The good news is u are not alone in the low chem club
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Originally posted by snakes22
The good news is u are not alone in the low chem club
Kind of like the old days with one season plateau. That was a bear.
The good news is u are not alone in the low chem club
Kind of like the old days with one season plateau. That was a bear.
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Unrelated. Did them explaining away early wins/losses due to chemistry somehow make their past WL success happen? Blaming chemistry for losses is a cop-out. To swap out players is a choice, and 1-2% atty hit is far from a damning advantage ensuring a loss. I wish GLB kept track of mini-helmet win% in WL, because I reckon it would surprise some of you.
Chemistry is the cost of roster turnover. Any game you lose, saying "lolchemistry" is simply pretending the direct choices made by coordinators (or during recruiting) are not a bigger cause. This would be incorrect.
Your ego has grown 10 fold for making the playoffs once. Chemistry might not be completely damning, but it is meaningful. At the same time I could say oh hey look BEEF made WL playoffs last season with almost the worst EL in the league. But I am not going to sit here and act like if we hadn't had more effectively built dots that we couldn't have done better.
Unrelated. Did them explaining away early wins/losses due to chemistry somehow make their past WL success happen? Blaming chemistry for losses is a cop-out. To swap out players is a choice, and 1-2% atty hit is far from a damning advantage ensuring a loss. I wish GLB kept track of mini-helmet win% in WL, because I reckon it would surprise some of you.
Chemistry is the cost of roster turnover. Any game you lose, saying "lolchemistry" is simply pretending the direct choices made by coordinators (or during recruiting) are not a bigger cause. This would be incorrect.
Your ego has grown 10 fold for making the playoffs once. Chemistry might not be completely damning, but it is meaningful. At the same time I could say oh hey look BEEF made WL playoffs last season with almost the worst EL in the league. But I am not going to sit here and act like if we hadn't had more effectively built dots that we couldn't have done better.
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Ugh. If you weren't such an insufferable ass who never bothers to learn from other people to ameliorate your own ignorance you might already know that A) we have previously analyzed the success rate of mini-helmets at this level (they don't guarantee wins, but they matter a lot), and B) we have also documented the effects of chemistry. Congratulations, after four years of trying you finally achieved what some of us do with regularity, but now your next step is to continue making the playoffs, which some of us also do with regularity. Those of us with that experience know that staying up here is a delicate balancing act between improving the roster and not overly damaging chemistry. Chemistry is what can cause the same roster that won the WL to lose its first five games (120-7, 113-17, 65-27, 41-23, 35-0) when the owner forgets to re-sign his entire roster.
What makes you so obnoxious and a constant loser in every single season of your GLB existence except s37 is that you pretend to have knowledge you don't instead of learning from people who genuinely do. Chemistry matters. Had you bothered to ask someone who had made the WL playoffs before, you might have found out how much. Chicago going in with low chem doesn't necessarily mean you'll fail like you have every other time, but it does mean you're treading water with a weight belt.
(A/B) Show me the 'analysis' and prove me wrong tough guy. I am of course open to seeing cold hard facts
Try to keep up. I am not saying chemistry does nothing and is a non-factor. I am saying where most teams chemistry is at for next season, it is not as damning as you are pretending it to be. No shit replacing 55 dots fucks ur chemistry, but that is not a practical thing for anyone who didn't release 55 dots or is trying to move whole teams. Lol at trying to explain to me that losing 4-5% on your attributes can make you start worse, no shit.
In 9 days when the season starts our...
Offensive dots will have a 1.7% hit to attributes
Defensive dots will have a 1.6% hit to attributes
That hit will degrade a 0.1%/day until day19 when it hits 0. Will it be a factor? Everything is a factor. Still, offensively and defensively there are things that can be done schematically that will have a MUCH bigger effect on wins and losses than this %. Most other teams will be recovering chem as well during that time, meaning our net negative chem is even less.
