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Originally posted by Bort
I want to thank JcWildcat for his hard work of doing the tallying - much appreciated, man!

You guys are not making this easy on me...26% of the vote says no, and I was hoping to see more like 90% for it and 10 against to make me think about going back on things.

Also, another wrench: I was just discussing this in regard to next season's structure update and doing a shuffle in the non-bottom tier here, with 16 BBBs below is possibly going to cause problems for the restructure setup, as in long term it would quite possibly cause more issues than you are seeing today, making us promote entire BBB leagues up to take over the CPU leagues that would be created and such. You have to realize that this shuffling thing is merely to get us ready to go for a much bigger restructure.

I think most of the people that dont want a restructor are the ones that are going to beat up on the smaller teams. You seriously need to do something about it. We need a Branch or Region only for cap leagues, all the way from top to bottom. Alot of people want to stick together, but this promotion style never lets that happen. Start a Dynasty league, with longer contracts, more 3 and 4 season contracts with no trades allowed. Only signing free agents in your level. That way teams can grow together and create rivalries. No need to promote in those leagues either. Since every team will grow in levels at the same pace. If somethings not done next season to even out leagues, I will no longer be an owner or spend money on this game. So thats about 100$ a month you're losing bro. Please fix it soon .

I guess I approve.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=397

I have to add though:
I sure am surprised I even noticed this thread.

I bet a lot of team owners are like myself and don't pay too much attention here and sure would miss this.
As always, I think you give yourself a lot more headaches than you need to have with the way ya do things too often, Bort.

I mean, that's just one of the reasons you should have a better system for where teams go (locked in leagues with a ladder system should just be abolished, tbh). I mean... you're putting in way too much work to do this here and you're just going to end up doing this again?
(just puttin' that out there)

What a crock,the majority agree with a change,and of course nothing happens

The people who recruited high level guys are also the people who are the most active (as seen by their recruiting new players) so they saw this. The majority of owners ddnt recruit and are not active right now and probably never saw this thread.

So this poll is pretty flawed. I'd say if u did an actual owners only poll of all the owners it would be closer to the 90% approval you were looking for.

Originally posted by jrry32
Originally posted by JcWildcat

36 for it , 13 against it.


After the tedious work of writing down the team name and league number (as sometimes names are duplicated I wanted to make CERTAIN I counted correctly this time around). I even gave the for it the votes that didn't say which way as I'm sure they would say no if they were against it.

Again, thanks to those that tried to stack it (get the numbers higher), it almost worked. Number is still more for it than against it. And now I have the teams down that have had a vote. (hell I might be more thorough than Bort here)



Honestly, at this point it's getting to be late, I mean is this another 10-15 day off-season? If not, the off-season is over in like what, 2-3 days.



Pretty much. I just want to keep the team that I planned for, the variety of levels that we have always been. You guys that are for it say those against it want to beat up on smaller teams. For me, it's about keeping the team I have (same as you guys). I've had it for a couple seasons and kept it together (minus just a handful literally of players and adding about the same or getting a little more depth each season).

Your against it JcW? How would the shuffle effect your team negatively? If you liek the team you have then going against like competition would not effect you.

Originally posted by JcWildcat
Originally posted by jrry32

Originally posted by JcWildcat


36 for it , 13 against it.


After the tedious work of writing down the team name and league number (as sometimes names are duplicated I wanted to make CERTAIN I counted correctly this time around). I even gave the for it the votes that didn't say which way as I'm sure they would say no if they were against it.

Again, thanks to those that tried to stack it (get the numbers higher), it almost worked. Number is still more for it than against it. And now I have the teams down that have had a vote. (hell I might be more thorough than Bort here)



Honestly, at this point it's getting to be late, I mean is this another 10-15 day off-season? If not, the off-season is over in like what, 2-3 days.



Pretty much. I just want to keep the team that I planned for, the variety of levels that we have always been. You guys that are for it say those against it want to beat up on smaller teams. For me, it's about keeping the team I have (same as you guys). I've had it for a couple seasons and kept it together (minus just a handful literally of players and adding about the same or getting a little more depth each season).

