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Originally posted by cavalier
But to the WL long term is more fun when you build rivalries, etc. I think it would be a lot better if they included a play-in game like suggested above.
Nope, one of the best things about the WL is having a lot of turnover and giving new people a chance to make it. It's already become boring as shit with all the same faces running most teams. It's really not even that hard for veterans to make the playoffs, so if you didn't then suck it up and try to get back next year. A play-in game means that someone could be even more lazy than they are now.

Originally posted by jdbolick

Nope, one of the best things about the WL is having a lot of turnover and giving new people a chance to make it. It's already become boring as shit with all the same faces running most teams. It's really not even that hard for veterans to make the playoffs, so if you didn't then suck it up and try to get back next year. A play-in game means that someone could be even more lazy than they are now.

i would rather keep teams that go 8-8, 7-9 in WL then promote teams that lose the CC game at pro level and most likely are looking at 2-14 or 3-13 at the WL level

I don't see the big issue. The 16 best Pro teams promoted with he old system, and the 16 best Pro teams will promote with the new system.
Making the road to WL harder than it already is will only deter more people from playing in my opinion.

Although I understand the arguments about a promotion playoff system and how this will be positive for the WL, I still think GLB as a whole will benefit more from the new system by allowing the same number of Pro teams to promote to WL.

Originally posted by ghuffman
i would rather keep teams that go 8-8, 7-9 in WL then promote teams that lose the CC game at pro level and most likely are looking at 2-14 or 3-13 at the WL level
That's not what is best for the game.

Originally posted by jdbolick

That's not what is best for the game.

You may be right, but part of my enjoyment of the game is good competition. Probably for vets of this game that is important, but for new teams maybe not.

2 playoffs wins to earn a WL spot

Originally posted by ghuffman
You may be right, but part of my enjoyment of the game is good competition. Probably for vets of this game that is important, but for new teams maybe not.

2 playoffs wins to earn a WL spot

I agree with this but what's stopping teams from 0 caresing to a 12th seed and staying up?

Play in games for the 9-12 seeds against the round 2 losers sounds best imo

Originally posted by ghuffman
You may be right, but part of my enjoyment of the game is good competition. Probably for vets of this game that is important, but for new teams maybe not. 2 playoffs wins to earn a WL spot
How do you not understand that this will cause better teams to promote? Now you won't see teams get in because one regional conference was particularly weak. Those two playoff wins will have to come against much better Pro competition, so the 16 promoting teams will be stronger than the 16 we've been getting.

Originally posted by jdbolick

How do you not understand that this will cause better teams to promote? Now you won't see teams get in because one regional conference was particularly weak. Those two playoff wins will have to come against much better Pro competition, so the 16 promoting teams will be stronger than the 16 we've been getting.


i just see 2 playoff wins for pro teams and 9 to 10 regular season wins for WL teams. Most people would agree Pro playoffs after round 1 even with condensed leagues will maybe be close to WL level competition. So, that means pro teams just need one important win against a somewhat difficult opponent.

One average there are about 3 teams in each conference that is tough. Season 31 it will be 6 or 7. WL it's 16 tough games. Just to get to the playoffs. Not even a comparison imo.

Originally posted by ghuffman
i just see 2 playoff wins for pro teams and 9 to 10 regular season wins for WL teams. Most people would agree Pro playoffs after round 1 even with condensed leagues will maybe be close to WL level competition. So, that means pro teams just need one important win against a somewhat difficult opponent.

One average there are about 3 teams in each conference that is tough. Season 31 it will be 6 or 7. WL it's 16 tough games. Just to get to the playoffs. Not even a comparison imo.

Its still gonna be the same situation in pro leagues imo, just the CCG moves to the 2nd round game. Some conferences are gonna be stacked with 6 potential WL teams and others with no WL potential but still gonna send 2 up here to go 0-16

Originally posted by snakes22
Its still gonna be the same situation in pro leagues imo, just the CCG moves to the 2nd round game. Some conferences are gonna be stacked with 6 potential WL teams and others with no WL potential but still gonna send 2 up here to go 0-16

yep, but that was what i made the suggestion for. To avoid the same teams going up to go 0-16

Originally posted by ghuffman
yep, but that was what i made the suggestion for. To avoid the same teams going up to go 0-16

Competition should improve with less leagues so I do agree with the change. The only problem is gonna be setting up the conferences so they are balanced with equal talent

If they use rivalry points it will be a whole league just in 1 conf

Same thing happens by the time the minors elite hit 1 elite league

Originally posted by Bladnach
Yea, it should be easy enough to do for day 40 since it'll only be 1 game. Makes sense too. Keeping 4 from each pro league seems like too much. Only having to win 2 games in the playoffs is too easy. Just makes pro playoffs more worthless

Yeah, but those 1st and 2nd rounds in pro playoffs will be more like 2nd and 3rd rounds now with the better quality of teams in pro league playoffs.

Originally posted by ghuffman

i just see 2 playoff wins for pro teams and 9 to 10 regular season wins for WL teams. Most people would agree Pro playoffs after round 1 even with condensed leagues will maybe be close to WL level competition. So, that means pro teams just need one important win against a somewhat difficult opponent.

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That's the thing that kinda is annoying for me. It's defintiely easier. Most teams will still coast to the playoffs and be heavy favorites in round 1, then they just play 1 game.

Before it was just the title game that was pointless but meant something to people who maybe haven't won it because they remember when it meant something the first 12-15 seasons. Now, with the new regions, you have half the playoffs in Pro completely meaningless. Not sure why there is even a CCG and title game anymore