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Originally posted by Flame
Let me tell you a little story. There once was a little team named the Wildcat Spartans, they liked to use a certain play. This little team made it all the way to the championship. And in this championship they tried to use that certain play and got SHUT THE FUCK DOWN. So keep using the Strong I Slam, I will find a way to shut it down just like I helped our DC shut the WR Screen Pass down. This is me daring you to use it again.

On another note, I really do hope they fix the OL Blocking / Defensive Tackling issues that are at the very center of this issue. Not to mention teams using the same play over and over and over and over and over and over into infinity. However Bort generally just nerfs something(in this case...powerbacks probably) instead of fixing the problem at hand.

Le sigh.

Let me first say yes you beat us in the finals last season. And you guys did a great job doing it. You exploited us with the SG HB Med pass over and over again. It was good gameplanning on your part.

To say that we used the WR screen and you shut it down is wrong though. In that game we ran the WR screen 6 times
1. No Gain
2. 19 yard gain
3. 9.5 gain
4. 5.5 gain
5. 19 gain
6. 1 yard gain

The people on Belfast definately know what they are doing, however some of you are quite aggressive and you seem to rub people the wrong way.

We needed a Home Playoff game... blah blah blah. Its still bullshit and pussy tactics. Its the reason people are leavin GLB in droves. You needed that Home game more than Dublin did ? Is that what you are saying? Whatever man. If it takes that kinda poor sportsmanship just so you can win a Home playoff game than you are a crappy financial planner as well as a cheat. Weve known about that exploit for a long time and never have used it on any of our teams. Hope you are so proud of that Home game. It just made you look like the biggest ass in this conference. I have respect for every team here except yours. We have the 3rd seed because we EARNED it. You sir have earned nothing but shame.

Originally posted by Zolav
Originally posted by Flame

Let me tell you a little story. There once was a little team named the Wildcat Spartans, they liked to use a certain play. This little team made it all the way to the championship. And in this championship they tried to use that certain play and got SHUT THE FUCK DOWN. So keep using the Strong I Slam, I will find a way to shut it down just like I helped our DC shut the WR Screen Pass down. This is me daring you to use it again.

On another note, I really do hope they fix the OL Blocking / Defensive Tackling issues that are at the very center of this issue. Not to mention teams using the same play over and over and over and over and over and over into infinity. However Bort generally just nerfs something(in this case...powerbacks probably) instead of fixing the problem at hand.

Le sigh.

Let me first say yes you beat us in the finals last season. And you guys did a great job doing it. You exploited us with the SG HB Med pass over and over again. It was good gameplanning on your part.

To say that we used the WR screen and you shut it down is wrong though. In that game we ran the WR screen 6 times
1. No Gain
2. 19 yard gain
3. 9.5 gain
4. 5.5 gain
5. 19 gain
6. 1 yard gain

The people on Belfast definately know what they are doing, however some of you are quite aggressive and you seem to rub people the wrong way.



Fair enough. However, you guys were blowing the doors off teams with that play. We considered a 19 yard gain a success. We didnt want to give up the long TD. And you are exactly right, only 6 times. Not every single play.

Originally posted by Bugman_AZ
We needed a Home Playoff game... blah blah blah. Its still bullshit and pussy tactics. Its the reason people are leavin GLB in droves. You needed that Home game more than Dublin did ? Is that what you are saying? Whatever man. If it takes that kinda poor sportsmanship just so you can win a Home playoff game than you are a crappy financial planner as well as a cheat. Weve known about that exploit for a long time and never have used it on any of our teams. Hope you are so proud of that Home game. It just made you look like the biggest ass in this conference. I have respect for every team here except yours. We have the 3rd seed because we EARNED it. You sir have earned nothing but shame.

Thank you! Someone else gets it.

While im on the subject, Belfast uses the HB Fly (HB Long Pass) and Strong Flood (HB medium Pass) out of the Shotgun on 1st and 2nd down almost religiously. We shut that down hard with planning. Although in retrospect I neglected to run blitz on every formation except the shotgun which cost us a possible win(my bad, I was tired that night lol). Im not saying that is an exploit but its definitely borderline. They also dont run it on every play. Luckliy its a play that can be countered. So far the SI HB Slam cannot, therefore it IS an exploit. Being a DC used to be fun. Unfortunately a few bad eggs can spoil the game for thousands. Its now become a chore and I am losing interest very fast because of it. Theres nothing worse than planning for over an hour and tweaking on your AI just to watch some cheatin pussy run a single play 88 times in a row and control the clock for 45:24 against a top tiered team so they can have a few more bucks to fund their half-assed builds. What a joke.

