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Procrustes
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Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams
I do notice that!
you Made a point

fixed.

still waiting for it.


Originally posted by Catullus 16
so... mods that agree with you = awesome and mods that disagree with you = terrible, power-hungry, and unprofessional?


that sounds like a challenge (or even a claim), but it's not. i'm just point out that it doesn't stand as a good argument. that's all.
 
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Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16

Originally posted by Deathblade


lol @ CPL being the "end game" of trolling.

More misconceptions shared by a LOT of people. CPL doesn't inherently hate all outsiders. CPL generally shares the "don't care" regarding most people outside of CPL. People really start their posting on a blank slate, since most users really don't give a damn. Taking yourself really serious, and having an inflated ego from recently winning an AAA championship, and carrying it over into CPL will take you into the "negatives". Posting an innocent GG or "We're in CPL now" thread will keep you pretty neutral, thus, they usually don't really get flamed.

And yes, becoming liked by a community is what happens when you join a new league's forum and try to have a good time. A lot of other league forums have people they can't stand...actually, most league forums that I've seen have 2-3 users that everyone dislikes, and speaks to condescendingly, while making snarky remarks about their dotballing abilities.


looks like you fundamentally misunderstood me.

let me be clear -- i'm not saying anyone in the CPL is trolling. i'm not even saying the forum itself fosters an environment of trolling.

i'm certainly not saying that the CPL "hates all outsiders", etc. in fact, i'm saying the exact opposite.


But you haven't explained why that necessitates your suggestions or a punishment of CPL or justifies the shitmodding tha thas happened.

"You there, Jimmy, Johnny, Catherine, you look really happy"

"Yeah, we're enjoying ourselves"

"Well, Shelby isn't, and the fact that you are and she isn't makes her feel bad, so I'm going to kill your parents"


poor Jimmy's dad, he's a really nice guy
 
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Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams

Originally posted by Catullus 16

Originally posted by Azure Dreams

I do notice that!
you Made a point

fixed.

still waiting for it.


Originally posted by Catullus 16

so... mods that agree with you = awesome and mods that disagree with you = terrible, power-hungry, and unprofessional?


that sounds like a challenge (or even a claim), but it's not. i'm just point out that it doesn't stand as a good argument. that's all.


....Feudel? Is taht you?
 
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Originally posted by Gturtle
poor Jimmy's dad, he's a really nice guy


His mom's a whore though.
 
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Originally posted by Deathblade
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poor Jimmy's dad, he's a really nice guy


His mom's a whore though.


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God dammit Catullus and AD, stop trolling each other.
 
Procrustes
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Originally posted by Gturtle
So we're at fault for something we're not trying to do, but rather the over reactions of other people to the thing we're not trying to do?


not quite... no one's really at fault here -- hence my point about shared responsibility.

although the next step is to say that anyone conscious of this structure can't complain about inevitable results.
 
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Originally posted by Gturtle
God dammit Catullus and AD, stop trolling each other.


reported.
 
Procrustes
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Originally posted by Gturtle
CPL's super special forum rule should be "You, outsider, stop over-reacting"


or maybe -- "welcome to guerrilla theater"
 
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Originally posted by Catullus 16
although the next step is to say that anyone conscious of this structure can't complain about inevitable results.


But we already know the outcomes...which is a dead forum because the majority of CPL doesn't care. Just like all of the srs CPL private forums are dead, aside from a GG thread once or twice a season.
 
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Now, back to the Restructureament.

I'm saying it's not going to work, because I will troll it. Where as now, where CPL meta-trolls GG threads, in their own GG sub-forum, the GG dot crowd will be lured in under a false idea of security, which I will abuse, and then proceed to elicit hilarious reactions from. What's worse, going hunting for deer and waiting for them to wander by your deer blind, or going hunting for deer, and baiting them to your deer blind?
 
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Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by Catullus 16

although the next step is to say that anyone conscious of this structure can't complain about inevitable results.


But we already know the outcomes...which is a dead forum because the majority of CPL doesn't care. Just like all of the srs CPL private forums are dead, aside from a GG thread once or twice a season.


I just described every other league forum btw
 
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Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Gturtle
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Gturtle
Trolling is something that ultimately cannot be moderated. It's possible to troll by agreeing with people. Literally, trying to get rid of trolling would only work if you only allowed cut and dry words to be strung together- like some sort of refrigerator magnet game, only on the internet

couldn't agree more.
and my further point is that the best trolls work in groups. it's not just about manipulating people with isolated posts... it's about manipulating people with entire forums or even entire cultures.
i'm not sure if even "meta-trolling" is an accurate description of what the CPL does to people. it's not just that you take the contextual rug out from under people... it's like you do away with the very concepts of floors/walls/ceilings themeselves.

It can't be considered trolling when the 'target' of the troll isn't actually a target, but rather an outsider visiting the forum of his own free will.

but that's my point. you guys aren't trying to troll at all... you pull off an amazing meta-troll in a matter of seconds, but no particular individual ever did anything wrong.
meanwhile, the victim knows they just got pwned, which is why they react the way they do... and why they get further frustrated when they can't figure out who they're fighting (because no one is really fighting them).
it's like trying to convince the universe to care about you as a person.

You're right it is. And the universe doesn't.

The solution isn't to destroy the universe and try to change the laws of physics to force it to care about you. That is impossible and not worth your efforts.

The solution isn't to go columbine up in this bitch.

The solution is to learn how to deal with life, put things in perspective, and make some freinds who DO care about you.


be the change you want to see in the world.
 
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Originally posted by Gturtle
Now, back to the Restructureament.

I'm saying it's not going to work, because I will troll it. Where as now, where CPL meta-trolls GG threads, in their own GG sub-forum, the GG dot crowd will be lured in under a false idea of security, which I will abuse, and then proceed to elicit hilarious reactions from. What's worse, going hunting for deer and waiting for them to wander by your deer blind, or going hunting for deer, and baiting them to your deer blind?


Using the "authorial I" here, ldo
 
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Originally posted by Gturtle
Now, back to the Restructureament.

I'm saying it's not going to work, because I will troll it. Where as now, where CPL meta-trolls GG threads, in their own GG sub-forum, the GG dot crowd will be lured in under a false idea of security, which I will abuse, and then proceed to elicit hilarious reactions from. What's worse, going hunting for deer and waiting for them to wander by your deer blind, or going hunting for deer, and baiting them to your deer blind?


Both of those sound funny, actually.
 
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