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I dont if his build was public or not though because he was on my team. It couldve just been shown to teammates. It was public at the time of the draft though (pre-season)

Originally posted by 4chanCitizen

The thing that makes Big I sexy is that plebs/CPU go "Oh no a run!" and then you get an ez pass off. So I can kinda get that one. Especially if a team that mostly runs starts doing it out of the blue.

Don't get any ideas Kvothe.

I actually think this is what he needs to balance his all run attack. If I 100% know you are going to run I can always stop it..if I have to guess its a different matter.

Originally posted by 4chanCitizen
I always found TE Drive overhyped. It's not as good as the other "TE Spam" plays imo

Just for that I'm calling TE Drive vs. Assisted Living I'm doing it mid-way through the 3rd QTR and it's going to score on you...just letting you know in advance try and stop it....

Actually in all seriousness I'm just saying we have a host of those plays.

Originally posted by william78
Just for that I'm calling TE Drive vs. Assisted Living I'm doing it mid-way through the 3rd QTR.
It can be good for baiting out a C2 TE cover and lasering it to WR3 admittedly. If I had done that to Scranton I probably would've taken a W tbh. But for you're typical "Hum de dum" let's spam TEs and win kinda deal it's not as OP as the others. I run it too though so I'm kinda a hypocrite lol
Originally posted by william78
JActually in all seriousness I'm just saying we have a host of those plays.
Yeah I noticed. You have a troublesome way of sneaking QB Rollouts into every single formation, and I don't like it

Originally posted by 4chanCitizen

I run it too though so I'm kinda a hypocrite lol


Some plays you would be foolish not to run especially in rookie

Originally posted by 4chanCitizen

Yeah I noticed. You have a troublesome way of sneaking QB Rollouts into every single formation, and I don't like it lol


That's because I'm a man of high morale integrity dispite being one of the Cons in the Dilema - I just want to keep you honest every so often

Originally posted by Kvothe27
Thank you for explaining and that sucks that was your experience of Americans. As an American I've never met anyone like that, though I'm familiar with the stereotypes and I imagine I would resent leftists too if that was my impression of them. The ones you met are basically trolls and in my experience being a Democrat is not synonymous with being a pussy, though if 4chan is a Democrat that would be one exception. As for the fake accusations, there is no proof either way but my gut feeling is to believe you, even without 4chan vouching for you. Hopefully OrigJoker can verify that it's possible, to the best of his memory, that the build was public and that you were not in fact even on Luke's team.

IN GLB2 I met some fine Americans ( and I developed some friendships here). And I enjoy every second of it. No matter who they vote for. I want to be accused of things I did.
I got no way to get Luke build other that it being public.

Originally posted by Ghanima
Luke was public player and nr 1 of the draft ? And I was not on lukes team so I could not leak it against any1? Just wow? Is it forbidden to debate public builds ?

If the build was public then why didn't you simply post a link to it?

You took the time to type out every important stat and number instead?

The build was definitely public at the draft but this was either his Soph or Journeyman season. I know because he wasn't maxed out in speed and awareness yet. I'm guessing by then he would have closed the build, he wasn't new to the game.

I don't know anything about Ghanima other than that I see him on the forums and that he posted the build. I won't ever be associated with one of his teams because of it. I also don't/won't discuss politics publicly other than to say that politicians and lawyers are the lowest forms of life in America.

Here is a copy of the messages sent between me and Nucleus...I had to dig them up.

Again, I don't accuse without facts.



---------- Original message ----------
From: Team Nucleus
Date: Jul 18, 2019 17:56:12
Subject: RE: Hey...
To: OrigJoker

I found out how he seen it the slithery scumbag, he was a friend on here and the build was open to friends team owner and coaches, fixed now but its to late since the build is finished already. Little do they know the next Elusive Back I build will be an upgraded version of this one. I found a few skills that could be changed for and even better version of Luke




---------- Original message ----------
From: OrigJoker
Date: Jul 18, 2019 08:51:22
Subject: RE: Hey...
To: Team Nucleus

Originally posted by Ghanima
77 quickness 98 speed 85 balance 40 footwork carrying awarness 100 grip 45 elusive 77 20 heart 50 snap gold 1st step surge and juke

He definitely saw it somehow. He is the DC for Dallas but unless he has a 2nd account I don't see that he has any players on Hamilton.