Originally posted by Bugman_AZ
While im on the subject, Belfast uses the HB Fly (HB Long Pass) and Strong Flood (HB medium Pass) out of the Shotgun on 1st and 2nd down almost religiously. We shut that down hard with planning. Although in retrospect I neglected to run blitz on every formation except the shotgun which cost us a possible win(my bad, I was tired that night lol). Im not saying that is an exploit but its definitely borderline. They also dont run it on every play. Luckliy its a play that can be countered. So far the SI HB Slam cannot, therefore it IS an exploit. Being a DC used to be fun. Unfortunately a few bad eggs can spoil the game for thousands. Its now become a chore and I am losing interest very fast because of it. Theres nothing worse than planning for over an hour and tweaking on your AI just to watch some cheatin pussy run a single play 88 times in a row and control the clock for 45:24 against a top tiered team so they can have a few more bucks to fund their half-assed builds. What a joke.

We have the HB FLY and Strong Flood set in our AI around 15%-20% on a game basis. Our two best players are both of the HB's. Trust me, their builds are nasty. The plan from the beginning of the season was to make sure these two monsters had more touches then anyone else. To be honest, we acquired both by accident. I had sent recruiting letters to each. They both signed within an hour of each other. I had to move my top back from last season to my slow build team just to make room.

They are beasts lol. I spent so much time stopping the HB Pass that i forgot to run blitz. I really wish I had done that. Would have been a much different game. Thats what happens when you DC 10 teams though. You get spread so thin that you miss easy fixes. Im gonna change that for next season and cut to to 5 10 is just too many. You guys played a great game and you played it fair. Thats all I ask of any OC/DC/Owner. I have no problem losing to a better team. I would have put my fist through my monitor if Dresden had pulled that crap on us. When a guy can spend 30 secs by creating a 1 play OAI and beat a DC that spent hours, thats when the line has been crossed.

Originally posted by Zolav
Originally posted by Flame

Let me tell you a little story. There once was a little team named the Wildcat Spartans, they liked to use a certain play. This little team made it all the way to the championship. And in this championship they tried to use that certain play and got SHUT THE FUCK DOWN. So keep using the Strong I Slam, I will find a way to shut it down just like I helped our DC shut the WR Screen Pass down. This is me daring you to use it again.

On another note, I really do hope they fix the OL Blocking / Defensive Tackling issues that are at the very center of this issue. Not to mention teams using the same play over and over and over and over and over and over into infinity. However Bort generally just nerfs something(in this case...powerbacks probably) instead of fixing the problem at hand.

Le sigh.

Let me first say yes you beat us in the finals last season. And you guys did a great job doing it. You exploited us with the SG HB Med pass over and over again. It was good gameplanning on your part.

To say that we used the WR screen and you shut it down is wrong though. In that game we ran the WR screen 6 times
1. No Gain
2. 19 yard gain
3. 9.5 gain
4. 5.5 gain
5. 19 gain
6. 1 yard gain

The people on Belfast definately know what they are doing, however some of you are quite aggressive and you seem to rub people the wrong way.



I'd have to say based on what you guys did with it during the regular season we shut it down for the most part. I knew exactly how to stop it because I encountered it numerous times as an owner back in seasons 4-6 and a few times before that as a DC in seasons 2 and 3 so stopping you guys from scoring on a play you used to score numerous touchdowns...call it what you will.

Me personally, I'm incredibly aggressive, I strive to be the best so I only work with the best and because of that I have a tendency to talk out my ass quite a bit. Sorry if it rubs you guys the wrong way but honestly what you think isn't going to change the way I am.

I made that comment to make a point to the asshats that run Dresden so my apologies for having to use you guys as an example Zolav. Your use of the WR Screen on first downs is nothing compared to running the same play twenty dozen times but it does draw a few interesting parallels.

Im really impressed by the quality of the coordinators in this league. Reminds me of the Canada BBB 11 league Its sad though that one jerkoff can spoil all this skill and disrupt the natural progression of the league by using a lame ass exploit. Im not gonna beat a dead horse because what is done is done. Hopefully they learned their lesson and it NEVER happens again. I have a passion for this game and I would hate to see it go down that road. I sincerely hope we are all better than that.

Originally posted by Bugman_AZ
Im really impressed by the quality of the coordinators in this league. Reminds me of the Canada BBB 11 league Its sad though that one jerkoff can spoil all this skill and disrupt the natural progression of the league by using a lame ass exploit. Im not gonna beat a dead horse because what is done is done. Hopefully they learned their lesson and it NEVER happens again. I have a passion for this game and I would hate to see it go down that road. I sincerely hope we are all better than that.

