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Originally posted by Shalubis
Originally posted by palmer_garnett_95

Information Technology. I guess I should reword that to "it was hard to find an entry level job". Everyone wanted you to have experience, but how can you get experience without getting a job first? I got lucky and got a job working with my old boss from college who was doing some contract work.


I live in Silicon Valley - though I'm no techie at all. But I know all sorts of techies and no one is hiring at all. Its either layoffs or freezes. Another thing, I know recruiters from HP, CIsco, and Google and they all say the same thing: for every qualified applicant they get from America they get at least 100 qualified applicants from abroad. Its tough to compete in a world market like that.


Yes it is. Especially when someone in India gets paid a fraction of what I would. However, customers appreciate someone who actually speaks English as their first language. I worked for EDS for about 4-5 months and was assigned to help with Kraft's "security"(aka gave people access to software, setup e-mail, blah blah). We had maybe 20 people there that took the initial calls as the "service desk". When employees of Kraft found out they could actually catch someone that wasn't in India, they would call the help desk and hang up if they had an Indian accent and try again. They kept doing this until they got someone from our call center. I understand, when I called to activate my credit card I had an extremely hard time trying to understand the woman. Some places are trying "rural" outsourcing. Sending the work to places in rural areas of states like Kentucky where the cost of living is lower, so instead of having to pay someone $80K you can pay them around $40K.
 
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Originally posted by palmer_garnett_95

Information Technology. I guess I should reword that to "it was hard to find an entry level job". Everyone wanted you to have experience, but how can you get experience without getting a job first? I got lucky and got a job working with my old boss from college who was doing some contract work.


Yeah, that seems to be the case with everything - even for someone like me who just holds down some pedantic part-time job while I'm in school. Like, my first job interview was for working at a Blockbuster, and basically I didn't get the job because I didn't know how to work a register, and apparently no one had the time to teach me (hahahahaha).

I ended up getting a job at Wal-Mart as a cashier, so that's what I do now. Christ, it is the worst. I don't know how anyone manages to work there full-time.


I had a job working for a movie theater. I had never worked a register before, but I told them I was good at math so a register would be easy. I got a 33 in Math on the ACT, so they figured they would hire me, especially since they need a certain amount of guys to do the dirty jobs like taking out the trash, climbing ladders situated on stairs so you can clean the speakers, being the mean guy that won't give kids tickets to the R movies when they are 12. Those were the good old days...or not.
 
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Yeah, my job is pretty demoralizing in the grand scheme of things. Like half the cashiers are all middle-aged or older women who you can tell have really accomplished nothing in their life. Well. Thinking about it, it's a lot more. I can only think of two other people that are full-time students that don't go to the local horrific community college. Haha.

Oh well. I need cash, I guess.
 
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Originally posted by palmer_garnett_95
Originally posted by Shalubis

Originally posted by palmer_garnett_95


Information Technology. I guess I should reword that to "it was hard to find an entry level job". Everyone wanted you to have experience, but how can you get experience without getting a job first? I got lucky and got a job working with my old boss from college who was doing some contract work.


I live in Silicon Valley - though I'm no techie at all. But I know all sorts of techies and no one is hiring at all. Its either layoffs or freezes. Another thing, I know recruiters from HP, CIsco, and Google and they all say the same thing: for every qualified applicant they get from America they get at least 100 qualified applicants from abroad. Its tough to compete in a world market like that.


Yes it is. Especially when someone in India gets paid a fraction of what I would. However, customers appreciate someone who actually speaks English as their first language. I worked for EDS for about 4-5 months and was assigned to help with Kraft's "security"(aka gave people access to software, setup e-mail, blah blah). We had maybe 20 people there that took the initial calls as the "service desk". When employees of Kraft found out they could actually catch someone that wasn't in India, they would call the help desk and hang up if they had an Indian accent and try again. They kept doing this until they got someone from our call center. I understand, when I called to activate my credit card I had an extremely hard time trying to understand the woman. Some places are trying "rural" outsourcing. Sending the work to places in rural areas of states like Kentucky where the cost of living is lower, so instead of having to pay someone $80K you can pay them around $40K.


