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also i have to say the standard of promotees doesnt seem as high this year, though i hope to be proved wrong

also, what are people's opinions on team names? personally i dont mind of people cant think up a real european city, but having an american city kills the mood a bit for me.
 
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Hey everyone - Looks like the Las Vegas Thunder got promoted. I would like to say that I'm excited like the Berlin Widowmakers but it looks like we have a lot of work to do to stay competitive. Anyway I guess I will take my lumps - Good Luck to eveyone in season 8 - and remember take it easy on the new guys.
 
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2 seasons here and now moving up. So long guys.
 
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Originally posted by skatingtprtoise
Originally posted by LionsFanNCali

Awwwschwitz! You found this place too already!? G'damn it! I can't get you're dog ass off my leg! Stop trying to dry hump me kenny, bad dog!


if this and your avatar are bothe deliberate, you will find friends scarce among europeans. just saying. other than that, when you going to get a kicker?


Yep, the Awwwwschwitz was delitberate! I love to stir the pot! As far as the avatar, it's my teams avatar, and its perfectly fine. Know you're history before dogging on the Eagle and the So called Swastika that most ignorant(NO I DONT MEAN YOU) people would find there. Matter of fact, I will post on it for people to read:

"The swastika is an ancient symbol that has been used for over 3,000 years. (That even predates the ancient Egyptian symbol, the Ankh!) Artifacts such as pottery and coins from ancient Troy show that the swastika was a commonly used symbol as far back as 1000 BCE.

During the following thousand years, the image of the swastika was used by many cultures around the world, including in China, Japan, India, and southern Europe. By the Middle Ages, the swastika was a well known, if not commonly used, symbol but was called by many different names:

* China - wan
* England - fylfot
* Germany - Hakenkreuz
* Greece - tetraskelion and gammadion
* India - swastika

Though it is not known for exactly how long, Native Americans also have long used the symbol of the swastika.

The Original Meaning

The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix.

Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck.

Even in the early twentieth century, the swastika was still a symbol with positive connotations. For instance, the swastika was a common decoration that often adorned cigarette cases, postcards, coins, and buildings. During World War I, the swastika could even be found on the shoulder patches of the American 45th Division and on the Finnish air force until after World War II.

A Change in Meaning

In the 1800s, countries around Germany were growing much larger, forming empires; yet Germany was not a unified country until 1871. To counter the feeling of vulnerability and the stigma of youth, German nationalists in the mid-nineteenth century began to use the swastika, because it had ancient Aryan/Indian origins, to represent a long Germanic/Aryan history.

By the end of the nineteenth century, the swastika could be found on nationalist German volkisch periodicals and was the official emblem of the German Gymnasts' League.

In the beginning of the twentieth century, the swastika was a common symbol of German nationalism and could be found in a multitude of places such as the emblem for the Wandervogel, a German youth movement; on Joerg Lanz von Liebenfels' antisemitic periodical Ostara; on various Freikorps units; and as an emblem of the Thule Society.

Hitler and the Nazis

In 1920, Adolf Hitler decided that the Nazi Party needed its own insignia and flag. For Hitler, the new flag had to be "a symbol of our own struggle" as well as "highly effective as a poster." (Mein Kampf, pg. 495)

On August 7, 1920, at the Salzburg Congress, this flag became the official emblem of the Nazi Party.

In Mein Kampf, Hitler described the Nazis' new flag: "In red we see the social idea of the movement, in white the nationalistic idea, in the swastika the mission of the struggle for the victory of the Aryan man, and, by the same token, the victory of the idea of creative work, which as such always has been and always will be anti-Semitic." (pg. 496-497)

Because of the Nazis' flag, the swastika soon became a symbol of hate, antisemitism, violence, death, and murder."

 
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Originally posted by skatingtprtoise
also i have to say the standard of promotees doesnt seem as high this year, though i hope to be proved wrong



Oh believe me, you will be!
 
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37 game win streak huh,

Welcome to Alpha Widowmakers.
 
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Originally posted by badkarma
37 game win streak huh,

Welcome to Alpha Widowmakers.


Glad to be here! Thanks for the Welcome!
 