Well the problem is that not every team in here thinks what Dresden did was wrong. This game has reached our other brethren in the EUO. We had a shit ton of them write into customer support and some moderators. This type a BS will essentially end GLB as we know it. Hell, I spend $100 a month on this game. Most of our members do the same.

Originally posted by Dante929
Originally posted by Bugman_AZ

Im really impressed by the quality of the coordinators in this league. Reminds me of the Canada BBB 11 league Its sad though that one jerkoff can spoil all this skill and disrupt the natural progression of the league by using a lame ass exploit. Im not gonna beat a dead horse because what is done is done. Hopefully they learned their lesson and it NEVER happens again. I have a passion for this game and I would hate to see it go down that road. I sincerely hope we are all better than that.

Well the problem is that not every team in here thinks what Dresden did was wrong. This game has reached our other brethren in the EUO. We had a shit ton of them write into customer support and some moderators. This type a BS will essentially end GLB as we know it. Hell, I spend $100 a month on this game. Most of our members do the same.



I will agree with you. I would hate to see something like this not be fixed. I spend quite a bit of money and that would take a lot of the "game" away for me.

So hopefully they get this fixed.

Fellas, let's just be honest with ourselves for a second. Let's collectively take a step back............. You can be successful using a balanced offense, sure, but essentially every season... The team that best exploits that season's sim is the team that wins. That's GLB.

Who's the most famous player this season? It's Larry Csonka of the Monmouth Evil Monkeys, the best power back in the game for now. Do you think you should try to be oh so original here this season 8 by making a speed back who you hope will perform on the level of Csonka? Well it can't happen. Sorry. Maybe next season?? But for now, you go with the hot hand. If a guy has a perfect game going? Do you take him out because he's exploiting the other team? If a hockey player scores a hat trick, do you sit him because he's too good??? Of course not.

C'mon guys, if something works, it works. This is a simulation, not a pissing contest. If you know you gain a strategic advantage by doing something, why intentionally not do it? Because you have integrity? Oh wow, this is PRECISELY the place where you should take a moral stand. MY MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE ROLE PLAYING GAME FOOTBALL SIMULATION TEAM WILL NOT BE CAUGHT DEAD RUNNING ONE PLAY! I AM A MAN OF INTEGRITY, CHARACTER AND INGENUITY! I ONLY FIND TRUE GLORY IN RUNNING OFF TACKLE HANDOFFS TO MY FB! GOD BLESS A BALANCED OFFENSE IN WHICH I DO NOT GIVE THE BALL TO MY BEST PLAYER AS MUCH AS I CAN USING A PLAY I KNOW WORKS REALLY REALLY WELL!!! HOW DARE YOU USE A PLAY THAT IS WORKING TOO WELL!! ARE YOU NOT A MAN! COME WITH ME AND PASS THE BALL TO YOUR WR! SURE THE QB HAS A 51% COMPLETION PERCENTAGE AND THE WR IS AVERAGING 1.2 YAC, BUT AT LEAST YOU'LL BE A REAL MAN!!!!

Give me a break kids. When we all played madden on sega and super nintendo, did you truly use the whole playbook? Did you sincerely use the full playbook? That's where this game is at in terms of offensive playcalling. C'mon fellas, be honest with yourselves. You found a few good plays that you liked and you ran them into the ground. Why? Because they worked and you could trust them.

If people want to play the same way here, that's their own business. If you don't like it, stop them as best you can. That's YOUR ONLY RESPONSIBILITY. Do you honestly believe that giving people shit will remedy this? If you can't stop them, outexploit them. What do you want the exploiters to say? "Oh good for you, you lost but at least you ran 33 unique plays!!! Hooray!! You're obviously the better team then!"

If you want to get mad at anyone, get mad at Bort. This is his creation. This is his primitive game that is still developing and weeding out exploits and unfortunately, he's creating them. Until we reach that point where there are no exploits (not happening, this will never be GLB Beta Utopia), either be the dumbass that knows something works and refuses to do it or be the guy who takes advantage of it and wins. A win is a win is a win, boys. The stubborn refusal to take advantage of a play that is working really well doesn't determine a win on a football field. Winning does.

While I wouldn't have put it that way, a lot of what he says is true.

Let me ask you this though. What do you truly have a problem with in this situation? The fact that I used this play to get a win? The fact that one team using this play might lead to the entire league going to ruin? Or is it just that you're sucking Belfast cock?

