Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Absolut Zero
They can't get head faked, at least they're not supposed to, it says in the tool tip that head fake only effects defenders in Man Coverage.

Supposedly..........http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5243193?page=1#49181217

Originally posted by Absolut Zero
They can't get head faked, at least they're not supposed to, it says in the tool tip that head fake only effects defenders in Man Coverage.

Well head fake fires against my guys. Not sure if it works.

To me it isn't unreasonable to have zone awareness higher costing. Man coverage plays often have zones in it. The same can't be said for zone plays having man in them. So to my thinking is if you can use zones in man coverage plays, it better cost you a few extra SP.

This as well as the other people pointing out stuff like coverage tech. Guys in zone probably don't need as many points in other physical things at least early.

Just to make things clear : Zone Awareness is less expensive than Man Awareness for every position except CB.

Originally posted by TxSteve
I don't see where you've ever even built a cornerback.

Just wondering - where do your zone opinions come from cuiv? (genuine question) Did you run a team that ran zone?

I evaluate builds and recruit for Whoville, who, in my opinion, is run by one of the best DCs in the game. He calls the plays, but he trusts me completely to pick players for him to use.

I don't call plays because I don't have nearly enough time, but I watch my players and see how their builds effect their play.

You might not think that means anything, but before last season, Whoville was known as an inconsistent team. We lost that reputation last season. The difference last season was I completely rebuilt the roster for Osiris and let him do his thing with better quality players.

EDIT: I also built one of the best coverage LBs in Vet btw. Regular dot that really put a lid on S* TE Hacksaw in the Hydrogen semi final last season and was one of the reasons Madison won.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
No they dont...

Yes, man defenders absolutely need more cov tech than zone defenders.


Originally posted by Galactic Empire
To deflect or int the ball.

You realise there are these two skills, one called deflecting and the other called intercepting?

Also, a zone defender generally sits in the zone until the ball is thrown, at which point he uses sprinting/quickness/footwork to get to the spot the ball is being thrown to to make a deflect or int roll. They do not use cover tech to get to the spot.

Originally posted by Cuivienen
Yes, man defenders absolutely need more cov tech than zone defenders.

Obviously no one is really sure, but based on what I've seen, it doesn't appear to be that way. I haven't done a Zone D - but neither have you - so how would you know how much coverage tech a Zone Defender needs? My experience has suggested Coverage Tech isn't that important on a man D guy at all.

Originally posted by Cuivienen
You realise there are these two skills, one called deflecting and the other called intercepting?

Also, a zone defender generally sits in the zone until the ball is thrown, at which point he uses sprinting/quickness/footwork to get to the spot the ball is being thrown to to make a deflect or int roll. They do not use cover tech to get to the spot.

Again - you're just making assumptions here. Have you put together a zone D in GLB2? We can all talk about real life American football here - but at the end of the day, I think others in this thread have significantly more experience than you at building a zone D.

If you disagree with me, fine. That is what a forum is about. But debate the merits instead of attacking perceived qualifications. It's a pointless discussion if you don't (and, for the record, I have built a player that did pass coverage in zone, and I know what skills worked for those plays and what didn't).

Or, if you want to go that route, the ultimate end game is how much code have you put together for GLB2? I guess none, so we should all stop posting in this forum immediately and leave it to Cdog and Bort.

On your man needing cover tech thing, yes, you can get away with a low cover tech build, but a head fake/route tech/route elusiveness build will obliterate you. You can get away with low whatever for any build at any position tbqh. It will strengthen you against builds not built to exploit your weakness, but leave you completely exposed to those that are. So yeah, you can point to any build and show examples of it working, but someone else could probably find examples of it not working.

Originally posted by Cuivienen
You realise there are these two skills, one called deflecting and the other called intercepting?

Also, a zone defender generally sits in the zone until the ball is thrown, at which point he uses sprinting/quickness/footwork to get to the spot the ball is being thrown to to make a deflect or int roll. They do not use cover tech to get to the spot.

You obviously have no idea how zone works on GLB2.

Originally posted by Cuivienen
I evaluate builds and recruit for Whoville, who, in my opinion, is run by one of the best DCs in the game. He calls the plays, but he trusts me completely to pick players for him to use.

I don't call plays because I don't have nearly enough time, but I watch my players and see how their builds effect their play.

You might not think that means anything, but before last season, Whoville was known as an inconsistent team. We lost that reputation last season. The difference last season was I completely rebuilt the roster for Osiris and let him do his thing with better quality players.

EDIT: I also built one of the best coverage LBs in Vet btw. Regular dot that really put a lid on S* TE Hacksaw in the Hydrogen semi final last season and was one of the reasons Madison won.

Got it. You're a recruiter who is excited about shocking the world with a 22-8 record last season...who has never run a zone defense...or built a zone cornerback.

Noted. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. People who post their opinions (that come from minimal or zero experience)as if they are proven fact...are annoying.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
You obviously have no idea how zone works on GLB2.

Totally meaningless from someone that has no idea how anything works on GLB2.

Originally posted by TxSteve
Got it. You're a recruiter who is excited about shocking the world with a 22-8 record last season...who has never run a zone defense...or built a zone cornerback.

Noted. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. People who post their opinions (that come from minimal or zero experience)as if they are proven fact...are annoying.

You're the expert on annoying.

I like you GE, mostly because you can laugh at yourself.