A reshuffle does not mean that you can't keep your guys together, it just means that you'll be put with more teams at or around your level. Why should there be 4 to 8 teams scattered through the leagues that are about the same level as you? Wouldn't it make more sense to put all those teams together? Why would doing that force you to have to re-recruit?

Originally posted by Just Osmo
The people who recruited high level guys are also the people who are the most active (as seen by their recruiting new players) so they saw this. The majority of owners ddnt recruit and are not active right now and probably never saw this thread.

So this poll is pretty flawed. I'd say if u did an actual owners only poll of all the owners it would be closer to the 90% approval you were looking for.

That's why I said earlier in the thread that it would have been a better way to go to just do that. I also said hardly anyone would see this thread. I didn't see this from recruiting, I saw it linked by bort in a petition thread in GLB. I may have seen it even if I hadn't been in the GLB forum b/c I'm active in the league forum. (Don't believe that go look in A1).

But yeah, I agree the poll is flawed. Said that much earlier though it's edited out now. Oh and btw I took my vote back out of the new tallied number.

Originally posted by Just Osmo
Your against it JcW? How would the shuffle effect your team negatively? If you liek the team you have then going against like competition would not effect you.

It might not, but honestly after seeing all of the threads in GLB after the other bottom tiers were shuffled....I don't want to be the team called out for having a handful of 40 +s, against a team stacked with 35. My teams median level with the 25% factor towards the top is 35.

This league isn't getting capped. That much was said, and I believe most are ignoring that. So I also do not feel like seeing a bunch of OH NO why wasn't this capped. You know it would happen as well as I do.

For those that disagree, feel free to tell me to stay out of the forum. I'm an active owner though and like to keep my team updated on any changes, test info, or anything else so I do go in the forums.

Originally posted by jonnyGoBlue
A reshuffle does not mean that you can't keep your guys together, it just means that you'll be put with more teams at or around your level. Why should there be 4 to 8 teams scattered through the leagues that are about the same level as you? Wouldn't it make more sense to put all those teams together? Why would doing that force you to have to re-recruit?

I know what a reshuffle is. We have a wide variety of levels, from 45-21. Are there enough of those type teams out there? I don't care either way anymore about it, which is why I took my vote out of the tally.

Originally posted by JcWildcat
Originally posted by jonnyGoBlue

A reshuffle does not mean that you can't keep your guys together, it just means that you'll be put with more teams at or around your level. Why should there be 4 to 8 teams scattered through the leagues that are about the same level as you? Wouldn't it make more sense to put all those teams together? Why would doing that force you to have to re-recruit?

I know what a reshuffle is. We have a wide variety of levels, from 45-21. Are there enough of those type teams out there? I don't care either way anymore about it, which is why I took my vote out of the tally.

You didn't answer my questions, namely the one I've now bolded. I'm not trying to be a dick, just trying my best to understand the situation.

Originally posted by jonnyGoBlue
Originally posted by JcWildcat

Originally posted by jonnyGoBlue


A reshuffle does not mean that you can't keep your guys together, it just means that you'll be put with more teams at or around your level. Why should there be 4 to 8 teams scattered through the leagues that are about the same level as you? Wouldn't it make more sense to put all those teams together? Why would doing that force you to have to re-recruit?

I know what a reshuffle is. We have a wide variety of levels, from 45-21. Are there enough of those type teams out there? I don't care either way anymore about it, which is why I took my vote out of the tally.

You didn't answer my questions, namely the one I've now bolded. I'm not trying to be a dick, just trying my best to understand the situation.

I didn't answer it because no matter which way the ball drops I'm not recruiting. I've got two more on hold to sign (because they aren't released from their old team yet). I'm not going to be a bitch and drop all the agents who have been loyal to the team since it started in season 7

37 for it, 13 against.

One additional conditional yes to make it 38 for it, they want to be guaranteed to be placed with the BBB teams they played last season.

Another issue is having this thread in a general forum. Many owners do not check forums at all. I bet if Bort sent PMs to all the EE A owners (which would be silly), he'd probably get a better slice of overall pie. I'd put my money on 80/20 for/against if there was a way to get every single owner's opinion.