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Originally posted by TyDavis315
Again, I think defense (at least man) just isn’t that great. The investments vs what I’m getting out of most of them (at the price I’m getting them) doesn’t add up to me. Now i will say I haven’t tried super high consistency, but i just cant find the points to do that you know?



I feel you a little on that TyDavis but don't you feel the difficulty is what makes it more fun to improve and learn about it? Sure it's hard but it's not exactly impossible either. A lot of people have gotten really good at it. It just makes me want to get better at it tbh.

I don't want to add fuel to the flame here but your team has 10 superstars and negative cap, that doesn't seem logical and fair!!


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Originally posted by TyDavis315
Again, I think defense (at least man) just isn’t that great. The investments vs what I’m getting out of most of them (at the price I’m getting them) doesn’t add up to me. Now i will say I haven’t tried super high consistency, but i just cant find the points to do that you know?
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Man is fine and is better than zone, it is much more consistent. Zone takes to Pro before it can really shine... zone is plagued with giving up chunks of yards and a weakness to inside rushing until late tiers.

Consistency prob should be ok at about 50... Since you keep complaining about things most of us think are fine, I'm leaning you're either struggling with builds or some of your play calling having been out of the game for awhile and just coming back. I'm willing to help you if you want to share builds or what not. I'm good with wanting to see you do better and be more competitive.

Originally posted by Otega
I don't want to add fuel to the flame here but your team has 10 superstars and negative cap, that doesn't seem logical and fair!!


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I started at 3, that’s pure recruiting you see. Scouting talent I think could fit and then convincing them to join me. That used to be common on here (hence the recruiter position) but now, as you may see, it is not.

Myrik I actually find the game much easier now. Rookie to pro was a breeze, and I enjoyed my playoff matchups every season. I’ve never been much interested in Vet since that’s generally where the clique coaching groups reside. I’m trying to get into it, but I have my gripes. .

Originally posted by 4chanCitizen
I feel you a little on that TyDavis but don't you feel the difficulty is what makes it more fun to improve and learn about it? Sure it's hard but it's not exactly impossible either. A lot of people have gotten really good at it. It just makes me want to get better at it tbh.

As someone who hopped onto GLB2 from the beginning theres 2 reasons why people left.

A) they were better at or more invested in the original

B) the reigning top dogs mostly determine what happens in the game. It became a championship flexing match, and when they started to team up things just got worse.

I honestly feel like the current user base isn’t all that interested in growing the game, especially when helping defense isn’t that much of a tall order. You can literally score immediately as the game starts. You don’t win by having the better defense, you win if the offense isn’t in its groove. that’s pretty lopsided to me.

Now i will say that some users are pretty lazy, but many do try and understand. Learning defense is not easy, especially compared to how easy it is to run an offense if you build build big/CIT guys. Just doesn’t seem logical to me

But the best defense does win. The best offenses run the same type stuff. Defense is where you get your edge.

FYI not all of us have multis and not everyone who has a coaching roll actually do anything. My coaches are there for moral support because I like them, or as an award for contributing to the team by building players. Most teams are like that.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
But the best defense does win. The best offenses run the same type stuff. Defense is where you get your edge.

Yeah, I mean "offense is too easy" and "defense doesn't matter" are inherently conflicted opinions.

Offense being more potent means that defense is even more important. There's no nonsense about offense "finding it's groove", every team at every level scores every play if defense isn't on the field. Defense is what stops offense from getting in that groove.

Originally posted by TyDavis315
As someone who hopped onto GLB2 from the beginning theres 2 reasons why people left.

A) they were better at or more invested in the original

B) the reigning top dogs mostly determine what happens in the game. It became a championship flexing match, and when they started to team up things just got worse.

I honestly feel like the current user base isn’t all that interested in growing the game, especially when helping defense isn’t that much of a tall order. You can literally score immediately as the game starts. You don’t win by having the better defense, you win if the offense isn’t in its groove. that’s pretty lopsided to me.