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What makes you obnoxious is that you are known idiot, and that your team has not beaten mine in league play since s28 which is well over a year in real time. I guess as the Hedgehogs trend upwards and whatever your team is named trends downwards you can sit here and reference some super fun fact that the Hedgehogs didn't make the playoffs in their first 8 WL runs. I am more concerned with today tomorrow than yesterday, and I have zero regrets about my path in GLB as an owner.
"What makes you so obnoxious and a constant loser in every single season of your GLB existence except s37" I like this quote because it captures the fact that the Hedgehogs kept going 5-11 in natty pro but still somehow promoting to WL.
Being louder and spouting the same unintelligent dribble does not make you smarter and it does not win you forum arguments bololick.
Ugh. If you weren't such an insufferable ass who never bothers to learn from other people to ameliorate your own ignorance you might already know that A) we have previously analyzed the success rate of mini-helmets at this level (they don't guarantee wins, but they matter a lot), and B) we have also documented the effects of chemistry. Congratulations, after four years of trying you finally achieved what some of us do with regularity, but now your next step is to continue making the playoffs, which some of us also do with regularity. Those of us with that experience know that staying up here is a delicate balancing act between improving the roster and not overly damaging chemistry. Chemistry is what can cause the same roster that won the WL to lose its first five games (120-7, 113-17, 65-27, 41-23, 35-0) when the owner forgets to re-sign his entire roster.
What makes you so obnoxious and a constant loser in every single season of your GLB existence except s37 is that you pretend to have knowledge you don't instead of learning from people who genuinely do. Chemistry matters. Had you bothered to ask someone who had made the WL playoffs before, you might have found out how much. Chicago going in with low chem doesn't necessarily mean you'll fail like you have every other time, but it does mean you're treading water with a weight belt.
(A/B) Show me the 'analysis' and prove me wrong tough guy. I am of course open to seeing cold hard facts
Try to keep up. I am not saying chemistry does nothing and is a non-factor. I am saying where most teams chemistry is at for next season, it is not as damning as you are pretending it to be. No shit replacing 55 dots fucks ur chemistry, but that is not a practical thing for anyone who didn't release 55 dots or is trying to move whole teams. Lol at trying to explain to me that losing 4-5% on your attributes can make you start worse, no shit.
In 9 days when the season starts our...
Offensive dots will have a 1.7% hit to attributes
Defensive dots will have a 1.6% hit to attributes
That hit will degrade a 0.1%/day until day19 when it hits 0. Will it be a factor? Everything is a factor. Still, offensively and defensively there are things that can be done schematically that will have a MUCH bigger effect on wins and losses than this %. Most other teams will be recovering chem as well during that time, meaning our net negative chem is even less.
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What makes you obnoxious is that you are known idiot, and that your team has not beaten mine in league play since s28 which is well over a year in real time. I guess as the Hedgehogs trend upwards and whatever your team is named trends downwards you can sit here and reference some super fun fact that the Hedgehogs didn't make the playoffs in their first 8 WL runs. I am more concerned with today tomorrow than yesterday, and I have zero regrets about my path in GLB as an owner.
"What makes you so obnoxious and a constant loser in every single season of your GLB existence except s37" I like this quote because it captures the fact that the Hedgehogs kept going 5-11 in natty pro but still somehow promoting to WL.
Being louder and spouting the same unintelligent dribble does not make you smarter and it does not win you forum arguments bololick.
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Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Unrelated. Did them explaining away early wins/losses due to chemistry somehow make their past WL success happen? Blaming chemistry for losses is a cop-out. To swap out players is a choice, and 1-2% atty hit is far from a damning advantage ensuring a loss. I wish GLB kept track of mini-helmet win% in WL, because I reckon it would surprise some of you.
Chemistry is the cost of roster turnover. Any game you lose, saying "lolchemistry" is simply pretending the direct choices made by coordinators (or during recruiting) are not a bigger cause. This would be incorrect.