Stinks, to be sure. The one thing that I think will always pay is world-class math skills. Of course, I don't have them. But I'm trying my damndest to make sure my 3 boys do. I'm lucky to live in a place that treats math in school with more passion than athletics.
 
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15. Mogadishu Malice- I have learned from the past, that there are usually 2 or 3 teams that sell mid season. I am going out on a limb and believe that this will be one of the first teams to go computer. Please prove me wrong.


Thanks Vegas, we have no plans on quitting.
 
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I have math skills, I just went in a different direction. Maybe I should've stuck with math.

Although, I like where I'm at right now, so I guess things worked out, just took some time to get here.
 
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I rock at teh maths
 
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Good luck to Icky Thump ... my senior year was absolute hell (well the first semester). But there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
 
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Originally posted by palmer_garnett_95
Originally posted by Shalubis

Originally posted by palmer_garnett_95


Information Technology. I guess I should reword that to "it was hard to find an entry level job". Everyone wanted you to have experience, but how can you get experience without getting a job first? I got lucky and got a job working with my old boss from college who was doing some contract work.


I live in Silicon Valley - though I'm no techie at all. But I know all sorts of techies and no one is hiring at all. Its either layoffs or freezes. Another thing, I know recruiters from HP, CIsco, and Google and they all say the same thing: for every qualified applicant they get from America they get at least 100 qualified applicants from abroad. Its tough to compete in a world market like that.


Yes it is. Especially when someone in India gets paid a fraction of what I would. However, customers appreciate someone who actually speaks English as their first language. I worked for EDS for about 4-5 months and was assigned to help with Kraft's "security"(aka gave people access to software, setup e-mail, blah blah). We had maybe 20 people there that took the initial calls as the "service desk". When employees of Kraft found out they could actually catch someone that wasn't in India, they would call the help desk and hang up if they had an Indian accent and try again. They kept doing this until they got someone from our call center. I understand, when I called to activate my credit card I had an extremely hard time trying to understand the woman. Some places are trying "rural" outsourcing. Sending the work to places in rural areas of states like Kentucky where the cost of living is lower, so instead of having to pay someone $80K you can pay them around $40K.


I love it when some guy gets on the phone whose Indian accent is so thick you can barely understand the word hello and he says his name is Mark, but when he says "Mark" is voice even sounds different. How stupid do these people think we are? Listen Habib, stop telling me your name is Mark where there's not a snowballs chance in hell your name is Mark. Quite frankly I don't give a rats ass what your name is as long as you fix my problem and I can understand what your saying. If I ever have to call Dell Customer support again, I'm just gonna take the easy way out and smash my friggin computer, as opposed to attempting to explain to "Mark" what a restore disc is.

I'm glad I work in the construction industry, good luck out-sourcing that.
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My home printer has not been able to communicate with my CPU for about 6 months now... I've already done two 4+ hour sessions with Dell as well as tried to figure it out myself. At the end of each session they told me to reinstall Windows... they fail so hard it's silly. (And I've done the reinstalls too, yuck).

So basically I've been putting off another day-long session with [insert Indian name] because I'm dreading it...
 
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Originally posted by MattyP
My home printer has not been able to communicate with my CPU for about 6 months now... I've already done two 4+ hour sessions with Dell as well as tried to figure it out myself. At the end of each session they told me to reinstall Windows... they fail so hard it's silly. (And I've done the reinstalls too, yuck).

So basically I've been putting off another day-long session with [insert Indian name] because I'm dreading it...


Its Mark, always Mark. Sometimes sounds like Merk, but rest assured it's Mark.
 
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Originally posted by majech
Originally posted by MattyP

My home printer has not been able to communicate with my CPU for about 6 months now... I've already done two 4+ hour sessions with Dell as well as tried to figure it out myself. At the end of each session they told me to reinstall Windows... they fail so hard it's silly. (And I've done the reinstalls too, yuck).

So basically I've been putting off another day-long session with [insert Indian name] because I'm dreading it...


Its Mark, always Mark. Sometimes sounds like Merk, but rest assured it's Mark.


Actually the last time I talked to them it was an "Indian" name. But the other times it's been "Bob" and stuff like that... yeah
 
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6 years?? Rookie.
 
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Damn! Too many!
 
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