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Originally posted by davitrav30
Originally posted by Sir William PD

Originally posted by Jakemall


We give up 10 points to the #5 offense and our D rating goes down again? Hmmm


It's not a perfect system yet please be patient. You can check out his math formulas if you have the time. I'm not happy about our D being #3 by any means. He'll tweak it more as the season goes.


Its not a perfect system ... but ... every team is being ranked by the EXACT same formula ! Hows them apples ?

Your right.

And because other people played weaker offenses, they surpassed you in a few statistical categories.

Please see my previous explanation.
Originally posted by Stickman
Originally posted by Jakemall

We give up 10 points to the #5 offense and our D rating goes down again? Hmmm

That's a great performance. I wish I could reward that more in the rankings. But the way the stats are laid out on the GLB website, there is not a way to include single game stats without adding a lot of extra work for me. And I just don't have that much time to do that.

And since points aren't the only thing counted in my D rankings, you probably didn't improve enough to keep pace with other teams this week.
You only got 1 hurry and no sacks this week, so you lost some points in the Def ranking there. Moving from 11 to 15th and 8th to 11th respectively.

You did pick up 3 more ints, but that only moved you from 3rd to 2nd.

The total yardage that you give up per game went up by almost 20 yards, that dropped you a few spots.

Because you played a really tough team, then you didn't end up with as good of stats as you had been putting up. You are ranked 26th in my strength of schedule component, so maybe you're defense was overranked previously.

I don't know for sure, but these are some things that I see that could help explain what's going on.

I'll keep this in mind as I'm working on the new ranking system to see if there's a way to account for this type of thing.

Thanks,
StickMan

Thanks,
StickMan

Originally posted by Stickman
Yeah, just like I mentioned in the first post today, with the rankings.... So that's already been noted. And your D did move up a spot from 8th last week.

Thanks,
StickMan

Well, that was after dropping 2 places even though we held one of the most powerful offensive teams to 14. IMO we should be in the top 5 at least.

I would like to thank Stickman for giving us something that will motivate the hell out of our teams on the 17th. One suggestion, can you put more weight on loses. Early on in a season, no one loss team should be above undefeated teams no matter who they play.

Originally posted by cwcapper
One suggestion, can you put more weight on loses. Early on in a season, no one loss team should be above undefeated teams no matter who they play.

That's a good suggestion. Thanks.

The fact that it's easy to implement makes it all the better!

Originally posted by cwcapper
I would like to thank Stickman for giving us something that will motivate the hell out of our teams on the 17th.

Oh, I can't take all the credit here. I may have tossed a box of matches out and left the wood pile and the gas cans laying around, but there are most certainly others who've helped....lol

I'm glad you're using the rankings for the power of good though....hehe

Thanks,
StickMan

Originally posted by IHasUsername
Originally posted by Stickman

Yeah, just like I mentioned in the first post today, with the rankings.... So that's already been noted. And your D did move up a spot from 8th last week.

Thanks,
StickMan

Well, that was after dropping 2 places even though we held one of the most powerful offensive teams to 14. IMO we should be in the top 5 at least.

I don't know what else to tell you. The numbers are essentially an average of your past performances compared to the average performances of every other team. And, while your averages improved this week with a win, other peoples averages improved more than yours (likely from playing weaker teams), and your opponent, even with the loss to you, didn't have his averages go down enough to put you past him.

I suppose this speaks to the success of your coaching staff that you were able to beat a team ranked higher in the power rankings. That's just something that I can't quantify.

Thanks,
StickMan

Really StickMan, thanks. Your hard work is appreciated.

Originally posted by cwcapper
I would like to thank Stickman for giving us something that will motivate the hell out of our teams on the 17th. One suggestion, can you put more weight on loses. Early on in a season, no one loss team should be above undefeated teams no matter who they play.

Kinda disagree with that. If you're the 4th best team in terms of talent and GMs and you have a schedule that has you play the #1,2 and 3 teams... you're gonna look like a last place team...till you play all the other teams..you're only fooling yourself if you think this #4 team is weaker than some above average team with an easy SOS.

First of all Stickman I love your ratings and i hope you keep them up, but all ass-kissing aside i really think you made a mistake with OKC. They absolutely handed our asses to us and we're not a bad team (were 12 now 15 -_-).

Appreciate the rankings and the work that goes into it.

Originally posted by Thom Yorke
First of all Stickman I love your ratings and i hope you keep them up, but all ass-kissing aside i really think you made a mistake with OKC. They absolutely handed our asses to us and we're not a bad team (were 12 now 15 -_-).

Fair enough. Maybe this is indicative of something that needs tweaking in the formula. I'll look into it.

Thanks,
StickMan

Oh and just to clear some things up, there was a typo in my previous statement that may have changed the meaning, the "not" should be a "now". I edited it already but just in case someone sees the quote.

Originally posted by Stickman
Originally posted by IHasUsername

Originally posted by Stickman


Yeah, just like I mentioned in the first post today, with the rankings.... So that's already been noted. And your D did move up a spot from 8th last week.

Thanks,
StickMan

Well, that was after dropping 2 places even though we held one of the most powerful offensive teams to 14. IMO we should be in the top 5 at least.

I don't know what else to tell you. The numbers are essentially an average of your past performances compared to the average performances of every other team. And, while your averages improved this week with a win, other peoples averages improved more than yours (likely from playing weaker teams), and your opponent, even with the loss to you, didn't have his averages go down enough to put you past him.

I suppose this speaks to the success of your coaching staff that you were able to beat a team ranked higher in the power rankings. That's just something that I can't quantify.

Thanks,
StickMan

I know what to tell him. IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS and it is an average. One great game doest not make up for a poor game, ie. the windsor game. At this point in the season 14pts is alot to give up if you are or think you are one of the top d in the league. The ranking put these together and make it into two average games, or compaired to the other D, two below average games and that hurt you.

I haven't looked to hard, but you have two losses and the teams above you in D don't. The bottom line is, if you lose, you are going to drop in the ranking. If you don't, you probly lost alot of ground to the teams behind you. The top third of the rankings won't change alot if the teams are all still winning. If you have as good of a team as you appear to have, for you have played the top two teams in you conference, you just have to stay consistant with your d and you will move up. You happen to have a harder schedule to start out, but you are still in good shape and can move up.

Also, the close games might be determined by the human aspect of the game and one guy out coaching the other. It is early in the season and some stats are inflated right now. I don't know if stickman posted it here or somewhere else, but it will be interesting to see how close his ranking are at the end of the season and playoffs.

Thanks,
Stickman's complaint Department

The battle for second and third should be settled very soon. I am really looking forward to this game.

FT. Campbell Rangers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just an impartial thought.

lol. Go Rangers. I have no idea how your system works but thanks for putting in time for this league.

You probably need to sort out how an 0-7 team gets ranked above a 2-5 team. I won't argue about which undefeated team is better than which, but that is clearly screwy!

Keep plugging away. You'll get the formula right.