Your ego has grown 10 fold for making the playoffs once. Chemistry might not be completely damning, but it is meaningful. At the same time I could say oh hey look BEEF made WL playoffs last season with almost the worst EL in the league. But I am not going to sit here and act like if we hadn't had more effectively built dots that we couldn't have done better.
I am convinced. If the Hedgehogs lose any of their first 9 games I will blame the chemistry gods. WHY WAS I SO POWERLESS? If only I had control over what plays were ran as well as how many players were swapped out on my team. WHY HAS BORT FORSAKEN ME.
Blaming chemistry for a loss (especially with a low net chemistry disadvantage) is like blaming the rain for a car accident. Was the rain a factor in your car accident? Of course since everything is a factor, but you still can adjust your driving and not get in an accident. Blaming the rain for a car accident, or blaming traffic for being late to arrive somewhere, just shows a lack of personal responsibility and a lackluster cause-effect analysis.
Also if you actually read my posts I'd contend my ego is exactly where it always was.
Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Unrelated. Did them explaining away early wins/losses due to chemistry somehow make their past WL success happen? Blaming chemistry for losses is a cop-out. To swap out players is a choice, and 1-2% atty hit is far from a damning advantage ensuring a loss. I wish GLB kept track of mini-helmet win% in WL, because I reckon it would surprise some of you.
Chemistry is the cost of roster turnover. Any game you lose, saying "lolchemistry" is simply pretending the direct choices made by coordinators (or during recruiting) are not a bigger cause. This would be incorrect.
Your ego has grown 10 fold for making the playoffs once. Chemistry might not be completely damning, but it is meaningful. At the same time I could say oh hey look BEEF made WL playoffs last season with almost the worst EL in the league. But I am not going to sit here and act like if we hadn't had more effectively built dots that we couldn't have done better.
I am convinced. If the Hedgehogs lose any of their first 9 games I will blame the chemistry gods. WHY WAS I SO POWERLESS? If only I had control over what plays were ran as well as how many players were swapped out on my team. WHY HAS BORT FORSAKEN ME.
Blaming chemistry for a loss (especially with a low net chemistry disadvantage) is like blaming the rain for a car accident. Was the rain a factor in your car accident? Of course since everything is a factor, but you still can adjust your driving and not get in an accident. Blaming the rain for a car accident, or blaming traffic for being late to arrive somewhere, just shows a lack of personal responsibility and a lackluster cause-effect analysis.
Also if you actually read my posts I'd contend my ego is exactly where it always was.
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Originally posted by JT_HOOD
Originally posted by sampson_matt
I think I'd take the word of 2 WL championship .gifs and several playoff appearances over 1 playoff appearance.
you can't use facts or reason with Wise, he has his own beliefs. He sees things happening to him and is grasping straws when it comes to him understanding what is going on.
WAT R %'S? -1 to attributes? lol that is a low number it means nothing. You are obviously no Will Hunting.
Originally posted by sampson_matt
I think I'd take the word of 2 WL championship .gifs and several playoff appearances over 1 playoff appearance.
you can't use facts or reason with Wise, he has his own beliefs. He sees things happening to him and is grasping straws when it comes to him understanding what is going on.
WAT R %'S? -1 to attributes? lol that is a low number it means nothing. You are obviously no Will Hunting.
Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
*edit to add* shit is like the Genie in Aladdin 2 (return of jafar ldo). Genie basically gets unlimited wishes, which is super overpowered.
haha wtf
you talk funny
*edit to add* shit is like the Genie in Aladdin 2 (return of jafar ldo). Genie basically gets unlimited wishes, which is super overpowered.
haha wtf
you talk funny
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Try to keep up.
It's staggering that you have multiple WL winning veterans telling you that you're wrong and that you're making an ass of yourself and yet you still run your mouth instead of being chastened. That kind of empty bluster is precisely why the people who are best at this game view you as a clown, and why your results playing this game have been so pitiful. People who pretend to know more than they do will inevitably struggle, as opposed to those who strive to learn from the more knowledgeable and experienced.
