Trudgy Macslow thanks all of his fans for the votes. To be honored as the best CB in the west is an amazing honor.
The turtle will try to return to the Pro Bowl next year!
The turtle will try to return to the Pro Bowl next year!
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Originally posted by 4th Quarter
If you didnt campaign for your player by PM'ing other teams to state your case, then you dont get to bitch about him not being included.
Lesson learned. Season 4 is right around the corner.
This is funny because 4th quarter is the guy who's ballot had 11 of his own players on it. Nobody else had more than 7. That some good campaigning.
If you didnt campaign for your player by PM'ing other teams to state your case, then you dont get to bitch about him not being included.
Lesson learned. Season 4 is right around the corner.
This is funny because 4th quarter is the guy who's ballot had 11 of his own players on it. Nobody else had more than 7. That some good campaigning.
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Ts-Rock,
Is it any more ridiculous to think that we have 11 probowlers instead of 7? Either number is certainly beyond reality. Some of my votes were cast for Clavenhouse clan guys because I couldnt find anyone that I thought was worthy, so I just gave my friends a courtesy vote. To be honest, I put together our ballot in a big rush, because I forgot until what I thought was the last minute.
And besides, there are really only 2 possible circumstances.
1) My guy is in the running....if he's good enough to be in the running, then of course I'm going to vote for the guy that's on my team.
2) My guy is not in the running....if he's not in the running, then it wont hurt anyone for me to throw him a vote as a sign of appreciation for his committment to the team.
Are either of those circumstances worth criticizing me in the open forum? I dont think so. Also, as the only person with access to all the ballots, it's not really appropriate for you to be casting judgement so publicly.
Is it any more ridiculous to think that we have 11 probowlers instead of 7? Either number is certainly beyond reality. Some of my votes were cast for Clavenhouse clan guys because I couldnt find anyone that I thought was worthy, so I just gave my friends a courtesy vote. To be honest, I put together our ballot in a big rush, because I forgot until what I thought was the last minute.
And besides, there are really only 2 possible circumstances.
1) My guy is in the running....if he's good enough to be in the running, then of course I'm going to vote for the guy that's on my team.
2) My guy is not in the running....if he's not in the running, then it wont hurt anyone for me to throw him a vote as a sign of appreciation for his committment to the team.
Are either of those circumstances worth criticizing me in the open forum? I dont think so. Also, as the only person with access to all the ballots, it's not really appropriate for you to be casting judgement so publicly.
Last edited Aug 1, 2008 00:15:09
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Originally posted by 4th Quarter
Ts-Rock,
Is it any more ridiculous to think that we have 11 probowlers instead of 7? Either number is certainly beyond reality. Some of my votes were cast for Clavenhouse clan guys because I couldnt find anyone that I thought was worthy, so I just gave my friends a courtesy vote. To be honest, I put together our ballot in a big rush, because I forgot until what I thought was the last minute.
And besides, there are really only 2 possible circumstances.
1) My guy is in the running....if he's good enough to be in the running, then of course I'm going to vote for the guy that's on my team.
2) My guy is not in the running....if he's not in the running, then it wont hurt anyone for me to throw him a vote as a sign of appreciation for his committment to the team.
Are either of those circumstances worth criticizing me in the open forum? I dont think so. Also, as the only person with access to all the ballots, it's not really appropriate for you to be casting judgement so publicly.
so what your saying is you only voted for players from your team and clanvenhouse?
Ts-Rock,
Is it any more ridiculous to think that we have 11 probowlers instead of 7? Either number is certainly beyond reality. Some of my votes were cast for Clavenhouse clan guys because I couldnt find anyone that I thought was worthy, so I just gave my friends a courtesy vote. To be honest, I put together our ballot in a big rush, because I forgot until what I thought was the last minute.
And besides, there are really only 2 possible circumstances.
1) My guy is in the running....if he's good enough to be in the running, then of course I'm going to vote for the guy that's on my team.
2) My guy is not in the running....if he's not in the running, then it wont hurt anyone for me to throw him a vote as a sign of appreciation for his committment to the team.
