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Originally posted by goldielax25
but the more angry parts of my post were directed more toward the tulsa doom poster, who basically said that zeta players dont count

i look at tulsa and i see matchup advantages for each team in zeta

does krakow have a history of performing well against good defenses? id say yes. does tulsa? id say no. if you take time to analyze these things, certain trends become very visible, and all trends point to the facts that krakow has dominated good teams, beaten great teams, and has shown no discernable weaknesses. tulsa and oslo have dominated no good teams, beaten some very good teams, but have shown certain weaknesses.

my main point is you can tell from a lot of games in alpha that every team in that conference has flaws that are very visible. i do not see flaws in the top zeta teams, the only way to beat them is to beat them at their own game, not by exploiting a matchup.

First off this is a game, and I'm enjoying this part. No anger, just good ribbing. Take it at that.

Secondly I said I ain't respecting you're gawdy Zeta numbers and put the guys I'd like considered from my team out there. Didn't feel it was my place to nominate others

Third before you go claiming fame and saying how Krakow has a history against strong teams you better check the history books my friend. Against common opponents the two match up well "historically", especially if you look at last season.

lastly - I know you rejected my challenge and I know why...but if you want to see what the top 3 in Alpha is like send me one back. I promise we will make sure it doesn't hurt too much.

Originally posted by eastcoastbrian
Originally posted by goldielax25

but the more angry parts of my post were directed more toward the tulsa doom poster, who basically said that zeta players dont count

i look at tulsa and i see matchup advantages for each team in zeta

does krakow have a history of performing well against good defenses? id say yes. does tulsa? id say no. if you take time to analyze these things, certain trends become very visible, and all trends point to the facts that krakow has dominated good teams, beaten great teams, and has shown no discernable weaknesses. tulsa and oslo have dominated no good teams, beaten some very good teams, but have shown certain weaknesses.

my main point is you can tell from a lot of games in alpha that every team in that conference has flaws that are very visible. i do not see flaws in the top zeta teams, the only way to beat them is to beat them at their own game, not by exploiting a matchup.

First off this is a game, and I'm enjoying this part. No anger, just good ribbing. Take it at that.

Secondly I said I ain't respecting you're gawdy Zeta numbers and put the guys I'd like considered from my team out there. Didn't feel it was my place to nominate others

Third before you go claiming fame and saying how Krakow has a history against strong teams you better check the history books my friend. Against common opponents the two match up well "historically", especially if you look at last season.

lastly - I know you rejected my challenge and I know why...but if you want to see what the top 3 in Alpha is like send me one back. I promise we will make sure it doesn't hurt too much.


i have decided to take up your challenge while our schedule is still light, offer sent.

Accepted - this should be fun...

So let's recap, you said Cupp will run for 250 against us....let's hope for his sake Bort hasn't instituted season ending injuries stealthily as were coming for him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO_QntXc-c4&feature=PlayList&p=9C5840896D764F96&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=1

Originally posted by eastcoastbrian
Accepted - this should be fun...

So let's recap, you said Cupp will run for 250 against us....let's hope for his sake Bort hasn't instituted season ending injuries stealthily as were coming for him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO_QntXc-c4&feature=PlayList&p=9C5840896D764F96&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=1

i believe i can safely predict that cupp himself will outrush any two of your backs combined, and that crash will have more broken tackles than any two of your backs combined. and that yes, they will score more touchdowns.

Why not just do a team for each league. It removes the strength of schedule.

As for the rest I will say Cupp and Leary are for real. No one has come close to doing what they did to MCRG.

if the pro bowl was a drink, it would only belong in a cupp..... bahaha. yea im all about cupp

Originally posted by Porch
Why not just do a team for each league. It removes the strength of schedule.

As for the rest I will say Cupp and Leary are for real. No one has come close to doing what they did to MCRG.

i could do that, but there are three reasons i dont do that. firstly, it would just look like my version of a pro bowl ballot. secondly, it is more special i think to be named to an all league team than an all conference one and i think i have done a fair job in the past of getting both conferences involved. thirdly it is very difficult to make just one team like this, let alone two teams, i tried to do an all-pro second team last season and i almost shelved the whole thing because it got to be very annoying finding double the players. ill open up pro bowl voting after week 12 games, and ill post my ballot at least in the zeta one, and probably for alpha too if i find time. ill do all pro and poy's in my end of season review thread, which is by far my biggest of the year, probably on day 31 or 32.

I had done this before. It can get ugly. Just do the rules like this:

1. Make a list of players that you think would be the frontrunners (top 3 in each position)
2. Put out a "Pre poll" list so the owners can see who was chosen, then make a case for their players. Thats how you get the "nominations"
3. Here is the breakdown of nominations:
QB: 6 to choose from, 1 chosen

HB: 6 to choose from, 1 chosen

FB: 6 to choose from, 1 chosen

O-Line: 6 to choose from, 2 chosen (except center). THIS IS A HARD POSITION TO WEIGHT. Basically it comes down to pancakes. SO I take the players with the highest Pancake to Total plays ratio. (pancake percentage)

WRs: 12 to choose from, 3 chosen

TEs: 8 to choose from, 2 chosen (blocking and receiving)

Defense: Based on 4-3

D-Line:
DTs (includes NT): 8 to choose from, 2 chosen
DEs: 8 to choose from, 2 chosen
OLBs: 10 to choose from, 2 chosen. A guy with 98 tackles and 12 forced fumbles may not make the list if he has 54 missed tackles. Make sure to look at those BAD stats.
MLB: 6 to choose from, 1 chosen
CBs: 12 to choose from, 3 chosen. I weigh PDs more than INTs in this respect. High tackles means that he was not covering his man good enough.
FS/SS: 6 to choose from, 1 chosen (for each position).