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We're all cut from the same cloth as the Huskies, Stampede, Bulldogs, Widowmakers, Assasains, Thunder, we the Ocho representatives! Hoping for a hella of a season with you guys!
 
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Originally posted by Wrian Bestbrook
We're all cut from the same cloth as the Huskies, Stampede, Bulldogs, Widowmakers, Assasains, Thunder, we the Ocho representatives! Hoping for a hella of a season with you guys!


shit wrian we at the bulldog camp are just hoping to make playoffs against this stacked conference.
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Originally posted by kenny6858
Originally posted by Wrian Bestbrook

We're all cut from the same cloth as the Huskies, Stampede, Bulldogs, Widowmakers, Assasains, Thunder, we the Ocho representatives! Hoping for a hella of a season with you guys!


shit wrian we at the bulldog camp are just hoping to make playoffs against this stacked conference.


Suck some more dick Kenny! Widowmakers plan on winning it all again, don't plan on kissing no one's asses on our way either!
 
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have fun getting your win streak snapped ya homo. get ya some of the dawgs this year. we got more than 3 cb's now
 
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Originally posted by LionsFanNCali
Originally posted by skatingtprtoise

Originally posted by LionsFanNCali


Awwwschwitz! You found this place too already!? G'damn it! I can't get you're dog ass off my leg! Stop trying to dry hump me kenny, bad dog!


if this and your avatar are bothe deliberate, you will find friends scarce among europeans. just saying. other than that, when you going to get a kicker?


Yep, the Awwwwschwitz was delitberate! I love to stir the pot! As far as the avatar, it's my teams avatar, and its perfectly fine. Know you're history before dogging on the Eagle and the So called Swastika that most ignorant(NO I DONT MEAN YOU) people would find there. Matter of fact, I will post on it for people to read:
tory of the idea of creative work, which as such always has been and always will be anti-Semitic." (pg. 496-497)

Because of the Nazis' flag, the swastika soon became a symbol of hate, antisemitism, violence, death, and murder."



im well aware of all this, but i still think its in bad taste. in the same line of thinking how bout i change my avatar to the smoking ruins of the twin towers? that was pretty funny right, i enjoy making light of that.

also well done on quoting someone else for your argument.

in any case i hope it wasnt one of your grandparents that was stripped naked, forced into a gas chamber to spend your last 2 minutes of life fighting with your family to stay alive for another precious few seconds.

the swastika isnt a nazi symbol, but your avatar is. you worry me.
 
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Its a game, get over yourself! And didn't I put it in quotes for you to understand the post, I tried to be reasonable with you by finding that! Go ahead, put twin towers in your avatar, ask me if I care what YOU do, because I don't. Im not for what was done in the past, it was wrong in the worse ways possible for anyone to be put through. Sorry it left a bad taste in you're mouth if that makes you feel any better. Not here to drag up historical issues, but I'm not going to apologize for a sweet looking avatar! You gotta admit, it does look pretty evil huh? Also, Mr. History, look quite a ways back for that Eagle, and remember that it was used by the Roman Legion's as it was carried into battle. We can go round and round, back and forth, and all you'll have is what the Nazi's did to support you're argument! I for one say we both just drop it, but we can continue if you like! I love great debates! And yes, you worry me also!
 
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Originally posted by kenny6858
have fun getting your win streak snapped ya homo. get ya some of the dawgs this year. we got more than 3 cb's now


Its a possibility, all great things must come to an end, but alas, it will be a battle!!
 
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as long as you know you are offending a very large amount of people. no skin off my back chum. oh wait yes, youre doing because it will offend people.

as for the avatar having nothing to do with it, you said earlier it was deliberate, so dont give me the 'it was used before' excuse. im not the one who started talking about swastikas.

id debate this, but as i see it theres no debate. if you want to be openly offensive its your problem.

we have plenty of vocal and abrasive people in this league already (and have seen some go) but all of them know where to draw the line.

im not trying to force you to change, i know people like you dont change. just making sure you know people dont tolerate nazis in europe

edit: sorry, youve lost all credibility with me. one of your players has an SS helmet as an avatar. no debate here. if youre not a right winger yourself you obviously have a very tasteless sense of humour.
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