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Vando
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Originally posted by valakar
Like for QB I think completion %, QB rating, TD versus Int ratio should all play into it not just total passing yards and TD's (not picking on that spot just saying there are situations and the 'unknown' stats like this for each position).


Lobbins agrees with this.
 
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Oh and also take into account underlevelled players punching above their weight
 
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MEKO FOUNTAIN FOR MOST IMPROVED!
 
Vando
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Fountain:

4 16 68.2 265 438 60.5 2,230 139.4 5.1 9 13 8 13 -33 -2.1 -2.5 0 0 0

Lobbins:

4 16 66.8 416 672 61.9 3,893.5 243.3 5.8 9 25 20 21 -85.5 -5.3 -4.1 0 0 0

Lobbins for most improved. Lollookatdempicks!
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Where's my FB place at?
 
valakar
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Originally posted by Vando
Fountain:

4 16 68.2 265 438 60.5 2,230 139.4 5.1 9 13 8 13 -33 -2.1 -2.5 0 0 0

Lobbins:

4 16 66.8 416 672 61.9 3,893.5 243.3 5.8 9 25 20 21 -85.5 -5.3 -4.1 0 0 0

Lobbins for most improved. Lollookatdempicks!


Actually if we are talking about most improved QB it is Turd Ferg by far the most improved.

4 16 61 107 204 52.5 1,122.5 70.2 5.5 4 7 3 3 -13.5 -0.8 -4.5 0 0 0
5 12 112 356 500 71.2 4,110 342.5 8.2 27 2 16 22 -73.5 -6.1 -3.3 0 0 0

I also want to point out the 27 TD's to only 2 Ints. Yes this is an early plug for one of our guys!
 
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and how much of that is due to gutted teams up the ass in this league?!
 
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Originally posted by Tiznut
and how much of that is due to gutted teams up the ass in this league?!


And since everyone gets the same gutted teams (almost), it evens out, doesn't it?
Now Antwerp got lucky; they played Amsterdam before they spent some money.
 
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Originally posted by Talon
Originally posted by Tiznut

and how much of that is due to gutted teams up the ass in this league?!


And since everyone gets the same gutted teams (almost), it evens out, doesn't it?
Now Antwerp got lucky; they played Amsterdam before they spent some money.


Nope it doesn't even out, as you say some teams get to play the gutted teams before they make roster changes but if you want to celebrat stats against mediocre competition that's great...Glad you've enjoyed playing just enough to be considered hot garbage....
 
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Originally posted by Tiznut
and how much of that is due to gutted teams up the ass in this league?!


Well honestly not much. Valencia is the only team to have played all the top teams already. Most of our gutted/rebuilding games are still to come. I agree the overall competition from top to bottom is worse but that is not the only reason our QB has improved. All teams in both conferences are dealing with the same thing so we have to do what we can until things get realigned or whatever is going to happen with that.
 
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Originally posted by Tiznut
Originally posted by Talon

Originally posted by Tiznut


and how much of that is due to gutted teams up the ass in this league?!


And since everyone gets the same gutted teams (almost), it evens out, doesn't it?
Now Antwerp got lucky; they played Amsterdam before they spent some money.


Nope it doesn't even out, as you say some teams get to play the gutted teams before they make roster changes but if you want to celebrat stats against mediocre competition that's great...Glad you've enjoyed playing just enough to be considered hot garbage....


Who is celebrating. If we are going to vote on all stars then we have to act within the parameters we have in front of us. Not every voter is going to take the time to calculate stats for each position in only the meaningful games. Not sure what you are trying to say with this statement.... "Glad you've enjoyed playing just enough to be considered hot garbage...." Are you saying Valencia is hot garbage or the teams we have played and got our stats against is hot garbage? The reason I am asking is we have played both Quebec and Antwerp which most would consider two of the top teams. You have not played Quebec yet. Furthermore we have already played all teams in top 10 in Zeta (except Dresden).

Neither myself nor Talon (I think) were trying to start any argument about whose stats are more worthy and obviously the reduction in talent overall in Zeta casts a shadow on things but that could be said about any conference in any league and any player's stats (for the most part).
 
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finally something got Zeta going, on these forums
 
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Ok, let's try to have the ballots in by Friday night which will give us two more games to look at performances. Only 1 vote per team will be taken into account. PM them to me and as usual i'll tally em up ASAP and get votes posted.

Please use this format as it will save me tons of time:

QB1 First Last Team Name
QB2 First Last Team Name
RB1 etc...

We will do a first and second team again and let's do 2 RBs and 3 WRs for each team just as we did last season. Also include a KR and PR. We can do offensive and defensive MVPs but that can be done easier in a different thread.

If you want to vote please be an owner or team GM and we'll try to get as even of a mixture between Zeta and Alpha as we can. Please post here and let me know who's going to be participating.
 
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I will participate (Owner of Valencia). Saturday sometime is more likely for me but will try to get it Friday if possible.
 
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I'll give it a shot this year (unless Bama wants to instead). So what is it, first and second team both including the entire league? I know you said before that you don't want to do separate teams for each conference since it would be double the teams, but what about just one team for each conference. It would be the same number of teams and players while allowing the voters to do their own conference. Just letting me opinion be heard, I'll participate either way
 
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