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The Eagle
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yeah, i never made it out of silver as a no/no in like 7 or 8 seasons...

worse than that, in my Silver 5 Ohio Rage versus SAS days, i never even made it past Dead.ed...who didn't make it out of silver as a no/no for like 4-5 seasons...
 
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Originally posted by Gerr
I just hope it doesn't take 3 more 2nd round knock outs before I get to the 3rd round...


Well hopefully I can help make that happen a little earlier.

 
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Originally posted by RaphaneKnight
Thanks, GG. Yeah sorry that had to happen. It was pretty much a nail biter in the first half. We've been facing each other
since the silver league so I know how good you guys are and I felt that the shy town bears were getting hot at the right time so I knew this was going to be a tough game.

I know the score doesn't mean much since you guys messed up with the AI. GL next season!


yes the first half was good.

But you blew my defense away in the second.
Had I scored every possession you would still have beaten me!
My defense needs a re-think as soon as they come to terms with getting their butt kicked!
 
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Originally posted by Gerr
GG RK, nice adjustments on defense and you just killed me with those 2 plays...



But what happened today just goes to prove my point that owners/coaches on Gold teams should be limited to one team only. RK has a really good recipe this season for winning, both of his Gold teams are in the conference finals, so hats off to him. But I also think that's hugely unfair as that gives an owner/coach twice as many chances to win Gold. Plus when you have a person like RK who is just dominating a season, he is doing it with two teams and is monopolizing the playoff spots.

Plus poor UT probably now has to face RK twice, first against TP in the Western Conference Finals, and again in the Championship game if UT beats TP and MG beats SBWL. Do you think for a second RK wont use the knowledge he gained from that game against UT in the championship game if they make it that far?

Don't get me wrong, I am not sore I lost, he beat me fair and square, so good job RK! I just don't like that he has 2 teams in Gold and thus allows him twice the chance to make it to the championship game. How fun will the championship game be if it's TP vs MG?!?


Gerr, I have to give you credit. You have an uncanny ability of blowing things out of proportion. We all know this has been done millions of times in gold and I don't know why you bring this out now. This isn't your first time in gold and obviously there are other teams that has been doing this in the past and present. It's funny how you left all the other teams out and just focus only on my teams.

Also, I don't think I enjoyed any advantage to be quite honest. The more teams you are part of the more exposed you'll be. I remember when stoner had like millions of teams, and it actually made my game planning job easier since there was a lot of information available on how he does thing.

I hope you weren't being serious when you said UT pimps would be at a disadvantage. I'm sure they'll use their knowledge they gained from the conf final as well. There is always two sides of the story gerr. I think you had far more greater advantage against the philosophers in the 2nd round game with the yes/yes team than Maine gaining advantage from having a sister team. It's really an irony that you brought that out.

There is pros and cons to having more teams. First, the quality of game planning wouldn't be as good. I pretty much have reduced my AI in half ever since I started getting involved with more than one team. Other being the one I have already mentioned above.

By the way, I'm going to demote the philosophers. Not because of all your complaining but I already found another test team. Since this would be the last competitive game for the philosophers I decided to buy CE. Didn't realize how cheap the rental CE is and I guess Bort deserves little bit of my money for giving me the opportunity to enjoy this game with the philosophers without paying a single dime the last two seasons. Even the scrimmage games were covered by Bort's 100 flex point giveaways and prize money I won in tournament games.

It does sounds silly since I would still be at a significant disadvantage being 2 lvls behind (looks like I'll lvl up to 11 tomorrow) but this at least gives us a fighting chance and I'll probably regret it either way. An opportunity like this doesn't come very often, and I have a chance to put both teams in the final and first non-boosting team to make it to the gold final. This would probably only increase our chance from 5% to 20% but it should be well worth it, considering the significance of the game and a chance to make history. I already had this in mind since I would get a free level up. I'll just see this as CE+x1 boost deal with the price of CE

Anyway, I do think that one coordinator per one team is a good idea, just make sure you focus on the issue rather than putting out the frustration on me.
Edited by RaphaneKnight on Feb 24, 2011 09:34:28
 
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Originally posted by 68guns
yes the first half was good.

But you blew my defense away in the second.
Had I scored every possession you would still have beaten me!
My defense needs a re-think as soon as they come to terms with getting their butt kicked!


You guys actually outplayed us the first half. I can't tell you how many close games we won this season.
It's just one of those things that just backfired. I bet if we played again, it would be a close one.

We are not really a dominant team and it's not going to be easy winning gold. I'm glad we were able to win two major tournaments. I'm actually satisified with that and anything from here and on will be bonus. You always have next season!
 
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Originally posted by 89stepside
Hey, I say let people own/coach as many Gold teams as they want. I can't beat anyone in the playoffs so I personally do not care


You are underrating yourself. PNM has been one of the most consistent teams in gold. A lot of your first round opponent ended up winning gold or making it to the final. And you guys did win a playoff game if I remember correctly.
 
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I have never been a fan of Gold teams sharing coaches, and have bitched about it in previous seasons. I only singled you out this season as you were the first to take it to the next level of one owner having two teams. And on top of that, you dominated with both teams, making my point stronger. It wasn't personal, I would have been barking no matter who did that, it just happened to be you first, so no disrespect was pointed your way. I avoided any personal attacks or comments on you, nor said that what you did was evil, selfish, etc. I only said that what you did shouldn't be allowed by GLB. People exploit bugs until they are fixed. I consider this a bug that you were just the first to take advantage of and I am hoping GLB will fix it. Once again, no disrespect was intended.

