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cwcapper
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Originally posted by Unforgivable395
point #2

against the warriors

Sassa had 19 carries 135.5 yards 7.1 avg 2TD 1

while his opponent had 20 yards. Back up or not his AI was clearly set to not include a running game. They are the ones who decided to pass, pass, pass because they got out to the early lead and they still passed like crazy. Chris got 90% of the touches where Sassa got maybe 45%. Sassa is the reason the knights had the record they did while the Warriors could easily do with out a run game against shitty teams. MYP is most valuable not "best numbers against worst 2 opponents last 2 games of the season,:

Hell the Warriors had a WR who was pretty fucking good how about they advertise him for mvp.....


I actually have to thank you for bringing this up. You exposed something in our defense that has since been fixed.
 
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Point #2 against NuvaNut....

LiL Wyte

1014 yards and 29 TD's


Sassa

1182 total yrds 27 TD's.

Looks like they too got their stats in those games. This was just against Toronto and Alberta.

Now to my final point. I know that we have complained about Chris Cappello not being in, but you beat us when you got the chance. You couldn't help the fact that we were messing around with our depth charts. My guys can say what they want to, but you proved it on the field. Until we do it where it counts, we don't have a leg to stand on.
 
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Originally posted by Unforgivable395
hey Sassa is backup. No way around it. If he was the only back his numbers would be WAAAAYYY more than Chris's. But i guess that is the same non tangible argument u keep making with the whole "chirs didnt play against the knights: thing. the fact is he didnt and when he did he didnt do shit. I can tell u right now lil wyte is our goal line back so the fact that he got 80 TDs as our #2 back is fucking incredible. No ifs ands or buts about it Sassa is the MVP.

Also i would like to point out that Chris literally got over 1/3 of his rushing yards and about 25% of his TDs against the 2 worst/ gutted teams in the WC. Something like 1200 yards 19 TDs in those 2 games. No doubt about it the real MVP is Sassa


Dude what part of Cappello and Sassa had the exact same touches don't you understand??

Just listen to how stupid your comment is. "If Sassa had more touches his numbers would be wayyyyyyyyyy more " No shit sherlock. The fact is when given the same amount of touches Cappello is better get over it..

Who cares about rushes we pass Cappello is the most diverse back in the league.

I can't wait for the second round.. Sassa is Cappello's bitch. Get used to it..

 
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Originally posted by Unforgivable395
point #2

against the warriors

Sassa had 19 carries 135.5 yards 7.1 avg 2TD 1

while his opponent had 20 yards. Back up or not his AI was clearly set to not include a running game. They are the ones who decided to pass, pass, pass because they got out to the early lead and they still passed like crazy. Chris got 90% of the touches where Sassa got maybe 45%. Sassa is the reason the knights had the record they did while the Warriors could easily do with out a run game against shitty teams. MYP is most valuable not "best numbers against worst 2 opponents last 2 games of the season,:

Hell the Warriors had a WR who was pretty fucking good how about they advertise him for mvp.....


Cappello had 6 touches in the Nuva game.

I can't wait from him to destroy you in the second round.

BTW, What the hell is the MYP??
 
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Originally posted by crowbar832001
Originally posted by Unforgivable395

Hell the Warriors had a WR who was pretty fucking good how about they advertise him for mvp.....


I agree with this statement. Waterboy was by far head and shoulders the best player I seen this season. Cap could not hold Waterboys jock. Waterboy was the team MVP and IMHO the league MVP. I would rather face Cap every game all season than have to face Waterboy once more.


Wow I don't know what to say to that but thanks for the props. And if you guys would believe it, he was not set as a favorite receiver. I also think waterboy has a shitty build with too many SA's but thats just me. I don't think anyone would want to see waterboy V2 now that I know how to build a WR
 
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Chris Cap 274 Rush, 2,991.5yds; 78 Rec, 1,462.5yds; 92 TD (73 Rushing, 19 Receiving)
Waterboy 000 Rush, 0,000.0yds, 118 Rec, 2,375yds, 39 TD

I still think Chris overshadows me by a long shot, and yes those take into account the 2 gutted teams.
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I don't mind endorsing Waterboy as the MVP. He is a beast.
 
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What do you think Waterboy vs http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=366147
 
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Waterboy
Rec Yds Y/G Avg YAC TD KR Yds Avg TD PR Yds Avg TD Fumb FumbL
118 2,375 148.4 20.1 10 39 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Tina

Rec Yds Y/G Avg YAC TD KR Yds Avg TD PR Yds Avg TD Fumb FumbL
141 2,520.5 157.5 17.9 6.7 37 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0


The numbers are very close. You have more Total yards, and yards per game, Which should be pretty standard for the 23 extra touches. Waterboy has a little higher average per reception and Yards after catch, and a couple more touchdowns. It is really a tough call to make imo on who is "MVP"

IMO, which is obviously biased due to waterboy being my player, but I would have to give it to Waterboy. With more receptions, given Waterboy's performance over the year, he would have probably more total yardage but maybe not yards per game. Performances by both receivers this year has been incredible. Waterboy and Chris have been instrumental to the Warriors success this year, as is Tina with his team.

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Just a little cross multiplication here

141
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2520.5

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118
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X

141X=297,419

X=2109.35

2109 would be the average yards Tina would have gained with 118 catches instead of 141. The math is simplistic but its a proper ratio.
 
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I think they are diff types of receiver. Tina is a possession receiver and Waterboy looks more a speedster. Both had amazing seasons.
 
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Also Tina had 2 drops in 141 catches and Waterboy had 8 in 118.

But again, its close
 
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Tina - MVP - waterboy ended the season playing a 36 team. 216 yards 5 tds
 
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Originally posted by crowbar832001
Originally posted by Garry

Originally posted by crowbar832001



OK what stats should the Eastern Conference take out? After Twin Peaks I think 7 maybe 8 teams from the west can come in and beat the other 15. I'm not attacking anybody that is just how I feel. The playoff teams in the West are much tougher. Twin Peaks has a cake walk to a conference title. I really feel bad for some of those teams in the east because some will get promoted to AA and none of them will be ready. I think 4 teams only are ready for AA right now (Twin Peaks, Northern, Whistler, and NuvaNut). BTW I know it was the first game of the season and everybody has excuses why it happened, but my 7th place western team but the 3rd place (maybe 2nd place eastern team).


We were at 40 chem... But, all right; no excuses...

Originally posted by crowbar832001


I am not trying to be a dick but if anybody wants to battle this from the east I am willing to schedule scrims to back up my words.


Friendly offer sent...


accepted. It should be a good game. Our Chem was around 60 for that first game.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=358036 It was a nice game crowbar. Good luck tonite!!
 
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hehe thanks OC, they were talking more West MVP (we are in the East) I was just seeing how people thought of those 2.

Originally posted by tac99us
Tina - MVP - waterboy ended the season playing a 36 team. 216 yards 5 tds


 
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Actually waterboy is a possession receiver but has a lot of speed/agil as well
 
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