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Originally posted by Loco Moco
I would support anything that creates better competition.

Doing this would accomplish that.

Even if my team is left where it is, there are a lot of teams worse off than myself that don;t belong where they are.

I still don't get how EE was left out of all this.

seriously, we promoted last season from bbb, was level 18-22's competing against level 40-50s. It was out of wack for sure.

Otis my friend it doesn't go by an average. It goes by your highest level player. If it were an average I wouldn't have a problem. But then someone would sign a bunch of level 50's and a bunch of level ones so their average would be lower. So we're fucked either way

Originally posted by JCJayhawk
Otis my friend it doesn't go by an average. It goes by your highest level player. If it were an average I wouldn't have a problem.

It goes by median combined with your higher level player list. The idea is to get teams of like level together.

Listen the only fair way to do a shuffle right now, after signing have happened in these leagues is by average only. I would think that most teams think they can compete with teams that have the same average level as they do.

Originally posted by JCJayhawk
The point here is that Bort lied when asked directly about the shuffle. This is not about picking and choosing where you want your team to be which is what you all are making it into. Some choose the slowbuild route, some choose to sign higher level players. We are somewhere in between. The fact of the matter is that plans were made based directly on what Bort himself said to us and now after we've signed players he's going to change it up.

It's not lying. Clearly he hasn't made up his mind and he seemed kind of surprised that so many owners wanted a EE shuffle - he expected that there wouldn't be a shuffle.

In any case, communication to one specific team does not override the need to fix parity throughout the system.

Ultimately, the only long-term solution is to be a lot more restrictive about players moving ... assembling entire teams through back room deals isn't anything approaching an approximation of reality. I'm sure in the "GLB Vision" back before Season 1 there was an expectation that teams would mostly be recruited either out of people you knew from other sites or out of the free market. However, since there's no incentive strong enough to drive players into the open market, the dominant force in GLB has become the back room social network that assembles a roster and then goes out and finds a team owned by one of its members - at a level it can expect at a minimum a nice playoff run - to invade.

However, in the short term, bandaids like the shuffle are necessary, because lack of parity will kill the game faster than anything else. No one likes losing by triple digits.

Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by JCJayhawk

Otis my friend it doesn't go by an average. It goes by your highest level player. If it were an average I wouldn't have a problem.

It goes by median combined with your higher level player list. The idea is to get teams of like level together.

Do we have enough "like level" teams to do that?

Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by JCJayhawk

Otis my friend it doesn't go by an average. It goes by your highest level player. If it were an average I wouldn't have a problem.

It goes by median combined with your higher level player list. The idea is to get teams of like level together.

Right but I sent 3 requests asking about this 2 we're responded to.

Response 1..

OtisDriftwood,

The shuffling will go by average player level. If you have a few guys higher up, no worries; it's based on average.


-Zorin


Response 2
OtisDriftwood,

Thank you for reaching out to us. I am sorry that we were not able to get to this message before the shuffle. I am hopeful that you like your teams current placement and that you are with teams that are similar in level to yours.

Regards,
EB


I mean if we're doing a shuffle I want to be able to release anyone on my roster. that way I can compete the way my team was built to compete. thats 30 and under.

Originally posted by OtisDriftwood
Listen the only fair way to do a shuffle right now, after signing have happened in these leagues is by average only. I would think that most teams think they can compete with teams that have the same average level as they do.

Average works but it's more susceptible to manipulation. I could sign 10 level 1's and watch my average go way down. I think Bort's median method has less holes in it

The team in question's "median" level is 29. Are you saying that we will be placed with 31 other teams with a median level of 29? I would agree to that if it were the case, but I highly doubt it

Originally posted by JCJayhawk
Originally posted by Bort

Originally posted by JCJayhawk


Otis my friend it doesn't go by an average. It goes by your highest level player. If it were an average I wouldn't have a problem.

It goes by median combined with your higher level player list. The idea is to get teams of like level together.

Do we have enough "like level" teams to do that?

256 / 8
So the top 32 teams together in A1
Next best 32 in A2
Next best 32 in A3
and so on all the way down to A8

Originally posted by JCJayhawk
The team in question's "median" level is 29. Are you saying that we will be placed with 31 other teams with a median level of 29? I would agree to that if it were the case, but I highly doubt it

It would stick you in a range of like teams - as a whole they would be a lot closer to your level than the current system

Any possibility on AA Bort?

See right now my teams High is 44 but median is 26 without my 6 high level players my median is only gonna drop to 25 because we've got so many in the 23-28 range. there's no way i want to be uncapped I'd rather release the guys I just signed.

Here's where the problem lies
Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by JcWildcat

Okay, so this reshuffle and cap thing is JUST the bottom tier of each region? So say in EE, an A tier team has no worries?

Yep

Originally posted by OtisDriftwood
See right now my teams High is 44 but median is 26 without my 6 high level players my median is only gonna drop to 25 because we've got so many in the 23-28 range. there's no way i want to be uncapped I'd rather release the guys I just signed.

Shuffle doesn't change cap or uncapped - it just puts level like teams together