Think of it this way, in the history of any professional sport, as far as I know, no two teams in the same sport have EVER shared coaches the same season. Every team is it's own unique entity with it's own coaching staff. This is what I want for Gold, plain and simple.

As for me blowing things out of whack, I have to dance a fine line between making a strong point, and avoid sounding like I am crying foul and/or whining, not an easy task. But yes, if one of your teams wins and the other looses(spelled right Ping?...), I do think that gives you a slight advantage in the championship game against the other team as you will face them twice, but with 2 different teams where they are hitting you with the same team twice. Not a huge advantage, but a slight one.
 
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Originally posted by RaphaneKnight
You are underrating yourself. PNM has been one of the most consistent teams in gold. A lot of your first round opponent ended up winning gold or making it to the final. And you guys did win a playoff game if I remember correctly.


lol... yep, we did win 1 playoff game (1-5 overall). Although I think that had more to do with Gerr's playoff curse than us doing well. Thanks though

I'm not saying we suck, but we definitely struggle in the playoffs. I do feel good about the fact that we have been in the playoffs all 5 seasons we've been in Gold. I just need to find someone willing to run the Offense, because 3-7 points a game just won't cut it.
 
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Very impressive RK
 
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Originally posted by Gerr
no two teams in the same sport have EVER shared coaches the same season.



This.


Also, Great job RK
Edited by Sabanyt3 on Feb 25, 2011 07:08:21
 
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Originally posted by Dead.Ed
Very impressive RK


yes , big investment and a lot of work .... GL
 
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I don't mind an owner having two teams in the same league as long as they are on opposite sides of the conference. I Don't like it as I wouldnt have 2 teams in Gold but I don't mind it. What I do mind is the shear fact that something has changed in pee wee and it started around season 16 maybe 17. Teams that are outleveled are winning games they shouldn't be winning. This isn't directed at any one team as there are several. If you take two teams from Gold and one team is 3 level higher throughout the roster and say throw in custom EQ and the other team doesnt have any of that, thats a whopping 1100 plus sps. Thats a lot period. Also throw in the fact that both coordiantors coaches whatever are very good at the game and yet the no/no team still beats the fully loaded team? That I don't like. In the past a no/no team had zero shot at beating a fully decked team and thats the way it should be. You run a pitch and the CB is 3 levels under plus custom at 6, so lets say a level 10 LB catches a level 13 Hb on a pitch and makes a solo tackle for yards lost, that should never happen. The HB Should have more vision, he should be a bit faster and he should have more agility, not to mention the fact the FB and TE have the same advantage and the Offensive line. No way a DT by himself at level 10 with no CE should be able to stop the Center and the rushing QB cold in his tracks for .5 a yard, that just shouldn't happen. Something changed after season 15, and I think it was after season 16 and in season 17 when boosting all the sudden doesn't have the effect it once had.

Now I'm not saying I am against no/no teams but no way one should ever win a playoff game against a solid ball club. It's bad for bussiness, its bad for GLB. It's bad for teams who spend the funds to get an edge, and yes it is an edge I forgot who I argued this with, but 3 levels and CE is a clear edge and if your paying for it you clearly should have one.

Anyways end rant from an old timer.
 
The Eagle
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Originally posted by LordEvil
...I forgot who I argued this with...


mighta been me...you enjoy your honey nut cheerios while I suffer eating my generic plain "toasted Os"?

 
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GO GO GO!
 
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Originally posted by LordEvil
I don't mind an owner having two teams in the same league as long as they are on opposite sides of the conference. I Don't like it as I wouldnt have 2 teams in Gold but I don't mind it. What I do mind is the shear fact that something has changed in pee wee and it started around season 16 maybe 17. Teams that are outleveled are winning games they shouldn't be winning. This isn't directed at any one team as there are several. If you take two teams from Gold and one team is 3 level higher throughout the roster and say throw in custom EQ and the other team doesnt have any of that, thats a whopping 1100 plus sps. Thats a lot period. Also throw in the fact that both coordiantors coaches whatever are very good at the game and yet the no/no team still beats the fully loaded team? That I don't like. In the past a no/no team had zero shot at beating a fully decked team and thats the way it should be. You run a pitch and the CB is 3 levels under plus custom at 6, so lets say a level 10 LB catches a level 13 Hb on a pitch and makes a solo tackle for yards lost, that should never happen. The HB Should have more vision, he should be a bit faster and he should have more agility, not to mention the fact the FB and TE have the same advantage and the Offensive line. No way a DT by himself at level 10 with no CE should be able to stop the Center and the rushing QB cold in his tracks for .5 a yard, that just shouldn't happen. Something changed after season 15, and I think it was after season 16 and in season 17 when boosting all the sudden doesn't have the effect it once had.

Now I'm not saying I am against no/no teams but no way one should ever win a playoff game against a solid ball club. It's bad for bussiness, its bad for GLB. It's bad for teams who spend the funds to get an edge, and yes it is an edge I forgot who I argued this with, but 3 levels and CE is a clear edge and if your paying for it you clearly should have one.

Anyways end rant from an old timer.


Beating a team you outlevel by 3 + CE is easy, as it should be. I have no idea how teams lose with such a huge advantage. So if you lose, you deserve to lose. If you suck that bad, no amount of money you spend should make up for it. There are teams right now that are winning games only because they spend more money, and I think that is a bigger problem. This game isn't about skill, it's about who spends more. So for RK to make it to the conference finals with TP just shows how much better he is than most of you.
 
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