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rotharek
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Originally posted by cooljesture20
The only problem KH has lies with Lambda. PF did what they had to do. In there situation our team would have done the same thing, virtually any team in GLB would. You have to play to the game sometimes. I just love the irony that Lambda represents. All the shit he's spewed from his mouth this season about us, and now he's defending what his team did. It's a joke.


rofl, these guys fucking hate lambda
 
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faedie
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sounds about right
 
Clique
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Yes! - For an heroic victory against a much higher-level opponent,

Yes again! - For the correct use of the indefinite article.
 
mitt31
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Take every game for what its worth... if someone takes a game strategy in a beats you and shows you what you need to fix, do you a fix it? or b call it cheating?

In Pro football if you see a guy in the other teams defense that just can't match up against a WR... don't you throw his way all day long until the other team counters?

In Pro football if a team can pound it on the ground play after play after play and move the chains successfully don't they do it with the occasional toss to try and catch the D sleeping?

get over it, its a bloody game and If I spot a cinch in your armor yes i am going to try and exploit it come play off time so now is that called cheating or is that called game planning?

Both teams are in the playoffs, and you can't expect a team to not try that against KH if they are out matched... now I don't watch every game but if this didn't get blown up I wouldn't know how to beat you, so while you may or may not have a valid point you have just showed the Vikings how to beat your 15-1 team.

but we'll worry about that if we see you, one step at a time and right now we need to focus on Steal Rain.

just my thoughts
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Originally posted by mcgovern10
Originally posted by mcallero

Could you imagine how pissed mcgovern would be though, ROFL


I'm still trying to get over Manchester running pretty much the same thing against us but you know what? I saw them do it on plenty of film and should have just put in a couple of packages against the Singleback formation to sell out to stop their run, at least on 1st down anyways.

Probably the only thing Kobenhavn could have done (had they known what PF was going to do) would be to implement some goalline D against that strong I 30% of the time and hope to at least slow it down. We did this early in the season against the Legionnaires when they were (literally)running rampant over everyone.

You know how it goes though, "Ifs and Buts, Candy and Nuts"

Shame that you would have to go so far as implementing a goalline defense to stop the run on GLB, though, and I definitely hope Bort works to fix it in the off-season.


I will say this b4 you really want to gripe about Manchester, they have ran pretty much the same offense for 2 seasons. I don't come in here to flame, but I laugh if you think we were trying to exploit someone. Was not any formation that beat you. Was the inability to stop the pass in the last 2 minutes. Granted your guys took 2 picks to the house but did not get the stop "against the pass" when it counted. Good luck Next season
 
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Obviously the intelligence in this forum is just slightly above that of a special olympics gathering, so I'll help you guys out:

1) On high level players: Western Europe A #1 -- 25-43 suggested level. And are you seriously bitching about player levels? There are plenty of responses I could give here...I'll give two:

a) players in the forties were made back before any concept of slow building and back when the sim was a completely different beast. I can guarantee you that those "10 levels" don't mean much when many of those points have been absolute wastes. Just looking at the negligible difference between my two C's is laughable. [summary: QQQQQ]

b) Yes Mr. Commissioner. We decided to film their team signals because they are FUCKING CHEATERS and signed a good RB and QB in the offseason. I mean, wtf are we supposed to do to combat that???

2) Using some cheesy ass exploit to win (and make no mistake, that's what it is) is beyond a dickmove. Signing better players isn't an exploit--it's the point of the game. Once you hit adulthood you'll realize this is how the world works: the best companies and teams attract the best talent. Please go bitch to Lockheed Martin and Boeing. On the contrary, running one unstoppable play that has emerged in S8 80+ times is an exploit--especially telling that you guys justify it by the ends you met. Imagine you would go to any means in order to win (and in the meantime cheat another team that deserved the spot you took)...if only we had a name for those kinds of people...

Protip and conclusions: At the beginning of the season, I had one guy on HF--my punter who never levels. But since proaxis and flame are awesome GLB members and the team was fun (a rarity on GLB), I wanted to bring over my players. So when a couple of my AAA teams folded earlier this season, I asked if there was room on HF. The situation you attempt to create, where flame and proaxis sinisterly sneak around behind the scenes, cutting exploitive deals in order to bring in high level players just doesn't exist. They are great owners and gms (and the team is a great group of guys) so I naturally wanted to be a more integral part of the team.

Who knows, maybe if you guys weren't such a bunch of snot-nosed jerks (as evidenced by your choice to exploit the game and the multitude of "LOLOLZ" responses here), you might attract some other talent? And look, a tl;dr. Please cry about it.
 
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Originally posted by mitt31

In Pro football if a team can pound it on the ground play after play after play and move the chains successfully don't they do it with the occasional toss to try and catch the D sleeping?