Now i will say that some users are pretty lazy, but many do try and understand. Learning defense is not easy, especially compared to how easy it is to run an offense if you build build big/CIT guys. Just doesn’t seem logical to me


What's your specific issues with defense though? I'm just not getting that from your posts. To me, defense has the edge these days where as offense had it in the past. Elite RBs used to have 10+ ypc, and Passing was really good before it got nerfed due to people whining about the 2 or 3 all-pass teams around.

Even now people bring up things like PA which as Osiris said, isn't all that hard to defend. Too many cookie cutter builds out there, where people expect the same results as others. Gotta mix it up.

Your defense for example, has 4 S+ players on defense....none at CB. Your man coverage would be much better with at least one. Looking at Quentin High who's build is open......he only has 79 Deflection, 82 man awareness. I have sophmore DBs with more than that. You can't stop elite receivers with non-elite key skills.

I will agree with you on one BIG thing. We used to have guides and far more teaching going on in the forums. Sadly threads get locked after none use, so it's hard to bump some for newbies. There's tons of valuable information hidden, and that makes the learning curve hard for people just joining.

Originally posted by BoDiddley
only has 79 Deflection, 82 man awareness. I have sophmore DBs with more than that. You can't stop elite receivers with non-elite key skills.

You guys are out here with CBs at maxed out Deflection? My lord I need to get with the program. Also are the old player builds/guides still relevant today? I always take them with a grain of salt due to how old they are. Typically I resort to just harassing the good players until they tell me things.

Originally posted by 4chanCitizen
You guys are out here with CBs at maxed out Deflection? My lord I need to get with the program. Also are the old player builds/guides still relevant today? I always take them with a grain of salt due to how old they are. Typically I resort to just harassing the good players until they tell me things.

Deflection is the #1 Pass coverage skill, imo. Dream has two with that in key defensive slots. I mean, people bump up things like footwork and quickness to keep their DB all over the receiver...but forget that they still need to disrupt the pass. lol

Though for zone coverage, I could see favoring speed. And yeh most guides are still good. Would be easy to upgrade/ammend them if we could bump those old threads

Originally posted by BoDiddley
Deflection is the #1 Pass coverage skill, imo. Dream has two with that in key defensive slots. I mean, people bump up things like footwork and quickness to keep their DB all over the receiver...but forget that they still need to disrupt the pass. lol

Though for zone coverage, I could see favoring speed. And yeh most guides are still good. Would be easy to upgrade/ammend them if we could bump those old threads

I used to run my Man CB's with 85 deflect and gold On An Island to get 100 when it fires.

As far as zone, you have to balance Speed, Foot, Quick, and Awr to make the CB work well... he has to get to his spot using Foot, make a read, then have speed/quick to go after the ball/player

Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar
I used to run my Man CB's with 85 deflect and gold On An Island to get 100 when it fires.

As far as zone, you have to balance Speed, Foot, Quick, and Awr to make the CB work well... he has to get to his spot using Foot, make an read, then have speed/quick to go after the ball/defender

OAI is definitely my favorite defensive SA too, wish all worked as well. 85 Deflect isn't bad, but I just have always found 90+ to really be more effective. Toughest part is getting consistency high on CB builds, since I think that's extremely important too. But that's the fun of building I suppose, you can't have it all.

Totally agree on athletic zone builds, it's no wonder your defense is so dominant. I tried a skill based zone last run and it didn't work at all by the time I got to Vet.

Originally posted by Otega
I don't want to add fuel to the flame here but your team has 10 superstars and negative cap, that doesn't seem logical and fair!!


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Honest question here- maybe Corndog can explain - how does a team get to play through the season with $-207,500 cap space? https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/roster/3988

Originally posted by ShadyMcCoy

Honest question here- maybe Corndog can explain - how does a team get to play through the season with $-207,500 cap space? https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/roster/3988

That happened to my team one season. I wasn’t even aware of it because the last time I checked we were under the cap and I rarely visit my roster page. I’m still not sure how it happened.

Originally posted by ShadyMcCoy

Honest question here- maybe Corndog can explain - how does a team get to play through the season with $-207,500 cap space? https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/roster/3988

Because of rounding issues?

It's .1% over the cap, seems silly to get panties in a bunch over.