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here is a little aesthetic amendment I'd proposed to the hemisphere leagues to keep some of the integrity of Regions together

...................................................Western Hemisphere:
North American Conference:.........................................Southern Conference:
American Division: ....................................................... African Division:
Canadian Division:,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.......South American Division:

..................................................Eastern Hemisphere:
European Conference:.........................................Southern Conference:
Western European Division: ....................................................... Austrailan Division:
Eastern European Division:,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.......South East Asian Division:


From here, the top four teams from the hemispheres move up to WL and the bottom two (barring gutting and everything else) from each division relgate to the regional pro's.

With the current system in place, Hali will destroy CPL next season with plenty of 255-0 games. I'd like to see the system change so the 2nd tier is semi competitive.

Why hasnt this been implemented yet?

If the main aim of this suggestion is to reduce leagues at the tippy-top, wouldn't it just be easier to chop the leagues into 4 (say...Americas, Eurasia, Oceania, and Africa or something like that) and push the remaining teams into the new Regional Pro structure? The Regional Pro structure will have the elite/comp/normal setup, so the high-aged teams would filter their way through the system like you're trying to do here. And that's without adding another layer to go through.

Then for WL promotion, you'd just take the teams that made the conference championship games instead of the league champs.

Originally posted by Bort
If the main aim of this suggestion is to reduce leagues at the tippy-top, wouldn't it just be easier to chop the leagues into 4 (say...Americas, Eurasia, Oceania, and Africa or something like that) and push the remaining teams into the new Regional Pro structure?
The main aim is to make things more interesting for elite Pro teams and demoting World League teams. Right now the season is just unbelievably boring and a complete waste of time for those rosters, except for any tournaments you choose to enter. Plus, having those juggernauts in the league makes the season pointless for everyone else too. They do get more competitive games, so it's perhaps not quite as bad, but they know they have absolutely no shot of winning anything. Unfortunately it's not just an isolated case either, as this situation has cropped up in most Pro leagues since extended plateau was added, and seems to be getting worse.

Originally posted by
The Regional Pro structure will have the elite/comp/normal setup, so the high-aged teams would filter their way through the system like you're trying to do here. And that's without adding another layer to go through.
Adding another layer was precisely my objection when I first saw Rusty propose this type of league back in the day, but I've since realized that it's only really true for teams that would have won Pro their very first season, which would not apply to more than a few, if any. That said, just condensing Pro and pushing everyone else down would be better than nothing if you just really don't like the idea of Hemispheres.

the Hemispheres are the way to go....anything else is just going to make it harder for teams to ever make the Pros. It will be harder and harder to keep team owners interested if you make it harder to get there.

I actually think we need to have stronger promotion/demotion action., so that more teams can move up and fill in for the teams that go CPU or just aren't cutting it.

Originally posted by Raiders12
I actually think we need to have stronger promotion/demotion action., so that more teams can move up and fill in for the teams that go CPU or just aren't cutting it.
That part can be handled without changes to the league structure if someone will just pay attention and move down any CPUs or gutted rosters.

Originally posted by jdbolick

That part can be handled without changes to the league structure if someone will just pay attention and move down any CPUs or gutted rosters.


In OPL, 3 of our crap teams were purchased directly as Pro teams. They really need to remove that "feature" if they want to pretend to care about parity and competition whether using your proposed structure or the current league structure.

Originally posted by Plankton
In OPL, 3 of our crap teams were purchased directly as Pro teams. They really need to remove that "feature" if they want to pretend to care about parity and competition whether using your proposed structure or the current league structure.

yes you shouldn't be able to purchase that high of a team. I think they should cap it at the new 200 age level league.

Part of the direct-purchase-Pro problem is that, when you go to the "Buy Team" page, the first teams listed are the Pro teams, without any indication that the new owner won't be able to sign his level-1 dots to them. Probably needs a separate suggestion.

Originally posted by beenlurken
No they wont...

Worldwide Professional = World League (no subdivisions)
National Pro = 8 Pro leagues (no subdivisions)
Regional Pro is essentially AAA (would assume subdivisions begin here)

The whole reason DD suggested these name changes was to appease those that want to see "highschool"/ "college"/etc progressions that mimic RL progressions. It was idiotic of him to change the name of WL/Pro and essentially create four pro levels.

Regardless, this is the perfect opportunity to add the idea that jdbolick is resuggesting. Simply make "National Pro" what is being proposed and bump the 8 Pro leagues to the "Regional Pro" level. It we dont do this now there will be more reluctance to add a level between "Worldwide" and "National".

Essentially look something like this...

League - Word League - Min Age 321 days - Max Age - Uncapped (Why change the name of this???)
League - Regional Pro - Min Age 321 days - Max Age - Uncapped (this encompasses jdbolicks current suggestion from suggestion forum)
League - Pros (will still retain the 8 regions) - Min Age 281 days - Max Age - Uncapped
League - AAA - Min Age 241 days - Max Age - 280 days
League - National Minor - Min Age 201 days - Max Age - 240 days
League - Regional Minor - Min Age 161 days - Max Age - 200 days
League - Local Minor - Min Age 121 days - Max Age 160 days
League - University - Min Age 81 days - Max Age 120 days
League - Prep - Min Age 41 days - Max Age 80 days
League - Advanced - Min Age 1 day - Max Age 40 days
League - Fundamental - Min and Max Age = 0 days

Got a message from support that says they will be subdivided. Well, it said the Regional Pro would be. I didn't ask specifically about the top tier since I probably wont be in it for another season.

Should have pretty much been set up with regions inside the US and then USA Pro being the "World League" IMO....... doubt most people in Africa, SEA, Eastern Europe even know the shape of a football TBPH.

Originally posted by Bort
If the main aim of this suggestion is to reduce leagues at the tippy-top, wouldn't it just be easier to chop the leagues into 4 (say...Americas, Eurasia, Oceania, and Africa or something like that) and push the remaining teams into the new Regional Pro structure? The Regional Pro structure will have the elite/comp/normal setup, so the high-aged teams would filter their way through the system like you're trying to do here. And that's without adding another layer to go through.

Then for WL promotion, you'd just take the teams that made the conference championship games instead of the league champs.

North America (CPL/USA)
Europe (EEPL/WEPL)
Asia (OPL/SEAPL),
Southern (SLAP/APL)

But, you can retain the regional identity by keeping the conferences region specific. In North America for example, you'd have the USA and Canada Conferences, and keep the promotions region specific. Teams from Canada for example, unless they request a swap, would promote into Canada Conference.

Just a thought to follow up on Bort's post. Not to derail jdbolick's idea, which is also very good.

Please, Borticus: Under Consideration/In Progress

Yes please.

(1401 votes for, 508 against)

I havent quite gotten a gauge yet on what the vote count needs to be at to be considered. Right now you have 26.6% against it and 73.4% for it.

And even if considered I doubt it would be implemented for a season or two....think they need to flesh out the new structure first before messing w/ the "top" of it