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Originally posted by MadcatWillie
The A leagues with BBB leagues aren't capped. The lowest tier A's now have caps.

Correct. And EE has a BBB league, which is why A won't be capped.

Originally posted by JcWildcat
Originally posted by jonnyGoBlue

Then let them keep those players, just make them unable to sign anymore above the cap.

I have been saying that it wouldn't have a cap ever since JcJayhawk and myself got it clarified by Bort in a thread made about the level 40 player with the rest cpus announcement.

All I'm saying is that I would like to see a solid justification of why it couldn't.

Read above.

Here is my experience with an expansion team in WE A #1. Our first season we finished 4th in WE BBB #2 Zeta playoffs. We got promoted. No big deal. We stuck together and took our lumps. We got crushed some games but also won some games. We missed the playoffs that season.

Well the flip side to this story is. The team we beat in the playoffs in our expansion season stayed behind. They went undefeated and got a ton of playoff money. We scrimmaged them and were the only team to beat them that season. So the moral of the story was that they got to stay behind and make lots of team money while we barely could afford level 24 eq.

Still I think the move helped us learn how to deal with higher leveled teams. We did much better last season. I think we already know this story because it can be told by most owners prior to this season. I am guessing that is why the team shuffles were planned and the South American BBB teams were not promoted at all.

Its to bad that last seasons EE expansion teams fell through the cracks this season but its not new to GLB. A shuffle would be great but I think most teams can survive without one. It just may take an extra season or two. I know my team had to skip on level 32 eq last season but so did most the teams in my league.

Originally posted by JcWildcat
Read above.

That is not a solid justification unless you can further explain why having a BBB league below the A league means that there should be no caps on the A league.

Originally posted by jonnyGoBlue
Originally posted by JcWildcat

Read above.

That is not a solid justification unless you can further explain why having a BBB league below the A league means that there should be no caps on the A league.

Why not cap AAA Leagues? What solid justification can you give against doing that? There really is no solid justification for or against it but people came in knowing this is uncapped so there's no reason to change it up.

Originally posted by jrry32
Originally posted by jonnyGoBlue

Originally posted by JcWildcat


Read above.

That is not a solid justification unless you can further explain why having a BBB league below the A league means that there should be no caps on the A league.

Why not cap AAA Leagues? What solid justification can you give against doing that? There really is no solid justification for or against it but people came in knowing this is uncapped so there's no reason to change it up.

I can't give a justification for not capping AAA leagues, in fact I think that every level of the tree should be capped except Pro. I've been trying to keep up as best I can with this thread and have yet to see an explanation of how a shuffle followed by reasonable level caps would not work.

Can't cap A because of the reason jrry32 said. People came into A knowing it was uncapped, no reason to change it up.

That and from page 10 in this thread I've been quoting Bort's and JcJayhawk's quote stating there will not be a cap. Yet you all decide to argue or ignore those.

Originally posted by JcWildcat
Can't cap A because of the reason jrry32 said. People came into A knowing it was uncapped, no reason to change it up.

If a shuffle occurred, then the people that dumped their teams to recruit higher level guys because of the uncapped leagues would then get placed into leagues with other teams with similarly leveled players. That league could then have a cap placed on it to reflect what the league currently looked like, preventing teams from then recruiting guys well above that new league to gain an advantage yet again. The result is more leagues with more evenly distributed competition within the leagues.

So I don't believe that not capping A because of recruting is a valid reason if we are to allow a shuffle to occur.

Originally posted by JcWildcat
That and from page 10 in this thread I've been quoting Bort's and JcJayhawk's quote stating there will not be a cap. Yet you all decide to argue or ignore those.

I'm not ignoring what they said, simply looking for reasoning behind the statements.

You've gotten them.

Originally posted by jonnyGoBlue
Originally posted by jrry32

Originally posted by jonnyGoBlue


Originally posted by JcWildcat



Read above.

That is not a solid justification unless you can further explain why having a BBB league below the A league means that there should be no caps on the A league.

Why not cap AAA Leagues? What solid justification can you give against doing that? There really is no solid justification for or against it but people came in knowing this is uncapped so there's no reason to change it up.

I can't give a justification for not capping AAA leagues, in fact I think that every level of the tree should be capped except Pro. I've been trying to keep up as best I can with this thread and have yet to see an explanation of how a shuffle followed by reasonable level caps would not work.

Well, I'll do my best to answer. Teams knew the A Leagues were uncapped so some decided to recruit uncapped players now you said don't remove them if they end up over the level in a capped league but that will lead to some teams complaining about other teams having an advantage and it is true, teams who have the players over the cap have an advantage so why not put everyone on a level playing field? Why change the rules in the middle of the off-season when everyone knew the rules beforehand?

Originally posted by jrry32
Originally posted by jonnyGoBlue

Originally posted by jrry32


Originally posted by jonnyGoBlue



Originally posted by JcWildcat




Read above.

That is not a solid justification unless you can further explain why having a BBB league below the A league means that there should be no caps on the A league.

Why not cap AAA Leagues? What solid justification can you give against doing that? There really is no solid justification for or against it but people came in knowing this is uncapped so there's no reason to change it up.

I can't give a justification for not capping AAA leagues, in fact I think that every level of the tree should be capped except Pro. I've been trying to keep up as best I can with this thread and have yet to see an explanation of how a shuffle followed by reasonable level caps would not work.

Well, I'll do my best to answer. Teams knew the A Leagues were uncapped so some decided to recruit uncapped players now you said don't remove them if they end up over the level in a capped league but that will lead to some teams complaining about other teams having an advantage and it is true, teams who have the players over the cap have an advantage so why not put everyone on a level playing field? Why change the rules in the middle of the off-season when everyone knew the rules beforehand?


Hey jrry, thanks for the response but please read my second to last post again. I'm not saying we should just cap all the leagues. I'm saying we should shuffle then cap. I believe that your reasoning not to cap goes away if a shuffle occurs. A level playing field occurs when teams that decided to recruit high get put with other teams at that level and teams that kept their BBB expansion teams together from last year get put with other teams in the same boat. The shuffle + cap proposition seems like a win-win for everybody (except high level teams expecting to beat up on low level teams).

BTW, congrats on the promotion.

Originally posted by JcWildcat
37 for it, 13 against.

One additional conditional yes to make it 38 for it, they want to be guaranteed to be placed with the BBB teams they played last season.

That's not what I said in it's entirety. I said I wanted to be placed with the BBB teams I was with last season provided they selected the same level range as me