Are either of those circumstances worth criticizing me in the open forum? I dont think so. Also, as the only person with access to all the ballots, it's not really appropriate for you to be casting judgement so publicly.
so what your saying is you only voted for players from your team and clanvenhouse?
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Originally posted by rlranger
Originally posted by 4th Quarter
Ts-Rock,
Is it any more ridiculous to think that we have 11 probowlers instead of 7? Either number is certainly beyond reality. Some of my votes were cast for Clavenhouse clan guys because I couldnt find anyone that I thought was worthy, so I just gave my friends a courtesy vote. To be honest, I put together our ballot in a big rush, because I forgot until what I thought was the last minute.
And besides, there are really only 2 possible circumstances.
1) My guy is in the running....if he's good enough to be in the running, then of course I'm going to vote for the guy that's on my team.
2) My guy is not in the running....if he's not in the running, then it wont hurt anyone for me to throw him a vote as a sign of appreciation for his committment to the team.
Are either of those circumstances worth criticizing me in the open forum? I dont think so. Also, as the only person with access to all the ballots, it's not really appropriate for you to be casting judgement so publicly.
so what your saying is you only voted for players from your team and clanvenhouse?
My team is clavenhouse. Let me explain things for the record.
1) If a player on my team (clavenhouse) was good enough to be in the top 5, then you're goddamn right I voted for him.
2) When I couldnt really tell who was worthy of a vote, I just voted for the guy on my team as a sign of appreciation even though I knew they wouldnt get enough votes to win.
But I didnt piss away votes on my guys just for the fun of it. I did it when I couldnt determine who was the best because the stats available for us to look at really dont tell the whole story.....and I'm not going to vote just on level, which I'm sure many did.
Originally posted by 4th Quarter
Ts-Rock,
Is it any more ridiculous to think that we have 11 probowlers instead of 7? Either number is certainly beyond reality. Some of my votes were cast for Clavenhouse clan guys because I couldnt find anyone that I thought was worthy, so I just gave my friends a courtesy vote. To be honest, I put together our ballot in a big rush, because I forgot until what I thought was the last minute.
And besides, there are really only 2 possible circumstances.
1) My guy is in the running....if he's good enough to be in the running, then of course I'm going to vote for the guy that's on my team.
2) My guy is not in the running....if he's not in the running, then it wont hurt anyone for me to throw him a vote as a sign of appreciation for his committment to the team.
Are either of those circumstances worth criticizing me in the open forum? I dont think so. Also, as the only person with access to all the ballots, it's not really appropriate for you to be casting judgement so publicly.
so what your saying is you only voted for players from your team and clanvenhouse?
My team is clavenhouse. Let me explain things for the record.
1) If a player on my team (clavenhouse) was good enough to be in the top 5, then you're goddamn right I voted for him.
2) When I couldnt really tell who was worthy of a vote, I just voted for the guy on my team as a sign of appreciation even though I knew they wouldnt get enough votes to win.
But I didnt piss away votes on my guys just for the fun of it. I did it when I couldnt determine who was the best because the stats available for us to look at really dont tell the whole story.....and I'm not going to vote just on level, which I'm sure many did.
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Originally posted by 4th Quarter
Originally posted by rlranger
Originally posted by 4th Quarter
Ts-Rock,
Is it any more ridiculous to think that we have 11 probowlers instead of 7? Either number is certainly beyond reality. Some of my votes were cast for Clavenhouse clan guys because I couldnt find anyone that I thought was worthy, so I just gave my friends a courtesy vote. To be honest, I put together our ballot in a big rush, because I forgot until what I thought was the last minute.
And besides, there are really only 2 possible circumstances.
1) My guy is in the running....if he's good enough to be in the running, then of course I'm going to vote for the guy that's on my team.
2) My guy is not in the running....if he's not in the running, then it wont hurt anyone for me to throw him a vote as a sign of appreciation for his committment to the team.
