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j_reimy
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I agree that it looks like a tip / pick. It's a little far in the replay but I'm suspecting that it is more related to the visual aspect not necessarily being the reality of the play. Verifying as not likely a bug.
 
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I've played a lot of football (through college), and I've watched a lot of football. It is true that sometimes balls get tipped, deflected, bounce off shoulder pads/helmets and travel a long ways...but almost never that far back in the direction of the throw (immaculate reception was right up there in distance).

For the really far tips they're either to the side or backwards b/c of the momentum of the throw. 98% of balls tipped by a defender either stop pretty much right there or travel backwards. A ball does not bounce anywhere near straight off a helmet, the helmet is round.

Maybe it's somewhat of a visual bug, but I really think a lot of you are underestimating the force it takes for a football to travel back towards the thrower any decent distance. The majority of those are after they've been tipped a couple times (stopping the momentum) or an extremely hard hit by a defender behind the receiver and a hard object like a shoulder pad (not a hand). At this level of GLB, there are no 'knocked loose' passes, so that can't really be it.

Again, go do a test for yourself. Go in your backyard and throw a football hard at something...I bet you can't make it come right back at you anywhere near 18 feet. Or throw it at your buddy and have him actively TRY to tip it back towards you 6 feet (if you're actually throwing it hard).
Edited by PING72 on Feb 24, 2011 10:31:53
 
Skoll Wolfrun
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Originally posted by PING72
I've played a lot of football (through college), and I've watched a lot of football. It is true that sometimes balls get tipped, deflected, bounce off shoulder pads/helmets and travel a long ways...but almost never that far back in the direction of the throw (immaculate reception was right up there in distance).

For the really far tips they're either to the side or backwards b/c of the momentum of the throw. 98% of balls tipped by a defender either stop pretty much right there or travel backwards. A ball does not bounce anywhere near straight off a helmet, the helmet is round.

Maybe it's somewhat of a visual bug, but I really think a lot of you are underestimating the force it takes for a football to travel back towards the thrower any decent distance. The majority of those are after they've been tipped a couple times (stopping the momentum) or an extremely hard hit by a defender behind the receiver and a hard object like a shoulder pad (not a hand). At this level of GLB, there are no 'knocked loose' passes, so that can't really be it.

Again, go do a test for yourself. Go in your backyard and throw a football hard at something...I bet you can't make it come right back at you anywhere near 18 feet. Or throw it at your buddy and have him actively TRY to tip it back towards you 6 feet (if you're actually throwing it hard).


Give me a helmet to swing that the ball and I can easily knock the ball 6 feet...
 
TruthHammer
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Originally posted by PING72
but almost never that far back in the direction of the throw (immaculate reception was right up there in distance).


And when was the last time you saw a replay like the one in the OP? If it is possible, but "almost never happens" in GLB, I'd call that realism.
 
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