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Originally posted by Catullus 16
the idea here isn't to give everyone their pretty pony and their castle in the sky... it's to come up with a structural solution to preclude any complaints. the existence of a CPL-free GG forum means that no one can ever complain about the CPL ever again... sounds win-win to me.

Except, since their forum is dead, they complain that the non-GG forum is active, and if they post there, they get flamed. Most of the complaints aren't because they dislike the forum, it is because they dislike other people having fun and want it taken away...regardless if they have a GG forum or not.

Originally posted by Gturtle
Of course, considering most outsiders consider CPL to be "/b/-lite" or "FFA-lite" than I can say safely that I don't mind that they hate us, as long as we're allowed to keep on trucking.

well... that's somewhat the effect of being closer to the subject -- you see the granularity in things. kind of like how only a wine snob would insist that a vinho verde really isn't a white wine.

the perception of the CPL as equivalent to FFA or even /b/ is still a valid perception, no matter how wrong it technically is.

Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Deathblade
lol @ CPL being the "end game" of trolling.

More misconceptions shared by a LOT of people. CPL doesn't inherently hate all outsiders. CPL generally shares the "don't care" regarding most people outside of CPL. People really start their posting on a blank slate, since most users really don't give a damn. Taking yourself really serious, and having an inflated ego from recently winning an AAA championship, and carrying it over into CPL will take you into the "negatives". Posting an innocent GG or "We're in CPL now" thread will keep you pretty neutral, thus, they usually don't really get flamed.
And yes, becoming liked by a community is what happens when you join a new league's forum and try to have a good time. A lot of other league forums have people they can't stand...actually, most league forums that I've seen have 2-3 users that everyone dislikes, and speaks to condescendingly, while making snarky remarks about their dotballing abilities.
looks like you fundamentally misunderstood me.
let me be clear -- i'm not saying anyone in the CPL is trolling. i'm not even saying the forum itself fosters an environment of trolling.
i'm certainly not saying that the CPL "hates all outsiders", etc. in fact, i'm saying the exact opposite.
But you haven't explained why that necessitates your suggestions or a punishment of CPL or justifies the shitmodding tha thas happened.

"You there, Jimmy, Johnny, Catherine, you look really happy"

"Yeah, we're enjoying ourselves"

"Well, Shelby isn't, and the fact that you are and she isn't makes her feel bad, so I'm going to kill your parents"

?

I mean hell, even His High Holy Emperor, Lord Darkus "The Moderator" Black has tried (and failed miserably) to insult me, inside of CPL.

The fact that he later returns and causes this shit storm is not lost on me, by the way.

Originally posted by Asheme
Oh sweet mercy this thread exploded.

I'm assuming cat responded to every post individually?

Also a factor of me having no agenda for the day and not having access to other forums right now.

The other thing I'd be doing right now is setting up my tactic and build advice for the octopi.

And obviously arguing takes precedence over dots.

Cat, is the devil's advocate thing about done here? A GG Forum isn't going to do anything. CPL posters aren't going to stop being CPL posters.

Originally posted by Deathblade
Also, just wanted to point out that I touch myself. I honestly do.

i don't want anybody else
when i think about you

Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Gturtle

Of course, considering most outsiders consider CPL to be "/b/-lite" or "FFA-lite" than I can say safely that I don't mind that they hate us, as long as we're allowed to keep on trucking.

well... that's somewhat the effect of being closer to the subject -- you see the granularity in things. kind of like how only a wine snob would insist that a vinho verde really isn't a white wine.

the perception of the CPL as equivalent to FFA or even /b/ is still a valid perception, no matter how wrong it technically is.

It's a valid perception in the sense that somebody who speaks neither czechoslovakian nor polish could confuse the two. That is to say, it's an ignorant and incorrect perception

Originally posted by Gturtle
Originally posted by Catullus 16

Originally posted by Gturtle


Of course, considering most outsiders consider CPL to be "/b/-lite" or "FFA-lite" than I can say safely that I don't mind that they hate us, as long as we're allowed to keep on trucking.

well... that's somewhat the effect of being closer to the subject -- you see the granularity in things. kind of like how only a wine snob would insist that a vinho verde really isn't a white wine.

the perception of the CPL as equivalent to FFA or even /b/ is still a valid perception, no matter how wrong it technically is.

It's a valid perception in the sense that somebody who speaks neither czechoslovakian nor polish could confuse the two. That is to say, it's an ignorant and incorrect perception

no such thing as czechoslovakia ldo

Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams
I do notice that!
you Made a point
fixed.
still waiting for it.
Originally posted by Catullus 16
so... mods that agree with you = awesome and mods that disagree with you = terrible, power-hungry, and unprofessional?
that sounds like a challenge (or even a claim), but it's not. i'm just point out that it doesn't stand as a good argument. that's all.
....Feudel? Is taht you?

oh come on.

how many times do i have to say that i'm not saying that you're wrong? i'm just waiting for a better argument for why these "terrible fucking mods" are terrible, power-hungry, and unprofessional.

all you've given me so far is an argument by assertion, which is hardly convincing.

Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams

Originally posted by Catullus 16

Originally posted by Deathblade

lol @ CPL being the "end game" of trolling.

More misconceptions shared by a LOT of people. CPL doesn't inherently hate all outsiders. CPL generally shares the "don't care" regarding most people outside of CPL. People really start their posting on a blank slate, since most users really don't give a damn. Taking yourself really serious, and having an inflated ego from recently winning an AAA championship, and carrying it over into CPL will take you into the "negatives". Posting an innocent GG or "We're in CPL now" thread will keep you pretty neutral, thus, they usually don't really get flamed.
And yes, becoming liked by a community is what happens when you join a new league's forum and try to have a good time. A lot of other league forums have people they can't stand...actually, most league forums that I've seen have 2-3 users that everyone dislikes, and speaks to condescendingly, while making snarky remarks about their dotballing abilities.
looks like you fundamentally misunderstood me.
let me be clear -- i'm not saying anyone in the CPL is trolling. i'm not even saying the forum itself fosters an environment of trolling.
i'm certainly not saying that the CPL "hates all outsiders", etc. in fact, i'm saying the exact opposite.
But you haven't explained why that necessitates your suggestions or a punishment of CPL or justifies the shitmodding tha thas happened.

"You there, Jimmy, Johnny, Catherine, you look really happy"

"Yeah, we're enjoying ourselves"

"Well, Shelby isn't, and the fact that you are and she isn't makes her feel bad, so I'm going to kill your parents"

?

....

see:

Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by Catullus 16

the idea here isn't to give everyone their pretty pony and their castle in the sky... it's to come up with a structural solution to preclude any complaints. the existence of a CPL-free GG forum means that no one can ever complain about the CPL ever again... sounds win-win to me.

Except, since their forum is dead, they complain that the non-GG forum is active, and if they post there, they get flamed. Most of the complaints aren't because they dislike the forum, it is because they dislike other people having fun and want it taken away...regardless if they have a GG forum or not.

Originally posted by Gturtle
God dammit Catullus and AD, stop trolling each other.

another structural effect.

it's like a head-on train collision.

Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Gturtle

Originally posted by Catullus 16


Originally posted by Gturtle



Of course, considering most outsiders consider CPL to be "/b/-lite" or "FFA-lite" than I can say safely that I don't mind that they hate us, as long as we're allowed to keep on trucking.

well... that's somewhat the effect of being closer to the subject -- you see the granularity in things. kind of like how only a wine snob would insist that a vinho verde really isn't a white wine.

the perception of the CPL as equivalent to FFA or even /b/ is still a valid perception, no matter how wrong it technically is.

It's a valid perception in the sense that somebody who speaks neither czechoslovakian nor polish could confuse the two. That is to say, it's an ignorant and incorrect perception

no such thing as czechoslovakia ldo


I debated doing czech versus slovak, but let's face it- those are about as different as portugese and spanish.

Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by Catullus 16
although the next step is to say that anyone conscious of this structure can't complain about inevitable results.
But we already know the outcomes...which is a dead forum because the majority of CPL doesn't care. Just like all of the srs CPL private forums are dead, aside from a GG thread once or twice a season.

not those outcomes. i'm talking about random mods being summoned to ban people

but concerning the outcomes you're talking about, i'm not sure why anyone would care that a GG subforum would be dead. show of hands?

Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams

Originally posted by Catullus 16

Originally posted by Azure Dreams

Originally posted by Catullus 16

Originally posted by Azure Dreams

I do notice that!
you Made a point
fixed.
still waiting for it.
Originally posted by Catullus 16

so... mods that agree with you = awesome and mods that disagree with you = terrible, power-hungry, and unprofessional?
that sounds like a challenge (or even a claim), but it's not. i'm just point out that it doesn't stand as a good argument. that's all.
....Feudel? Is taht you?

oh come on.

how many times do i have to say that i'm not saying that you're wrong? i'm just waiting for a better argument for why these "terrible fucking mods" are terrible, power-hungry, and unprofessional.

all you've given me so far is an argument by assertion, which is hardly convincing.

You didn't ask for that, though, you claimed that the reason was because they disagree with me.

See: Last night.

See: The bans everyone is serving

See: the fact that this forum exists and is sanctioned by pallow/max despite a near-guarantee of support by inactivity for anything a mod does

See: The photos from last night of CPL mid-troll

See: The shit those mods say to people

See: The reasons given for moderatorial actions citing rules that don't exist

See: The fact that these huge problems only arrive when they intervene

See: The fact that everyone knows e-peen self-felatio is not a good moderator pasttime

See: The fact that there is literally no pre-req for becoming a mod except winning the lottery.