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Originally posted by TyDavis315
I have determined that you guys don't care about the overall flow of this game. You all only think of what will help you score mkre points, completely disregarding the fact that defense in this game is barely holding on (based on inconsistencies throughout a season due to the plus of having specialized offenses and a shitload of S* players that result in better offensive players that shit on defenses).


You all are the type of people to change the sliders in madden so your team can have 42 by half

"i have determined", "you all", who the fuck are you? lul

too much estrogen on these forums now a days

Originally posted by Sov.
too much estrogen on these forums now a days

You are all losers

Inside rushing is like sodomy without a lubricant, or so I've been told...

A great example of defender retardation on outside runs. I was just wondering how hard our FS was going to hit the HB in the backfield. Then he just completely stops and lets him jog by.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/455704/198597

Originally posted by DeeVee8
Inside rushing is like sodomy without a lubricant, or so I've been told...

I will show you "inside rushing"! Lol

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
A great example of defender retardation on outside runs. I was just wondering how hard our FS was going to hit the HB in the backfield. Then he just completely stops and lets him jog by.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/455704/198597

Gotta be a build issue. Destro would never do that.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_

I'd be fine with the season 24 numbers if the outside run/pass numbers were not so lofty in proportion. They nurfed something that wasn't very OP to begin with. No reason for anyone to make inside run/clock control offensive teams now.

It's like taking a baseball outfielder away and adding another infielder. No one would want high% base hitters everyone would go for sluggers. Why run inside for 3 yards on first down when you use to get 4.5 yards? Now you have to go for the home run and if it fails you can just throw to a receiver with 2-3 guys hanging all over him and he will make the play more often then not. Outside runs should be high risk high reward, but the risk is not really there.




Inside rushing isn't nerfed though. Averages on some plays are down, but then again teams don't defend 2WR the same as they used to either. Less TD breakaways mean a lower overall ypc, but doesn't mean RBs aren't able to get consistently good yards running up the middle.

My question though is why some think outside rushing should be nerfed. If defenses have slow safeties or CBs who invested nothing into tackling, or BRB, then that's their own fault. For the most part, this has always been a coaching issue.

Originally posted by BoDiddley

My question though is why some think outside rushing should be nerfed. If defenses have slow safeties or CBs who invested nothing into tackling, or BRB, then that's their own fault. For the most part, this has always been a coaching issue.

The defender pathing is bugged, so some plays are really bad against outside runs for no reason, this is the "nerf" we want, and a pro football team just can't use outside run as its main weapon, if they do they would get crushed, outside run is immensely overused in GLB, its really risky.

I'm all for better pathing on both sides of the ball, but that's still not going to solve coaching issues. If teams don't adjust to an opponent and think they can throw the same gameplan in every week...they'll get lit up on some plays.

Are outside runs overused, perhaps. But then again the broken tackle rate for powerbacks is WAY beyond what you see in the NFL also. Ezekial Eliiot led the NFL in rushing with 1600+ yards on 5.1 ypc. Both outside/inside rushing would have to take quite a few hits to knock it down that far. And every team would just become all-pass.

Inside running is naught ded...

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/456218/195547

Fix ur builds ya twats.

Originally posted by BoDiddley
Inside rushing isn't nerfed though. Averages on some plays are down, but then again teams don't defend 2WR the same as they used to either. Less TD breakaways mean a lower overall ypc, but doesn't mean RBs aren't able to get consistently good yards running up the middle.

My question though is why some think outside rushing should be nerfed. If defenses have slow safeties or CBs who invested nothing into tackling, or BRB, then that's their own fault. For the most part, this has always been a coaching issue.

Yeah they are pretty much are using the same plays as they did 10 seasons ago, many are using more outside run stop plays because they know they don't have to account for inside runs. You have some stupid attitude like I don't scout and use the same exact game plan every game. I was the top scouter last season which means I spent a hell of a lot of time scouting and game planning. If I say my offense just isn't what it use to be and what it was built to be I think I know what I'm talking about. You think we have slow safeties and weak CBs and LBs? Really? We had the #1 defense in Vet last season and our guys were still completely retarded on outside runs. They can't break blocks but they can sure find them. Plays like the one I posted need some attention. The pathing is pretty damn bugged.

Vape had one of the best defenses for several seasons, specially against the run, we had very few problems on run defense, almost every game we lost was on passing, and we had the MVP HB last season, there were barely any games that the oponnent HB rushed for + 5YPC, and when they did it was probably due one long run that hapennend cause the defender pathing is retarded, or because the defender shed the block 5 times and kept getting stuck on a blocker.

Like OSIRIS, i'm not complaining cause i'm suffering from rushing attack, on the contrary, i'm complaining cause i know its unbalanced, "fix ur builds" doesn't apply. Like someone observed, we literally didn't cared at all for inside defense for 2 seasons, i just used plays that were good against outside run and decent against pass, and there were games that teams tried to spam inside runs, didn't worked out very well for them.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
Yeah they are pretty much are using the same plays as they did 10 seasons ago, many are using more outside run stop plays because they know they don't have to account for inside runs. You have some stupid attitude like I don't scout and use the same exact game plan every game. I was the top scouter last season which means I spent a hell of a lot of time scouting and game planning. If I say my offense just isn't what it use to be and what it was built to be I think I know what I'm talking about. You think we have slow safeties and weak CBs and LBs? Really? We had the #1 defense in Vet last season and our guys were still completely retarded on outside runs. They can't break blocks but they can sure find them. Plays like the one I posted need some attention. The pathing is pretty damn bugged.


Really wasn't specifically talking about you when I pointed out how many don't change their gameplans, was talking generally about what a good number of teams do. Also was correlating that to why ypc averages is high on outside runs. In games against top teams, you don't usually see outside rushing putting up crazy numbers. Look at Jeter for example last season against good squads, he's mostly in the 5-8 ypc range. Against bad teams he's putting up 12+ ypc. Hell, Vape held him to 3.5 & 4.3 ypc in back to back ladder games.

Can't say people are using the same plays in 2WR either. Dream used to use that formation heavily on offense, but had to adjust as teams started mixing it up do to the rise of screens. I mostly stopped rushing inside on 2WR seasons ago because I would scout the offense and see that formation lagging behind the others. Plays like ZEB(very susceptible to inside rushing) and other blitzes used to be mostly what I saw form opposing 2WR defenses, but not anymore.

Completely agree about pathing, but then again blocking pathing is pretty weak also. Defensively, play selection is probably the biggest issue. Zones need to defend the pass better, and we need more hybrid play that mix man/zone.

Originally posted by BoDiddley


Completely agree about pathing, but then again blocking pathing is pretty weak also. Defensively, play selection is probably the biggest issue. Zones need to defend the pass better, and we need more hybrid play that mix man/zone.

That is true, blocking pathing is very bad sometimes, and zone should be better against pass definetly. They need to fix passing, as i said sometime, i think the biggest problem with zone defense is that the QB can pass whenever he wants, there is no real route for the WR, they have eyes behind their heads, unlike real football, but if they fix this they have to fix blitzing, 100 sprinting LBs would destroy passing if the QB couldn't pass earlier.