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No, you don't understand the tactics side enough to run the proper test. And I'm not going to go spilling the order the criteria are processed in cases of no direct match, that's knowledge worth containing here. I actually just mucked with it myself this offseason since I was confirming some combinations for QCB's blitzing LB.

Originally posted by bhall43
Plays:

Short Outside
Short Outside
Medium Outside
Short Inside

Tactics: 50% Long / 50% Outside

This should always use my outside tactics if I don't have a Long play right? Somehow the inside call keeps getting called for some reason.

50% of the time you have no match and it picks a play at random. Why would you have that combo anyway? If you wanted to have it call those 3 outside plays all the time you would do 50% Short/50% Medium(or whatever breakdown you wanted) and 100% Outside. When/If it was time to call a Inside rush play you would just use 100% Inside.

Originally posted by Parab00n
50% of the time you have no match and it picks a play at random. Why would you have that combo anyway? If you wanted to have it call those 3 outside plays all the time you would do 50% Short/50% Medium(or whatever breakdown you wanted) and 100% Outside. When/If it was time to call a Inside rush play you would just use 100% Inside.

Not how it works. This is wrong/bad information.

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
No, you don't understand the tactics side enough to run the proper test. And I'm not going to go spilling the order the criteria are processed in cases of no direct match, that's knowledge worth containing here. I actually just mucked with it myself this offseason since I was confirming some combinations for QCB's blitzing LB.

You have been told my multiple people, been shown proof that it does not discriminate # of WRs, and have not been able to show any type of proof what so ever.

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
I'm a couple tequila + radlers in here, but are any of the plays pass/run? That seems to be a big mistake I see people getting stuck on.

The tactics are coded to choose the pure inside rush defense/outside rush defense stuff FIRST before even taking a look at pass/run blend plays when looking in that direction.

So your long is for long passes. Your outside is for outside rush defense. The blend stuff doesn't qualify first, it jumps in there 2nd.

Also, it doesn't work the way you think it does. It's a coin flip between long and rush outside. If the coin lands on long, it doesn't jump back to rush outside. It's going to start the drill down process where it then jumps to look for a pass defense and so forth.

In other words and the form of really bad if/then statements:

if roll lands on long pass
then look for long pass

if no long pass in playbook
then look for long pass/run in playbook

if no long pass/run in playbook
then look for pass defense in playbook

and on and on



None of those plays were Pass/Run.

All were either Short or Medium Inside/Outside. The inside play should never once be used if there are 3 outside run plays and 50% still falls on Outside rush. Pretty ridiculous if I have to remove the inside or all the long plays in every other formation because of lack of long plays and inside screwing everything up.

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
Not how it works. This is wrong/bad information.

Ok, so if I ask the sim to call a Long pass play and I have no Long pass plays for it to choose from, what does it do?

Originally posted by Parab00n
50% of the time you have no match and it picks a play at random. Why would you have that combo anyway? If you wanted to have it call those 3 outside plays all the time you would do 50% Short/50% Medium(or whatever breakdown you wanted) and 100% Outside. When/If it was time to call a Inside rush play you would just use 100% Inside.

Because for other packages I have long plays. fwiw I didn't think I had to do short/medium because I thought they were all short other than the long plays. Not sure why Strong Shift is medium.

Originally posted by Parab00n
Ok, so if I ask the sim to call a Long pass play and I have no Long pass plays for it to choose from, what does it do?

If there are no other %'s available and it is just 100% Long Pass it should be random. If there are other %'s available it should revert to those.

However I think I see where I mixed up here. Inside becomes 50% because I only had outside at 50%?

Originally posted by bhall43
Because for other packages I have long plays. fwiw I didn't think I had to do short/medium because I thought they were all short other than the long plays. Not sure why Strong Shift is medium.

I think he put it Medium to allow easier calling. If you wanted to call a Long Pass play for 1 formation and a Outside rush for the other, I would try this.

Tactics 100% Long / 100% Outside

2 WR - Only my Outside defenses
3 WR - Only my Long

Originally posted by bhall43
If there are no other %'s available and it is just 100% Long Pass it should be random. If there are other %'s available it should revert to those.

However I think I see where I mixed up here. Inside becomes 50% because I only had outside at 50%?

No, the tactics don't revert. If the Long side of that 50/50 roll wins it looks for a Long Pass play.

Originally posted by Parab00n
I think he put it Medium to allow easier calling. If you wanted to call a Long Pass play for 1 formation and a Outside rush for the other, I would try this.

Tactics 100% Long / 100% Outside

2 WR - Only my Outside defenses
3 WR - Only my Long


Ya makes sense now. I just left Outside at 50% so inside became 50%. Makes sense.

Originally posted by Parab00n
No, the tactics don't revert. If the Long side of that 50/50 roll wins it looks for a Long Pass play.

They have to fill to 100% though don't they? Otherwise it doesn't make sense at all. If there are no Pass plays it should look towards Outside plays as the next best thing. Otherwise even having outside and long both at 100% will still call inside plays if what you were saying is correct.

Originally posted by bhall43
Ya makes sense now. I just left Outside at 50% so inside became 50%. Makes sense.

No Inside didn't become 50%, you were flipping a coin to either call a Long play or a Outside rush play.

Originally posted by bhall43
They have to fill to 100% though don't they? Otherwise it doesn't make sense at all. If there are no Pass plays it should look towards Outside plays as the next best thing. Otherwise even having outside and long both at 100% will still call inside plays if what you were saying is correct.

I'm not 100% sure it will work, its a strange combo to use. I've never used a Long play and a Outside rush play in 2 different formations.

Originally posted by Parab00n
No Inside didn't become 50%, you were flipping a coin to either call a Long play or a Outside rush play.

Then how does 100 Long and 100 Outside help anything? If the coin flips Long it still is going to have no play to choose from and still going to call Inside Rush the same amount as both being at 50.