Kicker/Punter/PR/KR These are self explanatory

Voting Rules:
1. Everyone can vote
2. You can only vote for TWO players from your own team..no matter how many were nominated

Offensive MVP: Person with the most offensive votes
Defensive MVP: Person with most defensive votes
POY: Ussually the position that was UNANIMOUS.

THis is a good guideline

--Dan

^ Great Job!

Originally posted by cam69


So to add a little more to the comparison, Crash and my back (Dirty Dingleberry) were highly comparable back in our old league. We played similar competition, had similar team builds (it was a capped league and we both had the best players we could have at the time), and in the end, had similar stats. We had an respectful argument at the end of the season, and we both had supporters saying one back or the other was the best. So I'll take that as they were very close in skill. As you can see from stats this season, Dirty isn't posting numbers anywhere near that of Crash. Now, I'm making the critical assumption that Crash's agent hasn't been building his player much much better than myself. It that is the case, I should probably retire my back. I can say, that although Dirty isn't the greatest build ever at this point in time, I cannot attribute 6-7 extra YPC to a inferior build since our last league together. Therefore, if you have read this far, my conclusion is that Crash's stats would be greatly similar to that of Dirty's currently if his team were to be in Alpha. Extrapolate those findings to the other 2 backs on the top 3 zeta rusher list, and take from that what you want.


How dare you sir?

I mean really how dare you! how dare you compare the complete domination of crash with any other lesser running back.
since about lvl 10 crash has averaged 10 yards a run. LVL 10! Dirty has never cracked 10 yards per carry for a season let alone his career. While I will admit dingleberry is a pretty good running back, he is a poor man's crash at best, even our head to head matchups have proven that he cannot keep up with crash.

I don't see how you can say that only 3 or so teams in Alpha would make playoffs if they were in Zeta. Outside of the top 3 teams in Zeta,the rest of the teams are nothing special. I think Alpha would have atleast 6 teams maybe more that would make playoffs if they were switched.

Most of the teams in Zeta wouldn't have nearly as good of record if they were in alpha. Alpha is tough this year,like last season. Good teams with good builds just beating up on eachother. That's why the race is so tight right now.

Zeta might have the single best team between the 2 divisions but Alpha is by far the better league.

Originally posted by cptafw163
I had done this before. It can get ugly. Just do the rules like this:

1. Make a list of players that you think would be the frontrunners (top 3 in each position)
2. Put out a "Pre poll" list so the owners can see who was chosen, then make a case for their players. Thats how you get the "nominations"
3. Here is the breakdown of nominations:
QB: 6 to choose from, 1 chosen

HB: 6 to choose from, 1 chosen

FB: 6 to choose from, 1 chosen

O-Line: 6 to choose from, 2 chosen (except center). THIS IS A HARD POSITION TO WEIGHT. Basically it comes down to pancakes. SO I take the players with the highest Pancake to Total plays ratio. (pancake percentage)

WRs: 12 to choose from, 3 chosen

TEs: 8 to choose from, 2 chosen (blocking and receiving)

Defense: Based on 4-3

D-Line:
DTs (includes NT): 8 to choose from, 2 chosen
DEs: 8 to choose from, 2 chosen
OLBs: 10 to choose from, 2 chosen. A guy with 98 tackles and 12 forced fumbles may not make the list if he has 54 missed tackles. Make sure to look at those BAD stats.
MLB: 6 to choose from, 1 chosen
CBs: 12 to choose from, 3 chosen. I weigh PDs more than INTs in this respect. High tackles means that he was not covering his man good enough.
FS/SS: 6 to choose from, 1 chosen (for each position).

Kicker/Punter/PR/KR These are self explanatory

Voting Rules:
1. Everyone can vote
2. You can only vote for TWO players from your own team..no matter how many were nominated

Offensive MVP: Person with the most offensive votes
Defensive MVP: Person with most defensive votes
POY: Ussually the position that was UNANIMOUS.

THis is a good guideline

--Dan

Are both leagues combined or are we going to pick the top 3 in each position from both leagues?

Originally posted by PRUETER
I don't see how you can say that only 3 or so teams in Alpha would make playoffs if they were in Zeta. Outside of the top 3 teams in Zeta,the rest of the teams are nothing special. I think Alpha would have atleast 6 teams maybe more that would make playoffs if they were switched.

Most of the teams in Zeta wouldn't have nearly as good of record if they were in alpha. Alpha is tough this year,like last season. Good teams with good builds just beating up on eachother. That's why the race is so tight right now.

Zeta might have the single best team between the 2 divisions but Alpha is by far the better league.

i know alpha is the better conference. but there is no foundation for a lot of the zeta hate, because its top teams are the top teams in the entire league. i figure if the leagues were combined, it would be something like krakow lyon jacksonville red lights and oslo fighting it out for the top four, and magic dragons newark barcelona stockholm tulsa fighting for the rest of the playoff spots.

Never been a big fan of ProBowl Voting IRL or on here, there's just way to many variables to truly get a good measure, at best you get the fans favorite.

for example who says the Best ball handling FB allways gets the nod over the best blocking FB, and thats not right. It takes a ton of work to end up with a List No One will agree to.

you know how stupid you fuckers look, you are fighting over whos lvl 50 players are the best in a league meant for lvl 30 players.

Not 1 of your players could wash any of MC players's balls. For what level we are, There is no reason for us to have any wins, and we are looking at the playoffs.

Take your level 40 and 50 players and get the fuck out of here. If any of them were good builds, they just wouldnt be here, simple as that.