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Or how about the Other Brady in Cleveland? Anderson goes down with a season-ending injury in preseason, then Brady Quinn steps in and throws for 45 TD's. They then trade Anderson in the offseason...

It is all about the Brady's...

Originally posted by sf49r09
Originally posted by lc512

Lt
Peterson
Jackson
Westbrook
Portis

portis ? you watch football lately ?

I am a Cowboys fan... so I hate the skins, but from a fantasy perspective you gotta give Portis props. He played every game last year and quietly had a good season while everyone was fawning over AP.

he put up 1262 yds 11 td's and 47 catches for 389 yards. Pretty respectable considering where he was going in drafts last season. Also he has 3 seasons of 1500+ yards and 1 season with just under 1400...and hes nly had 1 season decimated by unjury.

AP had 1341 yds and 1 more TD. Also 289 rec yds on 28 less catches. AP is definitely better, but CP had a "down" year compared to his previous years, and he was right up there with the top backs in the league.

To me FF is about drafting value. CP might not be a sexy pick but where hes going in drafts ill take a shot at him once the big dawgs are gone.

Also, look at Portis's rookie numbers. I believe they are better than Peterson's...

(note: this means nothing for FF purposes, but is interesting nonetheless)

Originally posted by Yourdad
Originally posted by sf49r09

Originally posted by lc512


Lt
Peterson
Jackson
Westbrook
Portis

portis ? you watch football lately ?

I am a Cowboys fan... so I hate the skins, but from a fantasy perspective you gotta give Portis props. He played every game last year and quietly had a good season while everyone was fawning over AP.

he put up 1262 yds 11 td's and 47 catches for 389 yards. Pretty respectable considering where he was going in drafts last season. Also he has 3 seasons of 1500+ yards and 1 season with just under 1400...and hes nly had 1 season decimated by unjury.

AP had 1341 yds and 1 more TD. Also 289 rec yds on 28 less catches. AP is definitely better, but CP had a "down" year compared to his previous years, and he was right up there with the top backs in the league.

To me FF is about drafting value. CP might not be a sexy pick but where hes going in drafts ill take a shot at him once the big dawgs are gone.





Portis isn't top 5....but seeing that I hold the #9 pick in one my my drafts (in like 2 weeks), I'm sure as hell hoping he falls to #9.

I'm thinking these guys are locks for going before 9:

1. LT
2. Peterson
3. Jackson
4. Westbrook
5. Addai
6. Tom Brady
7. Randy Moss

If one of them falls I'll probably have to grab them at 9 (though I would have a lot of trouble taking a receiver first round), but if they're all gone it means I either get a shot at Marion Barber, Larry Johnson, or Clinton Portis. I'm hoping for Portis...

Whoever drafts a QB in the top five slash top ten is an sf49r09.

In other words...

A DUMB SHIT.

That's all.

Originally posted by sawedust
Whoever drafts a QB in the top five slash top ten is an sf49r09.

In other words...

A DUMB SHIT.

That's all.



you obviously know nothing about the actual game of football

Originally posted by sf49r09
Originally posted by sawedust

Whoever drafts a QB in the top five slash top ten is an sf49r09.

In other words...

A DUMB SHIT.

That's all.



you obviously know nothing about the actual game of football

But this isn't about the actual game, it's about fantasy. And, unless you are in a start 2QB league, there is no excuse for drafting a QB with your first round pick. I'd rather have MJD than Brady.

Depends on the type of league you're in as well. In one of my leagues you get 1 point per completion so QB's get close to 100 points per week. Good QB's anyway!

Originally posted by pratt1130
Depends on the type of league you're in as well. In one of my leagues you get 1 point per completion so QB's get close to 100 points per week. Good QB's anyway!

It also depends on how many people you have in your league... I help run a 16 man league and we play one qb and 2 rb's but you have to get a qb because their won't be a starting qb on the waiver wire to go pick up. I generally subscribe to the RB first mentality when it comes to FF but with RB's being so weak this year I'd definately take Brady, Manning, and Moss in the top ten before i went took a gamble on a RB i think wouldn't get all the carries, etc.

Points/league structure make a lot of difference. I don't understand the whole theory behind having QBs score a 100-freaking-points in a single game, but whatever makes you happy. I, personally, have my league in default scoring for both PPR and non-PPR leagues, set for 10-man in each of them.

To summarize...

8-man league, 10-man league, if you pick up a QB in the first round you're a dipshit like sf49r09 over there.

Who would you rather have?

Joseph Addai and Tony Romo?

Or Tom Brady and Michael Turner?

