we will see. I just built a Man Specialist CB and will train and build him as I like. I am pretty sure it will be better then some of the examples I have seen.
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
My CB will end with around 70 tackling. How much will yours end with?
this... in addition to 145+ speed, 95+ agility, 80+ jumping, 85+ vision, 60+ strength, 60+ stamina, rounded out with SAs (SDC, CD, SV, SB)... and that going to be a fairly average CB.
My CB will end with around 70 tackling. How much will yours end with?
this... in addition to 145+ speed, 95+ agility, 80+ jumping, 85+ vision, 60+ strength, 60+ stamina, rounded out with SAs (SDC, CD, SV, SB)... and that going to be a fairly average CB.
Edited by Worker 3 on Oct 23, 2011 17:42:04
Originally posted by Worker 3
this... in addition to 145+ speed, 95+ agility, 80+ jumping, 85+ vision, 60+ strength, 60+ stamina, rounded out with SAs (SDC, CD, SV, SB)... and that going to be a fairly average CB.
Yeah. More like 155 speed, 90 agility, 90 vision, 80+ jumping, 70 tackling, 60+ strength, 60+ stamina, 10 SB, 10 SV, 8 FS, 8 CD, 2x PD% and 1xMT%. IIRC, that is about where my youngest CBs will end up. Strength might be around 55, but I'm aiming for 60.
this... in addition to 145+ speed, 95+ agility, 80+ jumping, 85+ vision, 60+ strength, 60+ stamina, rounded out with SAs (SDC, CD, SV, SB)... and that going to be a fairly average CB.
Yeah. More like 155 speed, 90 agility, 90 vision, 80+ jumping, 70 tackling, 60+ strength, 60+ stamina, 10 SB, 10 SV, 8 FS, 8 CD, 2x PD% and 1xMT%. IIRC, that is about where my youngest CBs will end up. Strength might be around 55, but I'm aiming for 60.
Originally posted by Kanyeezy
So remember me when your cb hits 40 and compare stats.
Nuff said. You can compare lolbars now and compare at DAY 40... While I'll compare them at lvl 40. Enjoy being a less than sub-par dot builder. If your cb makes it to 40, I will guarantee my cb will be better.
Lol@lolbars.
So remember me when your cb hits 40 and compare stats.
Nuff said. You can compare lolbars now and compare at DAY 40... While I'll compare them at lvl 40. Enjoy being a less than sub-par dot builder. If your cb makes it to 40, I will guarantee my cb will be better.
Lol@lolbars.
Edited by Kanyeezy on Oct 24, 2011 03:04:10
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Talking about catching as the 4th most important attrib on a man corner is where u lost all credability
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Talking about catching as the 4th most important attrib on a man corner is where u lost all credability
Maybe he wants to be used as a part time wr.
Talking about catching as the 4th most important attrib on a man corner is where u lost all credability
Maybe he wants to be used as a part time wr.
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catching does help with Ints, and is a Minor that gets ALGs for a Man Specialist... I view it as slightly more important then Vision (even though Vision is a Major), so Catching is fairly important... unless you do not lick to get interceptions.
Originally posted by einar_90808
catching does help with Ints, and is a Minor that gets ALGs for a Man Specialist... I view it as slightly more important then Vision (even though Vision is a Major), so Catching is fairly important... unless you do not lick to get interceptions.
So your saying that you'd RATHER catch a int... Instead of seeing a play develop and having a better chance of being in the right spot to make a play. Don't forget that catching helps you stop the run... But hey I guess catching helps you catch the person who caught the ball, am I right in your insane logic? Jus sayin.
catching does help with Ints, and is a Minor that gets ALGs for a Man Specialist... I view it as slightly more important then Vision (even though Vision is a Major), so Catching is fairly important... unless you do not lick to get interceptions.
So your saying that you'd RATHER catch a int... Instead of seeing a play develop and having a better chance of being in the right spot to make a play. Don't forget that catching helps you stop the run... But hey I guess catching helps you catch the person who caught the ball, am I right in your insane logic? Jus sayin.
Edited by Kanyeezy on Oct 23, 2011 21:50:42
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the thing with catching is that it seems to only help marginally with INTs. there are lots of CBs and other dots that have very low catching and have just as many INTs as defensive dots with lots of catching. RNG just seems to play a large role in the INT roll. that doesnt mean you shouldnt touch catching at all. i have a CB that will have 70 catching. but i dont think you should touch catching unless you want a CB that kind of specializes in getting INTs. otherwise, i just dont see as much of a return on your SP investment... and most dot builders would agree... in fact, im of the opinion that high vision is more important than catching in catching INTs... or at least thats what ive seen from personal experience (and i think im pretty qualified in that arena 
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also, because of what i said above, catching is no where near as important as vision. jumping is sill more important that catching for an INT based CB, and vision is above catching. for a normal CB, i would say strength is above catching... again, even dots with shit tackling sometimes wind up getting just as many INTs as dots with catching.
