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If wasn't for the fact that MCRG were pricks all year on these message boards I just might consider what you are saying (90% of the people pissing and moaning right now are from MCRG, which begs the question why do you care? Because you have trolled all season). I KNOW if you guys were in that position you would have done the same thing.

Jacksonville, how about this, maybe the gameplan would be to run it all game long vs krakow (I don't know personally if that is the case or not), or we could be balanced. Why would we broadcast to them exactly what we are going to do? Of course we are going to deny we are going to run run run, just as we are not going to commit to saying we are going to pass pass pass. We don't want them to know exactly what we are going to do.

Originally posted by Madcow8me
Originally posted by goldielax25

no, i dont think it says anything about "cheating". it shows that in certain cases i will make sure to do what is best for my team.

look, there is a problem with the sim. every team that uses strong i slam ever is "cheating" if your logic is to be followed. if we used it 10% of the time before, and have success in that 10%, why wouldnt we just use it 100% of the time if its proven to be effective? you think its a good idea to use plays that arent effective in an important game? you think i should have had my team set up a game plan that wasnt good on purpose? if i thought a shotgun spread 100% of the time gave us the best chance to win i would have used that. the fact is is we have two great backs who can not only get that 3-4 yards per carry that average backs can get from the strong i slam, but can go all the way each time its run. we would have been stupid to not game plan as best as we could.


IE, i will cheat to win, if thats the only way to win......If you knowing over use something that is a known exploit to get an upper hand, thats cheating, no if ands or buts. But what will you do next season when I slam is nerfed, uhhh nothing. We would have been using I slam all season, but we choose to win/loose with morals. have a nice time going winless next season and getting demoted because I slam doesnt work next season


not at all, i dont see how you can infer that using strong i slam is either an exploit or that what we did was "cheating". sleazy and cheesy? absolutely. do i feel like it is in the best interests of the game to be able to do things like that? no. is it a fun way to win? absolutely not. did it give my team a better chance to win? yes.

its funny you guys are saying we'll go winless etc when its removed. its not like we didnt play the entire season a totally different way then we played our round 2 playoff game. its not like we have to be one dimensional, we do have a solid passing game as well (we passed for 5000 yards on the season), and we will be improving our speed running game in the offseason. if borts sim gives us an advantage, why would we not use it?

i am looking forward to the krakow game very much. i thought they played better than us in our regular season game but that we hung in there. it will be very interesting to see how we can counter their strengths, and they ours.

the sim gives everyone the advantage to cheat, real teams choose not to, thats why no one respects you, MC could run the I slam every time and beat you, it takes no skill. You are your team should be banned.

Originally posted by sfniner08
If wasn't for the fact that MCRG were pricks all year on these message boards I just might consider what you are saying (90% of the people pissing and moaning right now are from MCRG, which begs the question why do you care? Because you have trolled all season). I KNOW if you guys were in that position you would have done the same thing.

Jacksonville, how about this, maybe the gameplan would be to run it all game long vs krakow (I don't know personally if that is the case or not), or we could be balanced. Why would we broadcast to them exactly what we are going to do? Of course we are going to deny we are going to run run run, just as we are not going to commit to saying we are going to pass pass pass. We don't want them to know exactly what we are going to do.

we ae the only ones calling people out because we didnt use it, and we have the balls to call cheaters out. We dont have to use exploits to win. what makes it worse is they only used the exploits for that game.

Originally posted by Madcow8me
Originally posted by sfniner08

If wasn't for the fact that MCRG were pricks all year on these message boards I just might consider what you are saying (90% of the people pissing and moaning right now are from MCRG, which begs the question why do you care? Because you have trolled all season). I KNOW if you guys were in that position you would have done the same thing.

Jacksonville, how about this, maybe the gameplan would be to run it all game long vs krakow (I don't know personally if that is the case or not), or we could be balanced. Why would we broadcast to them exactly what we are going to do? Of course we are going to deny we are going to run run run, just as we are not going to commit to saying we are going to pass pass pass. We don't want them to know exactly what we are going to do.

we ae the only ones calling people out because we didnt use it, and we have the balls to call cheaters out. We dont have to use exploits to win. what makes it worse is they only used the exploits for that game.

Since you didn't make the playoffs maybe you should have, lol.

Originally posted by sfniner08
Jacksonville, how about this, maybe the gameplan would be to run it all game long vs krakow (I don't know personally if that is the case or not), or we could be balanced. Why would we broadcast to them exactly what we are going to do? Of course we are going to deny we are going to run run run, just as we are not going to commit to saying we are going to pass pass pass. We don't want them to know exactly what we are going to do.