So mittpro, this analogy is sound because the playcalling in both scenarios is equal, right? In both the NFL and GLB, each teams calls offensive and defensive plays in succession (based on not just the current formation, but on the game trends)? And the NFL has a shitty sim where one play works every time, no matter the defense right? And it works 80 times in a row? Oh, that's not how it is?

Also, please explain how to stop the cheese play. I mean, I know you've already made a few suggestions on how to stop it, but (ps) they weren't right. Try again.
 
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Originally posted by mitt31
Take every game for what its worth... if someone takes a game strategy in a beats you and shows you what you need to fix, do you a fix it? or b call it cheating?

In Pro football if you see a guy in the other teams defense that just can't match up against a WR... don't you throw his way all day long until the other team counters?

In Pro football if a team can pound it on the ground play after play after play and move the chains successfully don't they do it with the occasional toss to try and catch the D sleeping?

get over it, its a bloody game and If I spot a cinch in your armor yes i am going to try and exploit it come play off time so now is that called cheating or is that called game planning?

Both teams are in the playoffs, and you can't expect a team to not try that against KH if they are out matched... now I don't watch every game but if this didn't get blown up I wouldn't know how to beat you, so while you may or may not have a valid point you have just showed the Vikings how to beat your 15-1 team.

but we'll worry about that if we see you, one step at a time and right now we need to focus on Steal Rain.

just my thoughts


you amuse me mitt. KH and PF have moved past this yet you continue. the vikings are as irrelevant as your thoughts, but nice try kiddo
 
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Originally posted by mitt31

In Pro football if you see a guy in the other teams defense that just can't match up against a WR... don't you throw his way all day long until the other team counters?

just my thoughts


Your argument is fucked b/c we're not on the sidelines during the game and we have control WHILE the sim is running--only beforehand. There is no countering on GLB unless you see the other team doing it on gamefilm ahead of time which PF certainly didn't do.

What did you expect Kobenhavn's DC to do, go and say, "You know, I have a sneaking suspicion that Passion is going to run the Strong I HB Slam every single play against us in this game. I don't know why, it's just a hunch..."

Sorry bro, I hate to do this but...

massive fail.
 
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Originally posted by mcgovern10
Your argument is fucked b/c we're not on the sidelines during the game and we have control WHILE the sim is running--only beforehand. There is no countering on GLB unless you see the other team doing it on gamefilm ahead of time which PF certainly didn't do.

What did you expect Kobenhavn's DC to do, go and say, "You know, I have a sneaking suspicion that Passion is going to run the Strong I HB Slam every single play against us in this game. I don't know why, it's just a hunch..."

Sorry bro, I hate to do this but...

massive fail.


let me just restate something i think most of you are missing:

kobenhaven still almost beat this "unstoppable exploit" by sheer virtue of their players being such an obscenely high level, with absolutely no adjustments made to their defensive AI to account for it.

do you realize what this means? it means that kobenhaven's "tactic" has them in such a position that it is almost impossible for the second best team (along with parma) in alpha to beat them, regardless of what they do. does no one else find this offensive?
 
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Back to what this thread is supposed to be.

Grats to your team Mitt. We did better than the final score imo. Two poorly times INT's killed us

Oh and BTW....screw your QB, I hope he dies in a plane crash!!!!
 
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Originally posted by Lambda
Originally posted by mcgovern10

Your argument is fucked b/c we're not on the sidelines during the game and we have control WHILE the sim is running--only beforehand. There is no countering on GLB unless you see the other team doing it on gamefilm ahead of time which PF certainly didn't do.

What did you expect Kobenhavn's DC to do, go and say, "You know, I have a sneaking suspicion that Passion is going to run the Strong I HB Slam every single play against us in this game. I don't know why, it's just a hunch..."

Sorry bro, I hate to do this but...

massive fail.


let me just restate something i think most of you are missing:

kobenhaven still almost beat this "unstoppable exploit" by sheer virtue of their players being such an obscenely high level, with absolutely no adjustments made to their defensive AI to account for it.

do you realize what this means? it means that kobenhaven's "tactic" has them in such a position that it is almost impossible for the second best team (along with parma) in alpha to beat them, regardless of what they do. does no one else find this offensive?


Are we supposed to find it offensive that you are unable to attract better talent? Because I'm pretty sure the only offensive part of this whole ordeal is your own exploitation of the game and cheating a more deserving team out of the 2nd seed.

 
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ITT: Tears

 
kiliki76
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This babbling is tired.....

They beat you, not by cheating, but by exposing a flaw in this game. To cheat would be to do something the sim does not allow...ie use a hack, etc etc.

So bottom line is many teams have been using this strategy all year. I don't necessarily agree with it, but oh well.....Bort hasn't fixed it, so he is the one allowing it.

Dedicate your time and energy into your upcoming playoff games and enjoy your #1 seed.

Stop whining already......

***If you must go on make another thread and take it there. That way those of us that want to look in the GG/GL thread don't have to sort through pages of posts saying the same thing......and we can just ignore the new thread.***
 
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