Are either of those circumstances worth criticizing me in the open forum? I dont think so. Also, as the only person with access to all the ballots, it's not really appropriate for you to be casting judgement so publicly.
so what your saying is you only voted for players from your team and clanvenhouse?
My team is clavenhouse. Let me explain things for the record.
1) If a player on my team (clavenhouse) was good enough to be in the top 5, then you're goddamn right I voted for him.
2) When I couldnt really tell who was worthy of a vote, I just voted for the guy on my team as a sign of appreciation even though I knew they wouldnt get enough votes to win.
But I didnt piss away votes on my guys just for the fun of it. I did it when I couldnt determine who was the best because the stats available for us to look at really dont tell the whole story.....and I'm not going to vote just on level, which I'm sure many did.
ok if that worked for you so be it
Originally posted by rlranger
Originally posted by 4th Quarter
Ts-Rock,
Is it any more ridiculous to think that we have 11 probowlers instead of 7? Either number is certainly beyond reality. Some of my votes were cast for Clavenhouse clan guys because I couldnt find anyone that I thought was worthy, so I just gave my friends a courtesy vote. To be honest, I put together our ballot in a big rush, because I forgot until what I thought was the last minute.
And besides, there are really only 2 possible circumstances.
1) My guy is in the running....if he's good enough to be in the running, then of course I'm going to vote for the guy that's on my team.
2) My guy is not in the running....if he's not in the running, then it wont hurt anyone for me to throw him a vote as a sign of appreciation for his committment to the team.
Are either of those circumstances worth criticizing me in the open forum? I dont think so. Also, as the only person with access to all the ballots, it's not really appropriate for you to be casting judgement so publicly.
so what your saying is you only voted for players from your team and clanvenhouse?
My team is clavenhouse. Let me explain things for the record.
1) If a player on my team (clavenhouse) was good enough to be in the top 5, then you're goddamn right I voted for him.
2) When I couldnt really tell who was worthy of a vote, I just voted for the guy on my team as a sign of appreciation even though I knew they wouldnt get enough votes to win.
But I didnt piss away votes on my guys just for the fun of it. I did it when I couldnt determine who was the best because the stats available for us to look at really dont tell the whole story.....and I'm not going to vote just on level, which I'm sure many did.
ok if that worked for you so be it
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Originally posted by 4th Quarter
Originally posted by rlranger
Originally posted by 4th Quarter
Ts-Rock,
Is it any more ridiculous to think that we have 11 probowlers instead of 7? Either number is certainly beyond reality. Some of my votes were cast for Clavenhouse clan guys because I couldnt find anyone that I thought was worthy, so I just gave my friends a courtesy vote. To be honest, I put together our ballot in a big rush, because I forgot until what I thought was the last minute.
And besides, there are really only 2 possible circumstances.
1) My guy is in the running....if he's good enough to be in the running, then of course I'm going to vote for the guy that's on my team.
2) My guy is not in the running....if he's not in the running, then it wont hurt anyone for me to throw him a vote as a sign of appreciation for his committment to the team.
Are either of those circumstances worth criticizing me in the open forum? I dont think so. Also, as the only person with access to all the ballots, it's not really appropriate for you to be casting judgement so publicly.
so what your saying is you only voted for players from your team and clanvenhouse?
2) When I didn't feel like taking the time to check stats, I just voted for the guy on my team as a sign of appreciation even though I knew they wouldnt get enough votes to win.
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Originally posted by rlranger
Originally posted by 4th Quarter
Ts-Rock,
Is it any more ridiculous to think that we have 11 probowlers instead of 7? Either number is certainly beyond reality. Some of my votes were cast for Clavenhouse clan guys because I couldnt find anyone that I thought was worthy, so I just gave my friends a courtesy vote. To be honest, I put together our ballot in a big rush, because I forgot until what I thought was the last minute.
And besides, there are really only 2 possible circumstances.
1) My guy is in the running....if he's good enough to be in the running, then of course I'm going to vote for the guy that's on my team.
2) My guy is not in the running....if he's not in the running, then it wont hurt anyone for me to throw him a vote as a sign of appreciation for his committment to the team.