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I am not saying chemistry does nothing and is a non-factor.
" If we start off slow it will be due to my ineptitude, not some stupid chemistry mechanic."
Originally posted by
I am saying where most teams chemistry is at for next season, it is not as damning as you are pretending it to be.
You will start the season 0-4. Whether or not you make the playoffs depends on winning 9 of the next 12, which is a tall order for anyone, much less a team with a long track record of failure.
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your team has not beaten mine in league play since s28 which is well over a year in real time.
While technically true, you should probably mention that we don't play that much because I'm always in the WL and you usually aren't. Plus you already know that bragging about games where you got dominated but won because of turnovers isn't the smartest thing in the world. But it's all you can hang your hat on after five years of playing GLB, so I get it.
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Being louder and spouting the same unintelligent dribble does not make you smarter and it does not win you forum arguments bololick.
The irony of you being the one to say this is overwhelming.
Try to keep up.
It's staggering that you have multiple WL winning veterans telling you that you're wrong and that you're making an ass of yourself and yet you still run your mouth instead of being chastened. That kind of empty bluster is precisely why the people who are best at this game view you as a clown, and why your results playing this game have been so pitiful. People who pretend to know more than they do will inevitably struggle, as opposed to those who strive to learn from the more knowledgeable and experienced.
Originally posted by
I am not saying chemistry does nothing and is a non-factor.
" If we start off slow it will be due to my ineptitude, not some stupid chemistry mechanic."
Originally posted by
I am saying where most teams chemistry is at for next season, it is not as damning as you are pretending it to be.
You will start the season 0-4. Whether or not you make the playoffs depends on winning 9 of the next 12, which is a tall order for anyone, much less a team with a long track record of failure.
Originally posted by
your team has not beaten mine in league play since s28 which is well over a year in real time.
While technically true, you should probably mention that we don't play that much because I'm always in the WL and you usually aren't. Plus you already know that bragging about games where you got dominated but won because of turnovers isn't the smartest thing in the world. But it's all you can hang your hat on after five years of playing GLB, so I get it.
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Being louder and spouting the same unintelligent dribble does not make you smarter and it does not win you forum arguments bololick.
The irony of you being the one to say this is overwhelming.
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I am convinced. If the Hedgehogs lose any of their first 9 games I will blame the chemistry gods. WHY WAS I SO POWERLESS? If only I had control over what plays were ran as well as how many players were swapped out on my team. WHY HAS BORT FORSAKEN ME.
Blaming chemistry for a loss (especially with a low net chemistry disadvantage) is like blaming the rain for a car accident. Was the rain a factor in your car accident? Of course since everything is a factor, but you still can adjust your driving and not get in an accident. Blaming the rain for a car accident, or blaming traffic for being late to arrive somewhere, just shows a lack of personal responsibility and a lackluster cause-effect analysis.
Also if you actually read my posts I'd contend my ego is exactly where it always was.
Not that you should ever completely blame chemistry for a loss. Especially in the current era of GLB where the level of play can be pretty equal regardless of quite the difference in EL across the league due to all the SP's rounding out so many builds. But it still has meaning. If one of the bottom teams in terms of EL were to have terribad chemistry, it likely would not end well for their season.
But sure, you can generally make up 1-2% to your skills with good gameplanning. Especially if that gameplanning is run run run run run screen run screen run.
I am convinced. If the Hedgehogs lose any of their first 9 games I will blame the chemistry gods. WHY WAS I SO POWERLESS? If only I had control over what plays were ran as well as how many players were swapped out on my team. WHY HAS BORT FORSAKEN ME.
Blaming chemistry for a loss (especially with a low net chemistry disadvantage) is like blaming the rain for a car accident. Was the rain a factor in your car accident? Of course since everything is a factor, but you still can adjust your driving and not get in an accident. Blaming the rain for a car accident, or blaming traffic for being late to arrive somewhere, just shows a lack of personal responsibility and a lackluster cause-effect analysis.