)also, because of what i said above, catching is no where near as important as vision. jumping is sill more important that catching for an INT based CB, and vision is above catching. for a normal CB, i would say strength is above catching... again, even dots with shit tackling sometimes wind up getting just as many INTs as dots with catching.
Edited by Worker 3 on Oct 23, 2011 21:55:51
Does this kid boost? Cuz his CB is still 16... If he was lvl 19 we'd of seen his 16/19 drop to 19/19... At most.
Also... My CB hit 19/21 during the rollover.
Also... My CB hit 19/21 during the rollover.
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Originally posted by Kanyeezy
Does this kid boost? Cuz his CB is still 16... If he was lvl 19 we'd of seen his 16/19 drop to 19/19... At most.
Also... My CB hit 19/21 during the rollover.
Really? yes he does boost, and it is now 19/21 with a player Value of 397.82 while your guy is 19/21 with a Player Value of 395.
And the LOLbars show your guy having
Overall: 27
Pass Defense: 42
Tackling: 18
while mine has
Overall: 36
Pass Defense: 42
Tackling: 42
so again... I fail to see how your guy is any better then mine. If anything he is worse, and with your 'expert' prediction that my guy would be 19/19 turning out to be wrong...
...you would have to wonder just how many things you could be wrong about.
Does this kid boost? Cuz his CB is still 16... If he was lvl 19 we'd of seen his 16/19 drop to 19/19... At most.
Also... My CB hit 19/21 during the rollover.
Really? yes he does boost, and it is now 19/21 with a player Value of 397.82 while your guy is 19/21 with a Player Value of 395.
And the LOLbars show your guy having
Overall: 27
Pass Defense: 42
Tackling: 18
while mine has
Overall: 36
Pass Defense: 42
Tackling: 42
so again... I fail to see how your guy is any better then mine. If anything he is worse, and with your 'expert' prediction that my guy would be 19/19 turning out to be wrong...
...you would have to wonder just how many things you could be wrong about.Edited by einar_90808 on Oct 24, 2011 11:27:28
Originally posted by einar_90808
catching does help with Ints, and is a Minor that gets ALGs for a Man Specialist... I view it as slightly more important then Vision (even though Vision is a Major), so Catching is fairly important... unless you do not lick to get interceptions.
This might be the dumbest build advice I've ever seen given in these forums.
catching does help with Ints, and is a Minor that gets ALGs for a Man Specialist... I view it as slightly more important then Vision (even though Vision is a Major), so Catching is fairly important... unless you do not lick to get interceptions.
This might be the dumbest build advice I've ever seen given in these forums.
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Originally posted by Kanyeezy
So your saying that you'd RATHER catch a int... Instead of seeing a play develop and having a better chance of being in the right spot to make a play. Don't forget that catching helps you stop the run... But hey I guess catching helps you catch the person who caught the ball, am I right in your insane logic? Jus sayin.
Many CBs are by definition On Their Man, so if they have good catching and jumping they can get an Int, or PD regardless of visions. And I am not sure if you are insane or not when you say 'catching helps you stop the run'... I thought that would be Tackling, since without it a good HB or FB will just run you over... all vision will do there is help you see they guy coming to flatten you.
So your saying that you'd RATHER catch a int... Instead of seeing a play develop and having a better chance of being in the right spot to make a play. Don't forget that catching helps you stop the run... But hey I guess catching helps you catch the person who caught the ball, am I right in your insane logic? Jus sayin.
Many CBs are by definition On Their Man, so if they have good catching and jumping they can get an Int, or PD regardless of visions. And I am not sure if you are insane or not when you say 'catching helps you stop the run'... I thought that would be Tackling, since without it a good HB or FB will just run you over... all vision will do there is help you see they guy coming to flatten you.
Originally posted by einar_90808
Many CBs are by definition On Their Man, so if they have good catching and jumping they can get an Int, or PD regardless of visions. And I am not sure if you are insane or not when you say 'catching helps you stop the run'... I thought that would be Tackling, since without it a good HB or FB will just run you over... all vision will do there is help you see they guy coming to flatten you.
You have no idea what vision does in this game.
Many CBs are by definition On Their Man, so if they have good catching and jumping they can get an Int, or PD regardless of visions. And I am not sure if you are insane or not when you say 'catching helps you stop the run'... I thought that would be Tackling, since without it a good HB or FB will just run you over... all vision will do there is help you see they guy coming to flatten you.
You have no idea what vision does in this game.
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