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Originally posted by RaphaneKnight
Jkid I agree, this is why people should think before they post. I think I was drunk when I said that. (I apologize ) mee

I still think Maine is too high though. Too many tournament wins and not enough reg season wins. I would have to rank us
somewhere around #15~#20.

No offense to SBWL but I'll have to change my mind and rank FGC as #1. It's all about consistency in PW and no teams
have won more regular season games, not to mention the fact that you were always at disadvantage doing everything
all by yourself. This is a massive disadvantage since it's pretty much impossible to assign all the SPs in time. Most time
you are like playing with unassigned SPs, un-updated AIs and untrained players. Oh I forgot about individual tactics,
wow I don't think people realize how hard it is to manage all those players.

So let's see mee

Longevity Check
Playing with adversities Check
Reg season dominance Check
Ability to play with unassigned Sps, un-updated AIs and untrained players Check

Now how good were you in your prime?

I would have to say FGC in its prime was pretty good in seasons 16-18, probably the best trio of consecutive gold seasons ever ever Basically there were 4 total losses between the 3 seasons in regular season and playoffs and the season 16 playoff against Crackertown, who went on to win gold was decided by 4 points and the season 17 loss against them by 7 points. poll

That's pretty much the nail in the coffin. It's hard to argue against that.

Hey jkid2, if you don't mind can you do an all time coordinator poll as well? I would appreciate it. I think the top two guys are pretty much locked but I'm not sure if I should have you #1 or #2.



What? Too many tournament wins? Since when can you have too many wins?

And it is an enormous advantage...it takes 5 minutes to apply SPs for that many players...and training may take a while but wont need to be updated until playoffs

SBWL is the best team...going through 14 seasons of great ball? No team in PW or maybe even GLB can say that... (well there are some WL teams and such but whatever)
FGC was the best team from S17-S19...they lost like what 3 games? lol FG is the best regular season gold team

Originally posted by jkid2
I don't agree with this, you are a gold champion and have many tournament wins, not to mention I think you have made the playoffs every season you have been in gold and have a good resume counting all the seasons. I thought you are in the 6-8 range, but a couple more seasons would put you ahead of shorter lived teams like HHM and Tombstone, both of who will probably take a tumble down the all time team rankings in the next couple of seasons.

lol are you guys really that naive or just trying to play along with me? Which one is it?

You ever played "find wally"? Same concept.

I'll give you another chance I thought you would get it after the 2nd post.

Originally posted by RaphaneKnight
lol are you guys really that naive or just trying to play along with me? Which one is it?

You ever played "find wally"? Same concept.

I'll give you another chance I thought you would get it after the 2nd post.


We are all at a disadvantage here boss

Originally posted by jkid2
Originally posted by ManOgwaR


2 FGC <~I only rate FGC this high coz the W/L record speaks for itself, but as far as great teams go ...if all these top5 teams had of been in their prime and they came up against each other to contest these rankings, then I would expect FGC to have come in last


I'm not so sure about that. FGC in its prime was pretty good in seasons 16-18, probably the best trio of consecutive gold seasons ever. Basically there were 4 total losses between the 3 seasons in regular season and playoffs and the season 16 playoff against Crackertown, who went on to win gold was decided by 4 points and the season 17 loss against them by 7 points. We were just also dealt a bunch of close losses in tourneys which I didn't gameplan for in those seasons.

I was just giving my opinion ...yeah I know about the 16-18 and I agree, which is why FGC is at number2 on my list ...but that was also when the sims were out of whack (outside coverage for defenses had changed) and the quality of most teams in gold were not as good IMO

...not taking anything away from FGC ...you deserve to have your team up there, and FGC were bound to win the championship sooner or later ...it was just at a time where it seemed the interest in the gold league died down a bit and there wasn't as many of serious challengers imo ...I still don't rate gold as highly as it was for quality in the first 5 seasons (11-16)

Yep, I wasn't really being sarcastic.

There are also hidden words in my post. You'll have to add them all up to exactly
know the meaning though. Check the title for hint...

Sorry jkid2, I just couldn't resist lol

Don't get me wrong though since I still like you, nothing personal

Originally posted by RaphaneKnight
Yep, I wasn't really being sarcastic.

There are also hidden words in my post. You'll have to add them all up to exactly
know the meaning though. Check the title for hint...