---------- Original message ----------
From: Team Nucleus
Date: Jul 18, 2019 04:57:32
Subject: RE: Hey...
To: OrigJoker

build is closed tho not sure he seen anything unless there's a glitch or hes a coach on our team but thanks




---------- Original message ----------
From: OrigJoker
Date: Jul 17, 2019 08:46:05
Subject: Hey...
To: Team Nucleus

Since I have players on multiple teams I normally don't share information or anything like that so that people won't think I am trying to help one team more etc...

Having said that, I have a player on the Cowboys and before our game they were super confident going against Hamilton....Now they are griping about "That shifty little mother fucker they have at HB..."

It's pretty funny. Close up your build also, Ghanima told them your entire build on their forum.
on their forum.

But I'm a "Democrat" and lying. I was incorrect about it not being a final build....Looks like it was late in the Vet season.

Oh damn this is heating up! OrigJoker bringing the heat! dramatic music intensifies

Here's the thing, you just proved Ghanima's point Orig.

Originally posted by OrigJoker
he was a friend on here and the build was open to friends team owner and coaches

The build was literally open. It's not like he snuck onto the team as a coach, the build was open. The entire point of an open build is that other people can see it. It would be one thing if he made another account or something, but that's not what happened.

This honestly just seems like a major fuck up on Team Nucleus's part. He either by accident or willingly let his entire friends list (including the other team's coaches) see his build. That is 100% not on Ghanima.

If you're a coach of a team, actively working against it is wrong. I think we can all agree on that. If you're the coach of the other team though and it's literally your job to make the other team lose then you have every right to use someone's open build.

So final 2cents from 4Chan is that guy fucked up. You could honestly argue that the sketchier move would be you telling the other team what they had been planning, because while people who had nothing to do with either of these teams could see the open build, you would have to be affiliated with a team to know their plans.

I don't think anyone is really in the wrong here. I barely know Orig but he obviously has a very strong sense of morality, which heavily implies he's a good guy. On the other hand I do know Ghanima, and he's pretty dang nice. Seems like a misunderstanding to me.

Any chance you guys can just put it behind you?

This is when I really wish we could use gifs

4chan - So then you are OK with your friends sharing all your builds with other teams?

He knew it wasn't open because if it was he could have simply posted a link like everyone does. I am friends with rob and saw all his builds for his 2nd AA team, I didn't go around showing them to everyone or talking about them on the forums.

If I was an active coach and "friends" with someone I would send them a message and ask them to close their builds. I wasn't even friends with Nucleus at the time and I did that anyway.

Originally posted by OrigJoker
4chan - So then you are OK with your friends sharing all your builds with other teams?
My friends can't see my builds though. I mean, I'm friends with half the game at this point. I thought everyone only left their builds open to their coaches!
Originally posted by OrigJoker
If I was an active coach and "friends" with someone I would send them a message and ask them to close their builds.
I did this for Agerm once, I was really worried that he had some open builds on his team. I figured it was a mistake or something. He just told me he did it on purpose.

I guess it comes down to how many friends people have and the reasons they leave their builds open to begin with. For a guy like me with a ton of friends leaving it open to friends would be the same as just leaving the build open for everyone. Like for example Assisted Living is about to play Team Beta run by PH33P, someone I'm friends with. I can hardly beat him as it is, why would I give him the advantage of seeing my builds?

I build players for other players. Pretty much every other player that I have asked if they mind sharing their build with me has obliged. There are a lot of factors that go into winning in this game aside from 1 player's build. Actually, in my experience, for what it is worth, if you are looking at a player's build to gain an advantage mid-season then you are already behind the curve.

Originally posted by agerm73
I build players for other players. Pretty much every other player that I have asked if they mind sharing their build with me has obliged. There are a lot of factors that go into winning in this game aside from 1 player's build. Actually, in my experience, for what it is worth, if you are looking at a player's build to gain an advantage mid-season then you are already behind the curve.

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