Look at it this way. The ONLY person who was ACTUALLY screwed over in this entire escapade was Cherrie and Dublin, who I don't see bitching all over this forum, (although I'm not saying she's not pissed, she's just not whining like a little brat). I said that I wouldn't use it again in other situations, Belfast kept their 2nd seed for the playoffs so all that really happened is that they get 1 more loss on their record. Especially since that loss to us doesn't prove anything about us being a better team or anything.

If it's really just the exploit that you're getting pissed over, get over it, because what's done is done and I don't plan to do it again, blame Bort for not finding a way to stop this shit. If I were to show you 200 different threads about other times someone has exploited this, and you could react this way in each of them, fine, I believe you. But if this is the only real case that you really care about, then all I have to say is to stop sucking Belfast's dick.

EDIT: Oh, and you don't see me or any of us here in Dresden bragging about our win or saying ANYTHING about us being better or something because of this past game. Think about that for a second.

Originally posted by California
Fellas, let's just be honest with ourselves for a second. Let's collectively take a step back............. You can be successful using a balanced offense, sure, but essentially every season... The team that best exploits that season's sim is the team that wins. That's GLB.

Who's the most famous player this season? It's Larry Csonka of the Monmouth Evil Monkeys, the best power back in the game for now. Do you think you should try to be oh so original here this season 8 by making a speed back who you hope will perform on the level of Csonka? Well it can't happen. Sorry. Maybe next season?? But for now, you go with the hot hand. If a guy has a perfect game going? Do you take him out because he's exploiting the other team? If a hockey player scores a hat trick, do you sit him because he's too good??? Of course not.

C'mon guys, if something works, it works. This is a simulation, not a pissing contest. If you know you gain a strategic advantage by doing something, why intentionally not do it? Because you have integrity? Oh wow, this is PRECISELY the place where you should take a moral stand. MY MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE ROLE PLAYING GAME FOOTBALL SIMULATION TEAM WILL NOT BE CAUGHT DEAD RUNNING ONE PLAY! I AM A MAN OF INTEGRITY, CHARACTER AND INGENUITY! I ONLY FIND TRUE GLORY IN RUNNING OFF TACKLE HANDOFFS TO MY FB! GOD BLESS A BALANCED OFFENSE IN WHICH I DO NOT GIVE THE BALL TO MY BEST PLAYER AS MUCH AS I CAN USING A PLAY I KNOW WORKS REALLY REALLY WELL!!! HOW DARE YOU USE A PLAY THAT IS WORKING TOO WELL!! ARE YOU NOT A MAN! COME WITH ME AND PASS THE BALL TO YOUR WR! SURE THE QB HAS A 51% COMPLETION PERCENTAGE AND THE WR IS AVERAGING 1.2 YAC, BUT AT LEAST YOU'LL BE A REAL MAN!!!!

Give me a break kids. When we all played madden on sega and super nintendo, did you truly use the whole playbook? Did you sincerely use the full playbook? That's where this game is at in terms of offensive playcalling. C'mon fellas, be honest with yourselves. You found a few good plays that you liked and you ran them into the ground. Why? Because they worked and you could trust them.

If people want to play the same way here, that's their own business. If you don't like it, stop them as best you can. That's YOUR ONLY RESPONSIBILITY. Do you honestly believe that giving people shit will remedy this? If you can't stop them, outexploit them. What do you want the exploiters to say? "Oh good for you, you lost but at least you ran 33 unique plays!!! Hooray!! You're obviously the better team then!"

If you want to get mad at anyone, get mad at Bort. This is his creation. This is his primitive game that is still developing and weeding out exploits and unfortunately, he's creating them. Until we reach that point where there are no exploits (not happening, this will never be GLB Beta Utopia), either be the dumbass that knows something works and refuses to do it or be the guy who takes advantage of it and wins. A win is a win is a win, boys. The stubborn refusal to take advantage of a play that is working really well doesn't determine a win on a football field. Winning does.

No responses, guess yall can't handle the truth

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2319838&page=1

Dear above assholes,
you showed your true character over these last three posts. I will not even respond to that garbage. Check this thread out. Look who the fourth person to post is. It looks like a Dresden GM to me. You guys were looking for a glitch to take us a down. Go fuck yourselves! I hope everyone else in this league agrees. And you think Nate is the asshole. For all his shortcomings, would have never pulled this shit. Go ahead and drive all of the good players away. Then you two dumb son of a bitches can play each other and run the same play over and over.