Now in a 12-man or more league, that's a little different. All the good QBs may be gone by the team it comes back around to you (Brady, Manning, Manning, Romo, Palmer, Brees, Anderson, Roethlisberger etc.) so you may be inclined to pick up a QB that early.

Or hold out hopes you can snag a Garrard, or a Favre, or a Garcia, or a Leinart/Warner later on in the draft.

I'm all for drafting a QB early, as long it provides me with the best value for that pick. Value-based drafting is where it's at. A lot of people look down on it, thinking RB-RB is the best formula, but if you know your spots, the ADP of the players, and spots where you could grab an equal or slightly lesser player later in the draft in order to pick a stronger player now (in this case, sacrifice a Brady in the first for a Palmer or Brees in the third, while picking up an Addai/MB3 for one and two) you could still end up with a very stacked roster.

Of course, if Brady/Manning is still there in the second round (doubt it) then you may want to grab him, if that's what you want.

Even yet, I wouldn't take either of them. Best value will most likely be a RB, maybe even a WR.

But if you want to be like Evergay, then take Brady with the fifth or Manning with the seventh (in a normal, non-retarded league).

And I'm sure your $200 buy-in will be appreciated by everyone else in your league.

I won't be taking a QB or WR in the first round, but I'm expecting someone in my 12 team league will be stupid enough to. If they all go RB for picks 1-8...it's gunna be a tough decision, because we'll be at a whole new tier of RB's by then.

Let's see, top 9 RB's:

LT
Jackson
Peterson
Westbrook
Frank Gore
Portis
Addai
Larry Johnson

I guess I'm at least guaranteed one of those 9 if I stick to my guns with the RB, but I think someone will be foolish and grab Brady at the 6th or 7th pick. If I thought he'd repeat last year I would too, but there's no way. That was a one time miracle season and those drafting Brady at pick 5 or 6 thinking he'll put up 50 TD's and 5,000 yards will be sad come season's end.
Marion Barber

The league that I played in, the QB's got a point per completion and a point for every 10 yards, plus 10 for TD's. They accounted for a lot of points, whereas the RB got a point for every carry, a point for every 10 yards, and 10 for TD's. They're both equally important FF positions, but there just don't seem to be that many great QB's that can consistently put up good numbers. I think there are plenty of RB's to choose from even if you wait til second round. We also were able to franchise a player though, so the shitbag that got Brady has him every season.

Originally posted by HSKRCHMPS
The league that I played in, the QB's got a point per completion and a point for every 10 yards, plus 10 for TD's. They accounted for a lot of points, whereas the RB got a point for every carry, a point for every 10 yards, and 10 for TD's. They're both equally important FF positions, but there just don't seem to be that many great QB's that can consistently put up good numbers. I think there are plenty of RB's to choose from even if you wait til second round. We also were able to franchise a player though, so the shitbag that got Brady has him every season.

That scoring system for QB's is crazy. I agree, if those were my settings I'd take Brady or Manning round 1 easily...

Originally posted by HSKRCHMPS
The league that I played in, the QB's got a point per completion and a point for every 10 yards, plus 10 for TD's. They accounted for a lot of points, whereas the RB got a point for every carry, a point for every 10 yards, and 10 for TD's. They're both equally important FF positions, but there just don't seem to be that many great QB's that can consistently put up good numbers. I think there are plenty of RB's to choose from even if you wait til second round. We also were able to franchise a player though, so the shitbag that got Brady has him every season.

The thing about it that you have to take into consideration is most leagues you only start 1 QB. If that is the case I would rather stack up on RB's and you can still snag a jake plummer in the 4th or 5th round since teams only need 1 solid QB. Also you have to look at injuries, every year top tier RB's get injured where you rarely see a QB get injured, so its very important to have the RB position stacked up in case anyone falls. I would much rather have 2 solid running backs and a mediocre QB then 1 good RB 1 good QB and a shit 2nd RB. Then again if your in a bush league where QB's score 100 points a week I guess it would make sense to take a QB early but I dont play in those shit leagues.

Also, unless the planets align Brady isnt going to match his numbers again this season. Thers an entire year of film of the Pats offense now, and D coordinators have a better feel. I know that they will still be dominant, but not THAT dominant. Also, I dont think Brady is gonna be #1 fantasy QB this year.

Basically Ill be getting a 2nd tier QB instead of him...while still getting my 2 RB or RB/WR.

If i was in a point per completion league I would grab Drew Brees. That bastard almost broke the record for least yards per completion in a game last year... it came down to the last play where he got a 20 yrd pass. And NO does alot of dink and dunk passing and screens.