I said use what works douche nozzle. We all said GG as well.

Originally posted by Madcow8me
the sim gives everyone the advantage to cheat, real teams choose not to, thats why no one respects you, MC could run the I slam every time and beat you, it takes no skill. You are your team should be banned.

nothing you could do could allow your team to beat us. dont kid yourself. that being said im not the kind of owner that will sit back and take it in the rear and lose by 50+ points without trying to do anything to stop it, i dont know why you guys werent trying to win.

ill leave you with this:


Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by DanNava

Originally posted by DanNava


Bort, what are you gonna do about a lot of teams moving up leagues because of a 'cheesy' play when they went like 8-8 or 9-7 while teams that went 14-2 and 16-0 get cheesed and stay in their current league.

Won't this cause underdeveloped teams to move up too fast and too strong teams staying when they should move up?

This Slam I thing seems to have bigger repercussions long term that we might realize.



If they won, they won. If they chose to strong-I it and try to win, they obviously wanted to move up, right?


i wanted to move up, and i wanted to know with certainty that i would be.

if i cheated, i would expect to be banned. this, however, is not cheating. knowing the strengths of your team, and catering a game plan to them is not cheating, as much as you think it is.

Originally posted by Ballinbob
Originally posted by goldielax25

Originally posted by RandomBeast


Can Krakow expect to get I-Slammed all game? Please let us know so we can set up our 100% Slam offense if need be and we can play fumble roulette.

no we wont be doing it in the krakow game, i can guarantee that. the jacksonville game was to make sure we got promoted, nothing would be allowed to get in the way of that. we'll do our homework for you guys, i definitely want to see if we can pick up those 5 points we lost to you guys by in week 2 or not.

Why would you not do it to them, but do it to us??? That seems pretty jacked up. Remember I didn't complain about your gameplan. I don't think you should just do it against one team to get promoted, but then change your stance because you've been called out on it. Stick with your gameplan and what apparently works in this unbalanced game. Who care's who you might upset? It would look even more messed up to switch it now that it has been brought to everybody's attention. No matter what your view is it's an exploit, although it is still within the parameters of how the game is currently working. It's not cheating, but certainly is cheap. With that being said, I'm not complaining. You should do what you feel works best for your team and gives you the best chance to succeed. The thing is you should do it in all games, not just against one team. I just figured I'd address the issue since it directly effected my team.

I was referring to your post. I'm not trying to say you are complaining, I'm just trying to explain that we might run it or not (mute point with the update really) but we wouldn't want to tip Krakow off as to what we are doing. I wasn't trying to argue with you at all. Most of my post was directed at MCRG. Sorry, not trying to irritate you at all. You have a great team for sure.

Originally posted by goldielax25
no, i dont think it says anything about "cheating". it shows that in certain cases i will make sure to do what is best for my team.

look, there is a problem with the sim. every team that uses strong i slam ever is "cheating" if your logic is to be followed. if we used it 10% of the time before, and have success in that 10%, why wouldnt we just use it 100% of the time if its proven to be effective? you think its a good idea to use plays that arent effective in an important game? you think i should have had my team set up a game plan that wasnt good on purpose? if i thought a shotgun spread 100% of the time gave us the best chance to win i would have used that. the fact is is we have two great backs who can not only get that 3-4 yards per carry that average backs can get from the strong i slam, but can go all the way each time its run. we would have been stupid to not game plan as best as we could.

It says a lot about your lack of morals.

The issue isn't using a play 10% or 100% of the time. It is using a play that the entire league knows can't be stopped. The fact that you can run this play effectively 100% of the time isn't because your smart or your players are well built. Everyone can run that play effectively 100% of the time. Let's try not to act like you are some game planning genius because you had to use a cheap exploit to win.

Attempt to defend this all you want but when faced with a moral dilemma you failed which shows your character or lack there of.

Originally posted by sfniner08
If wasn't for the fact that MCRG were pricks all year on these message boards I just might consider what you are saying (90% of the people pissing and moaning right now are from MCRG, which begs the question why do you care? Because you have trolled all season). I KNOW if you guys were in that position you would have done the same thing.

Jacksonville, how about this, maybe the gameplan would be to run it all game long vs krakow (I don't know personally if that is the case or not), or we could be balanced. Why would we broadcast to them exactly what we are going to do? Of course we are going to deny we are going to run run run, just as we are not going to commit to saying we are going to pass pass pass. We don't want them to know exactly what we are going to do.

I don't care who won.

I guarantee had MCRG used this to beat someone we would have been called out. By the way we have known and we didn't do it so saying we would have is just stupid and shows your lack of intelligence.