Are either of those circumstances worth criticizing me in the open forum? I dont think so. Also, as the only person with access to all the ballots, it's not really appropriate for you to be casting judgement so publicly.
so what your saying is you only voted for players from your team and clanvenhouse?
2) When I didn't feel like taking the time to check stats, I just voted for the guy on my team as a sign of appreciation even though I knew they wouldnt get enough votes to win.
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It's funny how serious everyone is taking this when only 6 teams per conference voted. Plus the guy who is calling people out was the same guy who didn't have enough time to keep the multiple promises he made to compile the numbers and post the results, now all of a sudden he's Johnny-On-The-Spot with ballots, and of course he's calling out the guy who offered to help him.
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J's got my back as usual.
If you guys are all so terribly offended that I voted for 11 of my own players, perhaps you should consider that TWENTY TEAMS DIDNT EVEN SUBMIT A BALLOT. As long as I'm in the top third of the league for participation in these events, I'm not about to feel bad.
If you guys are all so terribly offended that I voted for 11 of my own players, perhaps you should consider that TWENTY TEAMS DIDNT EVEN SUBMIT A BALLOT. As long as I'm in the top third of the league for participation in these events, I'm not about to feel bad.
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4th quarter might have rigged the ballots anyway, putting 11 of your guys on a ballot is pretty ridiculous. You were better off not submitting like the other 20 teams.
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Originally posted by dan rules
4th quarter might have rigged the ballots anyway, putting 11 of your guys on a ballot is pretty ridiculous. You were better off not submitting like the other 20 teams.
Thanks for joining in on the dog pile.
Riddle me this, Batman... If I swayed the votes so substantially, then how did I only get three probowlers on my team?
If this is such a horrendous atrocity, and the results are complete bullocks, then show me one Clavenhouse player that doesnt belong on that list.
Is it Samuel Colt, who led the entire league in Pancakes?
Was it Osidawale, who led the league in Forced Fumbles and made the leader board in tackles and hurries?
Was is GoodHands WithAlstott, who led the league in TDs?
instead of throwing out random baseless criticisms, how bout we debate the merits of the players that were nominated?
4th quarter might have rigged the ballots anyway, putting 11 of your guys on a ballot is pretty ridiculous. You were better off not submitting like the other 20 teams.
Thanks for joining in on the dog pile.
Riddle me this, Batman... If I swayed the votes so substantially, then how did I only get three probowlers on my team?
If this is such a horrendous atrocity, and the results are complete bullocks, then show me one Clavenhouse player that doesnt belong on that list.
Is it Samuel Colt, who led the entire league in Pancakes?
Was it Osidawale, who led the league in Forced Fumbles and made the leader board in tackles and hurries?
Was is GoodHands WithAlstott, who led the league in TDs?
instead of throwing out random baseless criticisms, how bout we debate the merits of the players that were nominated?
Last edited Aug 1, 2008 13:58:38
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Now we're questioning people's integrity. Wow. Even better, we are questioning the integrity of the guy who as worst showed too much loyalty to his team, not the guy who lied multiple times in public forums and then dishonorable called out the only person who offered to help him. Makes sense.
How many people did you vote for on your team dan? I would be pretty upset if I had a good year playing for your team and you voted for someone else in the league for the Pro Bowl.
How many people did you vote for on your team dan? I would be pretty upset if I had a good year playing for your team and you voted for someone else in the league for the Pro Bowl.
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Originally posted by 4th Quarter
Originally posted by dan rules
4th quarter might have rigged the ballots anyway, putting 11 of your guys on a ballot is pretty ridiculous. You were better off not submitting like the other 20 teams.
Thanks for joining in on the dog pile.
Riddle me this, Batman... If I swayed the votes so substantially, then how did I only get three probowlers on my team?
If this is such a horrendous atrocity, and the results are complete bullocks, then show me one Clavenhouse player that doesnt belong on that list.
Is it Samuel Colt, who led the entire league in Pancakes?
Was it Osidawale, who led the league in Forced Fumbles and made the leader board in tackles and hurries?
