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Originally posted by Osmlol
I refuse to pay cable TV monopolies for their shitty service filled with ads and reality TV. I may look into an antenna but as it stands now I stream those broadcasts and feel no guilty what so ever. They bleed consumers dry for decades and now we have better options. If they don't adapt to the new technology it is their loss.

Originally posted by Osmlol
Ya? I admitted I use illegal stream services. I don't care. The morality police here are hilarious. I bet you Al never go over a posted speed limit and have never use a torrent site or never used Napster when you were a kid. God forbid anyone here has smoked marijuana.

Its not about what we once did--its about a state of mind and where you're at now.

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Its not about what we once did--its about a state of mind and where you're at now.

That would put you in the state of denial, and in an insane asylum.

Originally posted by Osmlol
Good post. So it's not illegal to consume a game via online streaming that is broadcast locally for free over the airwaves but it is illegal to rebroadcast it.

Well, there are plenty of things that people and authorities say are illegal to protect someone's interests which actually have no statute governing said activity or are actually misinterpreting (sometimes purposefully) said statute.

The fact is, you'd only be guilty of violating statute by downloading or streaming media if you go along with what they say and don't object.

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Its not about what we once did--its about a state of mind and where you're at now.

So what you are saying is you would forgive a pedophile who raped a dozen children as long as they are cured of their evil thought today?

Originally posted by NitrousX
These statements govern an entity providing, not consuming, the content.

Private use and mere possession of content (especially content that is free over the air) is not regulated, and such a prosecution would not hold any weight in court, which is why no one is being fined for "illegal downloading" (does not exist... there is only illegal uploading).

Furthermore, downloading any content on the web from someone else is not illegal. Uploading content copyrighted by someone else is.
All of this is hilariously wrong. Downloading copyrighted material is expressly forbidden in the DMCA and many other such laws, from which people occasionally do get prosecuted. The reason you seem much more targeting of uploaders is that they're viewed as the bigger problem and it's easier to claim damages, but it's definitely not because they're the only ones doing something illegal.

Originally posted by jdbolick

All of this is hilariously wrong. Downloading copyrighted material is expressly forbidden in the DMCA and many other such laws, from which people occasionally do get prosecuted. The reason you seem much more targeting of uploaders is that they're viewed as the bigger problem and it's easier to claim damages, but it's definitely not because they're the only ones doing something illegal.

Streaming is different though. Nothing is saved on the PC. No one has ever been prosecuted for streaming to my knowledge.

Originally posted by Osmlol
Streaming is different though. Nothing is saved on the PC. No one has ever been prosecuted for streaming to my knowledge.
You would have almost no chance of being prosecuted because it would be damn hard to prove in the first place and then there would be little to nothing in the way of damages, but it's still illegal. Knowing receipt of stolen material is still illegal even if you don't maintain possession.

Originally posted by jdbolick

All of this is hilariously wrong. Downloading copyrighted material is expressly forbidden in the DMCA and many other such laws, from which people occasionally do get prosecuted. The reason you seem much more targeting of uploaders is that they're viewed as the bigger problem and it's easier to claim damages, but it's definitely not because they're the only ones doing something illegal.

Prove it. The onus of proof is always on the prosecutor

Show Osmlol the statute the says he can't download season 4 of MasterChef and watch Luca win, and I'll show you how it doesn't mean diddly.

Here's the text of the DMCA if you'd like to point out something specific:

https://www.aclu.org/technology-and-liberty/text-digital-millennium-copyright-act-dmca

Title 17 Sec 106 if that helps:

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/17/1/106

And Title 17 in its entirety:

http://copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html

Notice it's frequent mentioning of "transmission" ... where is the mention of receipt or streaming, and how does it apply?

This thread has become so predictably boring.

Originally posted by Dub J
This thread has become so predictably boring.



inorite

much more entertaining in the 1st few pages.went to shit

So, a question for the anti-piracy warriors.

I pre-ordered Dead Rising 3 on Steam, and it becomes available in 14 hours.

However, there's torrents up of the game right now that you can download and play. Is that kind of piracy wrong? Is it even piracy? I've bought the game, I just don't have it yet, would it still be "stealing"? The game is not being taken from anybody, I'd just be playing it a day before the optimal sales day.

Originally posted by Corndog
So, a question for the anti-piracy warriors.

I pre-ordered Dead Rising 3 on Steam, and it becomes available in 14 hours.

However, there's torrents up of the game right now that you can download and play. Is that kind of piracy wrong? Is it even piracy? I've bought the game, I just don't have it yet, would it still be "stealing"? The game is not being taken from anybody, I'd just be playing it a day before the optimal sales day.

thats kinda like date rape. she wanted it, you just took it before she was ready.