Sorry jkid2, I just couldn't resist lol

Don't get me wrong though since I still like you, nothing personal

It's cool, it's not like FG will do anything this season anyway to improve our spot

Instead of hurting some people's feelings (b/c I can imagine some people are getting upset) just go with a the original idea. Do a Top 10 and an Top 10 Honorable Mention. I honestly dunno who I would rank where but if I had to longevity and consistency would be a great deal to me. I would rank it more on regular season wins than tourney wins (Tourney wins are big but used to ppl would boost to get advantages in these tourneys --- which is their choice of course) and obviously Gold being of higher regard than Silver.

So what about a 10 and 10? Anyways this is fun to discuss

You will never make anyone happy in this game unless you claim all to be Gods. Anyways tourney games are a crap shoot tbh. Some teams get a cakewalk schedule while others have to go through 4 power house teams. Ive seen that a lot. Also just an example, the season we went 55-2. The one loss was the GLB tourney game, I am pretty confident had we won that game we would of won that tourney too. We lost to a fully boosted Muddog team with the level 8 bonus and only lost by 3. I think Muddogs ended up in the final; though I haven't looked. Lots of great teams in pee wee. There were a few that dont even get mentioned because its pre Gold League. Those teams would of done well in Gold as well. I think instead of a top 10, we just need a ring of honor with honorable mentions.

I think there needs to be 2 lists, those teams that won a Gold championship, and those that didn't. You just can't compare a team that won a championship to one that didn't.

Does a team Owner get an honorable mention as one of the best if it was the OC and DC or head coach that did all the work?

That's part of the game and you have to deal with it. Overcoming adversity is also part of the game. I have rarely ever ninja boosted in any of the teams I was part of and it didn't stop us from winning tournament games. Can't have it both ways when you also have the same advantage against no/no teams. I'm sure from a no/no teams point of view this entire GLB thing is a crap shoot.

It's no different than in gold league where people used to boost as early as game #2. That's actually where FG got most of their gold wins from earlier in their career. I don't see how anyone would get their feelings hurt over someone poking fun of their list. There is nothing wrong with being humorous about it and if they can't take a friendly jab then don't post the list in the first place. I'm not saying it's the case here but I find it amusing how trolls get their feelings hurt more when people return the favor to them.

Originally posted by BBird40
Instead of hurting some people's feelings (b/c I can imagine some people are getting upset) just go with a the original idea. Do a Top 10 and an Top 10 Honorable Mention. I honestly dunno who I would rank where but if I had to longevity and consistency would be a great deal to me. I would rank it more on regular season wins than tourney wins (Tourney wins are big but used to ppl would boost to get advantages in these tourneys --- which is their choice of course) and obviously Gold being of higher regard than Silver.

So what about a 10 and 10? Anyways this is fun to discuss

as I said with my top5 ...and that is all that I wanted to mention coz others either haven't been around in gold long enough, or they haven't made a lasting impression there as yet ...I dun think that my top5 can really be argued ...maybe the rankings can be debated, but those top5 deserve a mention ...all 5 have won the gold championship and had always been consistantly good at the top over a period of 3 or more seasons in gold!

Originally posted by LordEvil
Does a team Owner get an honorable mention as one of the best if it was the OC and DC or head coach that did all the work?

We are talking teams, so no, but a separate thread could be made for best owners/coaches.

Originally posted by LordEvil
Does a team Owner get an honorable mention as one of the best if it was the OC and DC or head coach that did all the work?

+1
Takes a Ton of work.....Main reason I burnt out and didn't honor promotion back to Gold. I just had a sense of pride to prove we belong there was good enough.

Originally posted by RaphaneKnight
That's part of the game and you have to deal with it. Overcoming adversity is also part of the game. I have rarely ever ninja boosted in any of the teams I was part of and it didn't stop us from winning tournament games. Can't have it both ways when you also have the same advantage against no/no teams. I'm sure from a no/no teams point of view this entire GLB thing is a crap shoot.

It's no different than in gold league where people used to boost as early as game #2. That's actually where FG got most of their gold wins from earlier in their career. I don't see how anyone would get their feelings hurt over someone poking fun of their list. There is nothing wrong with being humorous about it and if they can't take a friendly jab then don't post the list in the first place. I'm not saying it's the case here but I find it amusing how trolls get their feelings hurt more when people return the favor to them.

That early boosting was for seasons 12 and 13 only. We are now in season 21, so clearly that wasn't all of it. However, the 12-15 teams were not that good. Season 12 and 13 were early boosters and season 14 and 15 was adjusting to not early boosting. Last 5 seasons has been without that edge at all or a disadvantage.