Was is GoodHands WithAlstott, who led the league in TDs?
instead of throwing out random baseless criticisms, how bout we debate the merits of the players that were nominated?
So, now you're saying only 3 of them deserved to make the team? Pretty cool that you voted for 11, then. Let's see some reasons for why the other 8 deserved it. Also, if I remember, your team wasn't even that good last year. It would be different if it was like the KC rams or vikings GM that submitted a ballot with 11 guys. Did you guys even make the playoffs?
Originally posted by dan rules
4th quarter might have rigged the ballots anyway, putting 11 of your guys on a ballot is pretty ridiculous. You were better off not submitting like the other 20 teams.
Thanks for joining in on the dog pile.
Riddle me this, Batman... If I swayed the votes so substantially, then how did I only get three probowlers on my team?
If this is such a horrendous atrocity, and the results are complete bullocks, then show me one Clavenhouse player that doesnt belong on that list.
Is it Samuel Colt, who led the entire league in Pancakes?
Was it Osidawale, who led the league in Forced Fumbles and made the leader board in tackles and hurries?
Was is GoodHands WithAlstott, who led the league in TDs?
instead of throwing out random baseless criticisms, how bout we debate the merits of the players that were nominated?
So, now you're saying only 3 of them deserved to make the team? Pretty cool that you voted for 11, then. Let's see some reasons for why the other 8 deserved it. Also, if I remember, your team wasn't even that good last year. It would be different if it was like the KC rams or vikings GM that submitted a ballot with 11 guys. Did you guys even make the playoffs?
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Originally posted by dan rules
Originally posted by 4th Quarter
Originally posted by dan rules
4th quarter might have rigged the ballots anyway, putting 11 of your guys on a ballot is pretty ridiculous. You were better off not submitting like the other 20 teams.
Thanks for joining in on the dog pile.
Riddle me this, Batman... If I swayed the votes so substantially, then how did I only get three probowlers on my team?
If this is such a horrendous atrocity, and the results are complete bullocks, then show me one Clavenhouse player that doesnt belong on that list.
Is it Samuel Colt, who led the entire league in Pancakes?
Was it Osidawale, who led the league in Forced Fumbles and made the leader board in tackles and hurries?
Was is GoodHands WithAlstott, who led the league in TDs?
instead of throwing out random baseless criticisms, how bout we debate the merits of the players that were nominated?
So, now you're saying only 3 of them deserved to make the team? Pretty cool that you voted for 11, then. Let's see some reasons for why the other 8 deserved it. Also, if I remember, your team wasn't even that good last year. It would be different if it was like the KC rams or vikings GM that submitted a ballot with 11 guys. Did you guys even make the playoffs?
I didnt say only 3 deserved it. I said only 3 made it. Essentially...my ballot didnt skew the results, so why are you fucking crying about this?
Originally posted by 4th Quarter
Originally posted by dan rules
4th quarter might have rigged the ballots anyway, putting 11 of your guys on a ballot is pretty ridiculous. You were better off not submitting like the other 20 teams.
Thanks for joining in on the dog pile.
Riddle me this, Batman... If I swayed the votes so substantially, then how did I only get three probowlers on my team?
If this is such a horrendous atrocity, and the results are complete bullocks, then show me one Clavenhouse player that doesnt belong on that list.
Is it Samuel Colt, who led the entire league in Pancakes?
Was it Osidawale, who led the league in Forced Fumbles and made the leader board in tackles and hurries?
Was is GoodHands WithAlstott, who led the league in TDs?
instead of throwing out random baseless criticisms, how bout we debate the merits of the players that were nominated?
So, now you're saying only 3 of them deserved to make the team? Pretty cool that you voted for 11, then. Let's see some reasons for why the other 8 deserved it. Also, if I remember, your team wasn't even that good last year. It would be different if it was like the KC rams or vikings GM that submitted a ballot with 11 guys. Did you guys even make the playoffs?
I didnt say only 3 deserved it. I said only 3 made it. Essentially...my ballot didnt skew the results, so why are you fucking crying about this?
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