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Lemoncow
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Originally posted by vipermaw82
15 picks isnt bad


Right, his stats are good, good enough to rank as the 8th overall CB this season. Looking at his build though, I can't understand how he was so effective.
 
Lemoncow
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The reason I bring this up is because there seems to be something fundamentally wrong with either coverage or passing. I can't pinpoint what the exact problem is, but I'm apparently alone in this so I'll slowly back away into this bush, Homer Simpson style.
Edited by Lemoncow on Aug 27, 2018 06:30:50
Edited by Lemoncow on Aug 27, 2018 06:30:14
 
_OSIRIS_
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Originally posted by Lemoncow
I hate to be a dick. But the fact that this CB was ranked 8th in the HoF this season makes me question everything.

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/274940


75 Int? Plus he is slow so he would be between the QB and target in the passing lane rather than be on the target's hip. Kind of how zone can yield high ints. Not a great build but HoF favors turnovers.
 
vipermaw82
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Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
75 Int? Plus he is slow so he would be between the QB and target in the passing lane rather than be on the target's hip. Kind of how zone can yield high ints. Not a great build but HoF favors turnovers.


yip, which is why my cbs never have crazy speed, ball skills can reign supreme until you run the 4 wr unders and dont have over the top help... then really bad things happen on good throws.
 
dlcurt
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Hope they post changes before season starts.... kinda holding out on builds
 
ShadyMcCoy
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Are there any changes to the sim this season??!
 
Xars
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Originally posted by Corndog
So your examples are one where the QB gets sacked 11 times, and turns the ball over multiple times, and one where the QB with literally zero investment in Heart has a bad game and still ends up throwing the ball over 60 times?

I mean, Xars has said the "theme" of the team is absolutely no investment in Heart. Let's not use bad games from an entirely "boom or bust" team as some kind if baseline example.


Originally posted by Xars
Well when I or someone else can figure out which stats/actions are truly effected by Morale, then I’d invest potentially a lot in Heart.

But right now it seems like a crap shoot.



So after back-to-back 6 INT games against Nebraska, we'll see what difference Heart makes versus of course the Opportunity Cost of investing those SP somewhere else.

Here's what I'm talking about: https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/577149/2083117 LogZilla is down 28-14 in the 4th Qtr but is about to score and make it a 28-21 game. Only 2 of my 11 players are below 50 Morale.

Here's the 6th INT play: https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/577149/2083209 None of my players are below 50 Morale and every defender on Nebraska is below 50 Morale.

What would more Heart have done?

versus

More Pass Awareness, More Pass Consistency or More Pass Accuracy, etc.

Cdog, here's to 4 Vet seasons of me raging or praising you.
Edited by Xars on Aug 28, 2018 09:37:50
Edited by Xars on Aug 28, 2018 09:36:59
Edited by Xars on Aug 28, 2018 09:36:48
 
vipermaw82
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I vote you dont change your build at all so leave sp out of qb... I like the way hes playing
 
Sov.
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Originally posted by Xars


Here's the 6th INT play: https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/577149/2083209 None of my players are below 50 Morale and every defender on Nebraska is below 50 Morale.



looks like throwing into double coverage on a good defensive playcall tagged as "pass" to counter your standard gameplan

i dont think either of those 6 INT games are player build or QB build related as much as offensive gameplan related
 
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Originally posted by Xars
So after back-to-back 6 INT games against Nebraska, we'll see what difference Heart makes versus of course the Opportunity Cost of investing those SP somewhere else.

Here's what I'm talking about: https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/577149/2083117 LogZilla is down 28-14 in the 4th Qtr but is about to score and make it a 28-21 game. Only 2 of my 11 players are below 50 Morale.

Here's the 6th INT play: https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/577149/2083209 None of my players are below 50 Morale and every defender on Nebraska is below 50 Morale.

What would more Heart have done?

versus

More Pass Awareness, More Pass Consistency or More Pass Accuracy, etc.

Cdog, here's to 4 Vet seasons of me raging or praising you.


battles vs our qbs could be interesting next season.

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/285488
Edited by bhall43 on Aug 28, 2018 11:25:39
 
eviltcat
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Double coverage? He's pretty open. Durnik and the HB as a checkdown are also decent options for throws. Seems like the pass is just way off target, which is sorta what I was saying in my initial post about the overtuned turnovers possibly being a QB thing.

I feel like 80 accuracy shouldn't really be throwing 4 ints to the same player. Or rather, in previous seasons it didn't seem to be the case. If it was one game, maybe, but it happened a decent amount this season to a bunch of teams. Maybe I'm way off, just what it has looked like.
 
Xars
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Originally posted by Sov.
looks like throwing into double coverage on a good defensive playcall tagged as "pass" to counter your standard gameplan

i dont think either of those 6 INT games are player build or QB build related as much as offensive gameplan related


100% agree that play calling is a huge issue which is why I don’t understand why Heart seems to matter so much from Corndog’s view... but he’s the programmer

TE Flag is a fine call against Lurk as Durnik only has single coverage and he is the primary target. The checkdown to a single covered target results in a pick. Anything can happen when RNG is involved and to me it just seems to be a RNG case rather than play calling or build issue.

Which is why I just don’t understand why Heart is so important.

Edited by Xars on Aug 28, 2018 12:33:07
Edited by Xars on Aug 28, 2018 12:32:34
 
BoDiddley
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Originally posted by eviltcat
Double coverage? He's pretty open. Durnik and the HB as a checkdown are also decent options for throws. Seems like the pass is just way off target, which is sorta what I was saying in my initial post about the overtuned turnovers possibly being a QB thing.

I feel like 80 accuracy shouldn't really be throwing 4 ints to the same player. Or rather, in previous seasons it didn't seem to be the case. If it was one game, maybe, but it happened a decent amount this season to a bunch of teams. Maybe I'm way off, just what it has looked like.


Even at 99 accuracy it still happens. I agree that SP investment in skills like accuracy should be rewarded, but it is what it is.
 
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Which is why I just don’t understand why Heart is so important.



My defense destroys weak hearted QBs.
Edited by Galactic Empire on Aug 28, 2018 14:10:30
 
Xars
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Originally posted by Galactic Empire
My defense destroys weak hearted QBs.


You'll do nothing and like it.

Belgarath ate you alive and now Polgara is going to do the same.

TRIPS.
Edited by Xars on Aug 28, 2018 14:55:23
 
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