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moghedan
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""If you would have entered these forums before reaching critical mass from your paranoid delusions, you would have found numerous veteran agents eager to help in any way they could help you learn this game.""

Xars and DeeVee hardly count as "Numerous".



mcSpud... You are wrong about the specifics and that doesn't help your case, but yes, we know, and it is a well worn path of complaint going back years. As you were told, don't bother. The honest answer is that the people you hope you are calling out are like 80-90% of the game's total income and catering to them so they keep spending is keeping the game online. There simply is no "other people" that are going to suddenly start spending to replace them... the game is past that now.


Your options are to quit, to deal with it, or stick to the D-Leagues.
 
_OSIRIS_
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Originally posted by moghedan
""If you would have entered these forums before reaching critical mass from your paranoid delusions, you would have found numerous veteran agents eager to help in any way they could help you learn this game.""

Xars and DeeVee hardly count as "Numerous".



mcSpud... You are wrong about the specifics and that doesn't help your case, but yes, we know, and it is a well worn path of complaint going back years. As you were told, don't bother. The honest answer is that the people you hope you are calling out are like 80-90% of the game's total income and catering to them so they keep spending is keeping the game online. There simply is no "other people" that are going to suddenly start spending to replace them... the game is past that now.


Your options are to quit, to deal with it, or stick to the D-Leagues.


So what exactly are vets doing to oppress you?

Another option is to learn to play this game and put some effort into it. Poor them, their opponents are trying to win games and they are not. Their opponents went through the learning process and are better then them right now. Instead of complaining they need to do their jobs as owners and learn to play the damn game. I spend hours on most games just for a slight chance to win. Nothing is stopping them other than themselves.

I personally help any new guy that wants it. I let them use my tactics, advise them on builds, and anything else they need other than playing the game for them. If you were actually on a human noob team there would be a good chance I would be there helping. There are plenty of others that do the same so go to your corner and cry.

You are in a D-League because you have a QB a very low need position.

Give us some examples of anything. Anything cheating or unethical. You have nothing. Absolutely nothing.

I came in as a noob and my goal was not to have a team but to have the team. Anything other than gold trophies were unacceptable. I went through a lot of growing pains and worked aggressively to get better. Teams that beat us by 50 dropped to 30, then 20, then single digits, and then we were winning games against them. Now I am suppose to apologize?



 
Lemoncow
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I think Osirus and TDiddy have been in cahoots for a long time now. Have yet to see the banhammer thrown at either one of them...

Seriously though, specifically how do people think cheating is being done? And to whose benefit?? I don't see any shell teams racking up losses or conceding Championships.

I PM'd three different owners, they all gave me advice or sent me a copy of their builds. It helped me make a somewhat successful star HB. Our team has been pretty competitive and I know for a 100% fact we don't cheat. People thinking there's a cheating problem is as much of a problem as actual cheating. Hopefully someone can address this. *Cough* corndog *cough*
 
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Originally posted by Lemoncow


I PM'd three different owners, they all gave me advice or sent me a copy of their builds. It helped me make a somewhat successful star HB. Our team has been pretty competitive and I know for a 100% fact we don't cheat. People thinking there's a cheating problem is as much of a problem as actual cheating. Hopefully someone can address this. *Cough* corndog *cough*


That reminds me, I have also sent out tons of invites to Whoville's recruiting forum. Sharing all of our builds and how to put a team together. Invite sent.

 
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Well, I guess I accept the consensus view that I mouthed off and made myself look pretty dumb.

I like the game, but just lack thee depth of understanding that comes from study and experience. I misunderstood why coaches were working for tons of teams. I'm sorry that I jumped to the wrong conclusion.

I'm going to keep playing, and when enough seasons pass, maybe I'll live it down and I can ask for a few tips. Till then, I apologize for the mess.
 
_OSIRIS_
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Originally posted by mcspud
Well, I guess I accept the consensus view that I mouthed off and made myself look pretty dumb.

I like the game, but just lack thee depth of understanding that comes from study and experience. I misunderstood why coaches were working for tons of teams. I'm sorry that I jumped to the wrong conclusion.

I'm going to keep playing, and when enough seasons pass, maybe I'll live it down and I can ask for a few tips. Till then, I apologize for the mess.


You can always ask for tips. Guys are eager to answer questions in the FAQ's, Player Guides and Game Help forum, private messages, or chat. I sent you an invite to my team's private forum used for recruiting. It is full of builds and build discussion.
 
Achelon
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Just don't ask me, I only give a fuck enough to keep teams at .500, yeah I have 3 Championships, but that was other users winning it for me.
 
bhall43
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I would just like to apologize to all the veteran agents about colluding with all of you to give free wins this season. Deep apologies I will be on the up and up next season.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
I would just like to apologize to all the veteran agents about colluding with all of you to give free wins this season. Deep apologies I will be on the up and up next season.


Cheating bastard
 
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Originally posted by mcspud
Well, I guess I accept the consensus view that I mouthed off and made myself look pretty dumb.

I like the game, but just lack thee depth of understanding that comes from study and experience. I misunderstood why coaches were working for tons of teams. I'm sorry that I jumped to the wrong conclusion.

I'm going to keep playing, and when enough seasons pass, maybe I'll live it down and I can ask for a few tips. Till then, I apologize for the mess.


Honestly you didnt do anything bad enough for this group to exclude you.Feel free to ask anything you want to know in forums or if youd rather PM me, Id be happy to share any knowledge I have that would help you along. Maybe I shouldnt have been such a dick in response, but the notion of fixing games in this dead game was just ludicrous to me.
 
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Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
You can always ask for tips. Guys are eager to answer questions in the FAQ's, Player Guides and Game Help forum, private messages, or chat. I sent you an invite to my team's private forum used for recruiting. It is full of builds and build discussion.


Id like to see the defensive build discussions....

Originally posted by mcspud
Well, I guess I accept the consensus view that I mouthed off and made myself look pretty dumb.

I like the game, but just lack thee depth of understanding that comes from study and experience. I misunderstood why coaches were working for tons of teams. I'm sorry that I jumped to the wrong conclusion.

I'm going to keep playing, and when enough seasons pass, maybe I'll live it down and I can ask for a few tips. Till then, I apologize for the mess.


Your good man. everyone here wants new guys to join and play, and almost everyone here is willing to help you be successful.
 
moghedan
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Osirius, I've been here longer than you.


As I told him, he was wrong on the specifics. However, if you are arguing that the the game does not cater to the whims of a selected few...
 
agerm73
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There is a handful of coaches that are dominant, yes. But they have earned it. They have played a lot. They have studied a lot they have networked a lot. They deserve it. In order to be dominant in this game you need well built players, a well built team, well designed game plans for both sides of the ball and a little luck. These selected few that we speak of have all of those in spades.
I wish that the devs would hand build leagues so new and less experienced coaches would have a more enjoyable experience. Maybe then the population would start growing again, if it is not already to late.
 
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Originally posted by moghedan
Osirius, I've been here longer than you.


As I told him, he was wrong on the specifics. However, if you are arguing that the the game does not cater to the whims of a selected few...


I wasn't aware we had new trolls around here..... They probably do cater to those players who actually spend money, build playerS, buy teams, and actually play the game. But hey maybe you think the devs should pay out of pocket for you to build free players that rarely progress beyond rookie.
 
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Originally posted by moghedan
Osirius, I've been here longer than you.


Are you sure about that?

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_OSIRIS_
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