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StoutOne
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Elusives seemed p balanced back in S6 imo.
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by StoutOne
Elusives seemed p balanced back in S6 imo.


I S6.
 
AngryDragon
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Man spin was just beginning to be very cool. I was hoping that eventually HBs could reverse field.
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by AngryDragon
Man spin was just beginning to be very cool. I was hoping that eventually HBs could reverse field.


That is when he takes things away.

I think some tester must have had trouble defending it in the world league, so he told Bort that it was overpowered.
 
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TyrannyVaunt
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Originally posted by Bukowski
Honestly, I think all of their SAs needed a little boost, not a nerf.

Bort could also do wonders for Elusive RBs to actually make Super Elusive worthwhile, which he hasn't touched since its implementation.


Bort has spent a lot of time on VA's... And really hasn't paid much attention to SA's IMO. More and more builds are going away from SA's that I have seen.

I would like to see that changed, and agree many could use a boost. Spin was one that was intriguing to see finally firing on a regular basis (given it's cost in the Elusive SA tree for a HB)... But now, it looks like it is back to being questionable the value of the investment.
 
Bukowski
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Seriously, think about how expensive it is to make a Spin HB, especially without AE.

So how in the world the cost justify the production now? I'm seeing RBs that were activating it multiple times a day, now being reduced to maybe once or twice a game.

7 or 8 levels in Spin is definitely not worth it now, especially considering how high you have to raise a few select attributes for it to fire.
 
Track6Track7
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=915510&pbp_id=12785453

 
jdbolick
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I don't know, I just looked through our recent games and almost every one of them had a spin. This one had five from one HB: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=979933&mode=pbp This game had eight total: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=983058&mode=pbp
 
TyrannyVaunt
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Originally posted by AngryDragon
Man spin was just beginning to be very cool. I was hoping that eventually HBs could reverse field.


Agree. I like seeing it. It is a cool feature, and while I don't have any players personally who have invested in it... It is a fun SA to see fire.

And I don't think it was over powered. It just seems odd it isn't firing as much.
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by Track6Track7
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=915510&pbp_id=12785453



I see it doesn't say Spin?
 
TyrannyVaunt
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Originally posted by jdbolick
I don't know, I just looked through our recent games and almost every one of them had a spin. This one had five from one HB: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=979933&mode=pbp This game had eight total: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=983058&mode=pbp


jb.... lets isolate the HB in your example. How many times was the HB firing Spin in non-blow-out games say over the last 5 games? Can you let us know?
 
Derekross
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just had one of my hb's up to 6 natural with ae, 7 with CE. Didn't fire one time this year, so I traded them in and now I gotz nothing but BT's.
 
Track6Track7
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Originally posted by Bukowski
I see it doesn't say Spin?


Fuck, wrong play.
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by jdbolick
I don't know, I just looked through our recent games and almost every one of them had a spin. This one had five from one HB: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=979933&mode=pbp This game had eight total: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=983058&mode=pbp


I talked to the agent that owns one of those RBs, and he told me that he noticed it firing less as well.

He has a RB that activates it often, but has seen a decline recently.
 
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