Also if you actually read my posts I'd contend my ego is exactly where it always was.
Not that you should ever completely blame chemistry for a loss. Especially in the current era of GLB where the level of play can be pretty equal regardless of quite the difference in EL across the league due to all the SP's rounding out so many builds. But it still has meaning. If one of the bottom teams in terms of EL were to have terribad chemistry, it likely would not end well for their season.
But sure, you can generally make up 1-2% to your skills with good gameplanning. Especially if that gameplanning is run run run run run screen run screen run.
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Originally posted by bololick
You will start the season 0-4. Whether or not you make the playoffs depends on winning 9 of the next 12, which is a tall order for anyone, much less a team with a long track record of failure.
I am willing to bet anything that we do not start this season 0-4. Even moneyz for paypal, even moneyz for charity, avatar bets, signature bets, loser makes his team go cpu on day9, etc. Literally willing to bet anything that we do not start 0-4.
If you are interested in any of the above let me know. Otherwise please try to take a pepto and stop spewing diarrhea all over this forum.
Originally posted by bololick
While technically true, you should probably mention that we don't play that much because I'm always in the WL and you usually aren't. Plus you already know that bragging about games where you got dominated but won because of turnovers isn't the smartest thing in the world. But it's all you can hang your hat on after five years of playing GLB, so I get it.
Your team is still 0-3 vs the Hedgehogs in league play from s29 foreward. Facts be facts yo. And while I do not hang my hat on it in the least, it is just an important reference point for how stupid you look with every single thing you type.
Also lol at calling me bad for having turnover dots. If turnover dots are so overpowered, wouldn't a (pretend) intelligent person like yourself want to get some, rather than crying every single game that you got cheated by overpowered turnovers in every sim?
Originally posted by Wise 4 Ian
I am not saying chemistry does nothing and is a non-factor
Originally posted by bololick's dumb ass
Originally posted by Wise 4 Ian
If we start off slow it will be due to my ineptitude, not some stupid chemistry mechanic
Try to imagine using that A+ logic of yours, a situation where both of these statements are true. #OMGSODUMB
You will start the season 0-4. Whether or not you make the playoffs depends on winning 9 of the next 12, which is a tall order for anyone, much less a team with a long track record of failure.
I am willing to bet anything that we do not start this season 0-4. Even moneyz for paypal, even moneyz for charity, avatar bets, signature bets, loser makes his team go cpu on day9, etc. Literally willing to bet anything that we do not start 0-4.
If you are interested in any of the above let me know. Otherwise please try to take a pepto and stop spewing diarrhea all over this forum.
Originally posted by bololick
While technically true, you should probably mention that we don't play that much because I'm always in the WL and you usually aren't. Plus you already know that bragging about games where you got dominated but won because of turnovers isn't the smartest thing in the world. But it's all you can hang your hat on after five years of playing GLB, so I get it.
Your team is still 0-3 vs the Hedgehogs in league play from s29 foreward. Facts be facts yo. And while I do not hang my hat on it in the least, it is just an important reference point for how stupid you look with every single thing you type.
Also lol at calling me bad for having turnover dots. If turnover dots are so overpowered, wouldn't a (pretend) intelligent person like yourself want to get some, rather than crying every single game that you got cheated by overpowered turnovers in every sim?
Originally posted by Wise 4 Ian
I am not saying chemistry does nothing and is a non-factor
Originally posted by bololick's dumb ass
Originally posted by Wise 4 Ian
If we start off slow it will be due to my ineptitude, not some stupid chemistry mechanic
Try to imagine using that A+ logic of yours, a situation where both of these statements are true. #OMGSODUMB
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Originally posted by bhall43
Especially if that gameplanning is run run run run run screen run screen run.
My screens dont work. Got any tips?
Especially if that gameplanning is run run run run run screen run screen run.
My screens dont work. Got any tips?
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