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Dr. E
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Originally posted by jdbolick

They do stop and it has nothing whatsoever to do with confidence or lack thereof. I didn't realize how often it happens until Westwind had me look at the parsed graphical data. You have some really batshit crazy ideas, Dr. E. Maybe GLB would be more interesting if anything you thought to be true actually was. Sadly you're almost always clueless about the way this sim works.


Not ideas. It's observations. You know, facts backed up by testing. Your disagreeing isn't going to change the reality.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
What's strong enough? 125 strength good enough? Has nothing to do with strength. The lofty settings take precedence over the zip on your ball.


Yes, lofty will effect the zip, but the time it takes a lofty pass for a 90 strength QB and one with 100 is much different. Oh, I don't know what strength is best, I'd say get as much as you can without killing the build. Make it a priority second only to throwing.
 
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Originally posted by Dr. E
Not ideas. It's observations. You know, facts backed up by testing. Your disagreeing isn't going to change the reality.

Not facts, perceptions. There's a reason you keep saying things and all the people who know the game best keep telling you that you're wrong. I wonder if you realize the reality line is something I often say and therefore used it tongue in cheek or if you're oblivious to how much you try to copy me without having the knowledge or insight to pull it off.

Originally posted by Dr. E
Yes, lofty will effect the zip, but the time it takes a lofty pass for a 90 strength QB and one with 100 is much different.

No, it actually isn't. Bhall is trying to be circumspect in correcting your false statement about lofty being a magical cure for interceptions. I had our QB experiment with lofty last preseason and over a pretty significant sample of scrimmages his interceptions went up quite a bit. The z-axis effect is more than offset by lofty passes being easier to catch, both by offensive and defensive players.
 
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Originally posted by Dr. E
Yes, lofty will effect the zip, but the time it takes a lofty pass for a 90 strength QB and one with 100 is much different. Oh, I don't know what strength is best, I'd say get as much as you can without killing the build. Make it a priority second only to throwing.


lol, I wonder if your head will explode when you see this build:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=2476021
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

It really is. And you're wrong about the defensive builds, as I pointed out that break tackle WRs don't work against Pro teams without all that stuff. If you assume that most non-WL yet plateau CBs have make tackle AEQ then you're wrong. Most of them do not.


It isn't just about make tackle aeq. It is a number of attributes and the speed of players that do it. And you can go to regional pro and get an initial broken tackle with a guy a good amount of time.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

No, it actually isn't. Bhall is trying to be circumspect in correcting your false statement about lofty being a magical cure for interceptions. I had our QB experiment with lofty last preseason and over a pretty significant sample of scrimmages his interceptions went up quite a bit. The z-axis effect is more than offset by lofty passes being easier to catch, both by offensive and defensive players.


This. Not to mention the Hail Mary VA's additional strength added. Your strength will help the pass quality but it won't effect the zip in any way that is meaningful. Which is why before PD lines and high catching secondaries, most people sat on 100 bullet.
 
Dr. E
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Originally posted by jdbolick

No, it actually isn't. Bhall is trying to be circumspect in correcting your false statement about lofty being a magical cure for interceptions. I had our QB experiment with lofty last preseason and over a pretty significant sample of scrimmages his interceptions went up quite a bit. The z-axis effect is more than offset by lofty passes being easier to catch, both by offensive and defensive players.


Ahh, I see. Because you couldn't make something work, then nobody can. And who are " all the people who know the game best keep telling you that you're wrong." As for your experiment, I'll bet many of the parameters of your trial was different than mine, meaning different results are probable. You are one of the few trolls who seem to keep popping up when I post. Most people send me messages to ask what we are doing that makes our passing game work when others are failing.

I posted my observations, if you don't want to use the information, then don't, but don't say I'm wrong when what I say is working right now for my own team. Everyone in the game is free to look at our stats, plenty of games vs. WL teams also.
 
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Originally posted by Homage
lol, I wonder if your head will explode when you see this build:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=2476021


Ok, I don't get it, why would my head explode? I didn't see anything real odd?
 
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Originally posted by Dr. E
Ahh, I see. Because you couldn't make something work, then nobody can. And who are " all the people who know the game best keep telling you that you're wrong." As for your experiment, I'll bet many of the parameters of your trial was different than mine, meaning different results are probable. You are one of the few trolls who seem to keep popping up when I post. Most people send me messages to ask what we are doing that makes our passing game work when others are failing.

I posted my observations, if you don't want to use the information, then don't, but don't say I'm wrong when what I say is working right now for my own team. Everyone in the game is free to look at our stats, plenty of games vs. WL teams also.


Your passing game works (and I say that lightly because your QB really isn't doing incredibly great) because you are targeting the TE's, WR's, and HB's on shorter exploitive routes. I am not sure how you find that to be a category of strength + lofty but that is absolutely laughable to me.

Hey look I can do the same thing http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4389729&playoffs=0
 
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I mean seriously....if those people really did message you and ask you why your passing game works while theirs is failing and you told him something about strength or use of lofty in your QB's build or confidence on WR's that would be the most ridiculous thing ever.
 
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Originally posted by Dr. E
Ahh, I see. Because you couldn't make something work, then nobody can.

Considering how awesome I am that would probably be a safe assumption, but no, I'm pointing out that you make assumptions based on limited data that results in false conclusions. You do this a lot, which is frankly the only thing I know you for.

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I posted my observations, if you don't want to use the information, then don't, but don't say I'm wrong when what I say is working right now for my own team. Everyone in the game is free to look at our stats, plenty of games vs. WL teams also.

You are wrong. You don't understand the sim and you make comments that illustrate that lack of understanding on a regular basis. Lofty has no more to do with your lack of interceptions than your team colors. You're seeing a correlation that isn't even there, much less establishing causation.
 
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Originally posted by Dr. E
Ok, I don't get it, why would my head explode? I didn't see anything real odd?


a QB with sub 80 strength destroying the WL?
 
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Originally posted by Homage
a QB with sub 80 strength destroying the WL?


Ahh, I didn't watch any games or look at what leagues he played in. I did notice a very poor completion percentage. QB on my team has a few games over 80% completions against WL teams,that's without screens by the way. Probably averages closer to 70% and I imagine if he was facing a game plan, the completion percentage would be more like 65%.
 
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Originally posted by Dr. E
Ahh, I didn't watch any games or look at what leagues he played in. I did notice a very poor completion percentage. QB on my team has a few games over 80% completions against WL teams,that's without screens by the way. Probably averages closer to 70% and I imagine if he was facing a game plan, the completion percentage would be more like 65%.


His QB was throwing mostly 30 yard bombs. Your QB is throwing a bunch of short passes. The passing game has had to change up in WL since that QB played because of the INT builds.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Your passing game works (and I say that lightly because your QB really isn't doing incredibly great) because you are targeting the TE's, WR's, and HB's on shorter exploitive routes. I am not sure how you find that to be a category of strength + lofty but that is absolutely laughable to me.

Hey look I can do the same thing http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4389729&playoffs=0


You already know the reason the QB is hitting shorter routes. The defenses are often in two and three deep zones. There's no secret to being a good DC, don't give up the long stuff, count on percentages. Crack down in the red zone. You know what's funny, the comment about the routes being exploitative. I wonder why everyone doesn't use them instead of the Big I and GL sweeps. Anyone taking a look at our play selection will see it's not as you suggest. We don't run one play out of a formation. If we run some single play enough to make it appear an exploitative usage of a route, it would be because Auto Adjust went overboard. We try to saturate the whole field so DCs can't "cheat" coverages, count on our dots winning rolls.

 
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