dum i don't make centzzz' is the fact that you talk about how lower level players are arguably better, yet you STILL went with the higher level players? That final contradiction is amazing.

YOU HAVE THE ADVANTAGE YOU HAVE LOWER LEVEL WELL BUILT PLAYERS, DUMBITCH.

YET WE STILL DUMPED OUR LOWER LEVEL PLAYERS FOR HIGHER LEVEL PLAYERS WHEN THERE'S CLEARLY NO ADVANTAGE TO IT WHATSOEVER.

Fork.


+1 for reneg2
 
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GL Evil Empire, hope the results turn out different this time
 
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Originally posted by merenoise
I think there is officially a rivalry between these two teams now.


we're 2-0 including a win against their AAA team, not sure how much of a rivalry there is.
 
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Originally posted by Lambda
Originally posted by mzsleeper02


Are we supposed to find it offensive that you are unable to attract better talent? Because I'm pretty sure the only offensive part of this whole ordeal is your own exploitation of the game and cheating a more deserving team out of the 2nd seed.



we could have gutted our AAA team like you did. they're actually a lower level than your A team, but far, far better. what are you gonna do if you get upset in the first or second round and don't get promoted? i think you'd have a hard time getting USA pro level players to join your A league team, so would that be the end of the road?


1) There is no "we" involved in the gutting of teams. It just so happened two of my teams from Season 2 disbanded this season, and I wanted to consolidate my players to teams that didn't suck. On a list of teams that don't suck, HF is high up there. I know it's hard to imagine agents who would actively seek to join your team--maybe mature a bit and see what happens.

2) I already have players in the Pros. People like you may view it as some promised land...it's really not that special to me. I'd rather play on teams with great owners/gms and good teammates. So no, if we don't get promoted, it wouldn't make me throw a Lambda-tantrum.
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and you probably shouldn't insult the recruiting of a team that just kicked your ass.


Yes, you really kicked our ass. It's quite sad that you might actually believe this...

 
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Originally posted by reneg2

For those that don't care to read all of this drivel I will sum it up for you quick like. It starts off with the first half of it being a major contradiction.

Point 1- Higher level players aren't built as well (valid).

Point 2- You can't attract talent like we can (major contradiction- are your higher level players bad? or are they talented? I'm confused).


It may seem like a contradiction to a moron (see also: You), but those two points aren't really connected...they were two distinct arguments, as was made pretty clear in my post. Maybe learn to read?

1) High level players usually mean pretty little due to changes in the game and developments like slowbuilding. It is no EZ button.

2) You complain about levels like little bitches. Guess what...ANYONE can sign players that are whatever level is available in the game. I don't see why your inability to attract higher level players (I never said, "talent like we can") is somehow our fault. What do you think will happen...your team gets promoted to Pro and you remain competitive with your low levels? Or do you plan on using this crutch ad nauseum?

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The best part if you talk about the IQ of everyone being a tad above Special Olympics level and you follow that up with the fail of the century. Nice work.


The best part is that you think it's a fail. Poor you.

Originally posted by

PS: We have a lot of buds on PF. We hardly recruit at all. We don't have the luxury of bringing in a bunch of higher level players. The best part is even more so than the 'lol ur dum, no wait im dum i don't make centzzz' is the fact that you talk about how lower level players are arguably better, yet you STILL went with the higher level players? That final contradiction is amazing.


EARTH TO DIPSHIT:
My two higher level players were never actively recruited...nor was there ever a post on the forum saying "BRING UR HIGHLVLS PLASSSSSSS". Instead, being a member of the team with my terrible punter made me realize I wouldn't mind bringing more of my players over to the team. I wish pro still saved the pms where I asked if the team could use me before I went to the cesspool that is free agency in GLB.

And again, there is no contradiction. I never said you had the advantage. It's obvious your team never had an advantage, outside of exploiting the game. By choosing to exploit, your team collectively decided it's better to cheat and win than to take your beating like a man. It's ok--there's nothing inherently wrong with being gutless cowards (actually, there is; learn to treat your loldots with honor). And if your last drive hadn't eaten up the final 10 minutes of the game, no doubt we would have marched down the field and this whole story would have been how pathetic of a tactic it was in addition to it failing.
 
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