As big of pricks that we can be, we don't cheat to win games.

Keep trying to justify your actions, it just shows how big of scum bags you are.

Originally posted by goldielax25
Originally posted by Madcow8me

Originally posted by goldielax25


no, i dont think it says anything about "cheating". it shows that in certain cases i will make sure to do what is best for my team.

look, there is a problem with the sim. every team that uses strong i slam ever is "cheating" if your logic is to be followed. if we used it 10% of the time before, and have success in that 10%, why wouldnt we just use it 100% of the time if its proven to be effective? you think its a good idea to use plays that arent effective in an important game? you think i should have had my team set up a game plan that wasnt good on purpose? if i thought a shotgun spread 100% of the time gave us the best chance to win i would have used that. the fact is is we have two great backs who can not only get that 3-4 yards per carry that average backs can get from the strong i slam, but can go all the way each time its run. we would have been stupid to not game plan as best as we could.


IE, i will cheat to win, if thats the only way to win......If you knowing over use something that is a known exploit to get an upper hand, thats cheating, no if ands or buts. But what will you do next season when I slam is nerfed, uhhh nothing. We would have been using I slam all season, but we choose to win/loose with morals. have a nice time going winless next season and getting demoted because I slam doesnt work next season


not at all, i dont see how you can infer that using strong i slam is either an exploit or that what we did was "cheating". sleazy and cheesy? absolutely. do i feel like it is in the best interests of the game to be able to do things like that? no. is it a fun way to win? absolutely not. did it give my team a better chance to win? yes.

its funny you guys are saying we'll go winless etc when its removed. its not like we didnt play the entire season a totally different way then we played our round 2 playoff game. its not like we have to be one dimensional, we do have a solid passing game as well (we passed for 5000 yards on the season), and we will be improving our speed running game in the offseason. if borts sim gives us an advantage, why would we not use it?

i am looking forward to the krakow game very much. i thought they played better than us in our regular season game but that we hung in there. it will be very interesting to see how we can counter their strengths, and they ours.

By counter their strengths you mean run the exploit 89 times...

How can we infer that the Strong I Slam is an exploit? By the fact that every team in GLB can run it successfully for 10 yards in 4 plays no matter what defensive formation is called. Using a software glitch to win is sleazy and I consider it cheating. Will you be punished probably not but like it or not this win will always be tainted for you and others.

Originally posted by goldielax25
Originally posted by Madcow8me

the sim gives everyone the advantage to cheat, real teams choose not to, thats why no one respects you, MC could run the I slam every time and beat you, it takes no skill. You are your team should be banned.

nothing you could do could allow your team to beat us. dont kid yourself. that being said im not the kind of owner that will sit back and take it in the rear and lose by 50+ points without trying to do anything to stop it, i dont know why you guys werent trying to win.

ill leave you with this:


Originally posted by Bort

Originally posted by DanNava


Originally posted by DanNava



Bort, what are you gonna do about a lot of teams moving up leagues because of a 'cheesy' play when they went like 8-8 or 9-7 while teams that went 14-2 and 16-0 get cheesed and stay in their current league.

Won't this cause underdeveloped teams to move up too fast and too strong teams staying when they should move up?

This Slam I thing seems to have bigger repercussions long term that we might realize.



If they won, they won. If they chose to strong-I it and try to win, they obviously wanted to move up, right?


i wanted to move up, and i wanted to know with certainty that i would be.

if i cheated, i would expect to be banned. this, however, is not cheating. knowing the strengths of your team, and catering a game plan to them is not cheating, as much as you think it is.

It wasn't a game plan you jack ass. It was exploiting an error in the programming.

you know I didn't like the idea either, but the fact of the matter is that it usually picks up 3-3.5 YPC... Cupp averaged more like 5 and broke a shit ton of tackles... I think even if we would have used the regular I slam, or any other kind of run play it would have turned out similar. We've been a run team all season because frankly my QB sucks, and Cupp is just crazy.

I know, it isn't like we haven't had a dominating run game all year. I mean, this one single play didn't give us the game, did it help? Probably. Could we have won without it? Probably, but it would have been closer. I'm glad that by moving up we won't have to here that MCRG crying/trolling. I swear they are comprised of a bunch of teenage kids.

Originally posted by sfniner08
I know, it isn't like we haven't had a dominating run game all year. I mean, this one single play didn't give us the game, did it help? Probably. Could we have won without it? Probably, but it would have been closer. I'm glad that by moving up we won't have to here that MCRG crying/trolling. I swear they are comprised of a bunch of teenage kids.

our youngest GM is 23, me, so why dont you wahs my taint with your tonsils, and ill forget that you are a cheater