Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Raid
EOTP activation without overtop help:

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/814594/1885830

That's a bug then because there has been no mention to change it.

Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar



You guys complained hard enough that we got a complete rollback with any real testing over 2 games played in the snow. Let that sink in.


This seems more like just a miscommunication of what the Devs thought we wanted versus the actual request.

Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar
That's a bug then because there has been no mention to change it.

I wonder if a defender is flagged for being eligible for EotP to fire by there being over the top help at any point in the play with the current implementation. Perhaps the CB reads the Safety as being over the top because he was deeper in the field at the start of the zone read?

Originally posted by Xars
Exactly. Of course, we aren't confined in the ways you mean, but we were in the ways I mean. This is your problem. You're imaging confines that don't exist.

Where are the Nickel Zone plays that matchup against TRIPS? They don't exist. You created plenty of new plays, why didn't you create them? I did because you didn't.

Had you asked for those plays, run those plays, build to optimize those plays - and then - at that point - say, "Hey" Zone needs help. Well that's completely different story than building to optimize a broken play so you can run it better and then complaining when the broken play gets fixed.

You've been relying on a broken mechanic. You won with it. Now it's changed and you'll have to adapt. Tough.

I'm not sorry you don't get to keep running your exploit and neither is anyone else.

Grats on the Ladders you won.

Because of how the game works, Nickel Zone isn't practical, they simply do not work well in GLB2. I would also love if this game worked like real football but it does not, I'm stuck with what I have to work with. Your plays that you suggested are not good and wouldn't work, they literally would just allow teams to run strong side all day.

You literally whined and cried on here until the Devs rolled back a change due to "the sky is falling" nonsense when only 2 games were played in terrible weather. For someone who is all about data analysis that seems a bit hypocritical, especially when you suggest I should test Zone plays against the current buff.

As far as me exploiting zone? The whole reason you got Bolgarian or whatever his name was into the HoF was due to exploiting the passing game at that time and taking advantage of a weakness you found... it's how Rob took advantage of the passing game too, etc. We all find ways to win with what we have. Get over yourself, there's no need to be smug or arrogant.


Originally posted by Xars
Then request ones that do. There's a whole forum called "Suggestions" where you can post them. What you can create new plays but not SAs? Cmon, you're smarter than that but your being emotional wedded to your thought process and it has you stuck.

Get unstuck.

I keep asking for SA adjustments but you keep whining because it might make the pass buff have some consequences and we know no one wants a challenge. Heaven forbid I at least get Safeties to use Zone Shark without over the top help.

Myrik, what games are you basing the thought that zone is nerfed on? I notice you haven't even ran scrims for Kentucky, and so far I've have seen it in other team's games

I think we should nerf man defense tbh, the game in its current form of man defense is just throwing to covered players and winning catch in traffic rolls. it in no way resembles football i just see dice roll vs dice roll.

now if Recivers could get regular seperation and qbs could lead the throws better to create space and yac opportunities it would be entertaining atleast. right now man defense is boring and uninspired to watch. that's the biggest reason to run zone because its only okay and has extremely clear weakness that can be taken advantage of very easily. but... it creates turnovers and big hits at a much higher frequency.

Originally posted by ellix
I wonder if a defender is flagged for being eligible for EotP to fire by there being over the top help at any point in the play with the current implementation. Perhaps the CB reads the Safety as being over the top because he was deeper in the field at the start of the zone read?

I think the previous fix would have worked, but all the current crop of QB's have shit for Pass Awareness and kept failing the throwing arc check... but we will never know for sure now.

Originally posted by ellix
I wonder if a defender is flagged for being eligible for EotP to fire by there being over the top help at any point in the play with the current implementation. Perhaps the CB reads the Safety as being over the top because he was deeper in the field at the start of the zone read?

That's prob correct if I had to guess.

I would love for Gifs today... but that suggestion was ignored

Originally posted by BoDiddley
Myrik, what games are you basing the thought that zone is nerfed on? I notice you haven't even ran scrims for Kentucky, and so far I've have seen it in other team's games

Kentucky is in J-Man with incomplete builds, there's nothing I could gain out of it with not being in Vet.

I'm watching the same scrims as you all, and the only real vet pure zone team is Gilwice. BSB is Hybrid and GE's is J-Man like mine... I'm sure I'm missing some but that's prob the gist of it.

Originally posted by ThePh33P
I think we should nerf man defense tbh, the game in its current form of man defense is just throwing to covered players and winning catch in traffic rolls. it in no way resembles football i just see dice roll vs dice roll.

now if Recivers could get regular seperation and qbs could lead the throws better to create space and yac opportunities it would be entertaining atleast. right now man defense is boring and uninspired to watch. that's the biggest reason to run zone because its only okay and has extremely clear weakness that can be taken advantage of very easily. but... it creates turnovers and big hits at a much higher frequency.

Glad someone else sees this.

Maybe we should suggest that Man should have OAI adjusted to only fire with over the top, let's see if there is enough points to still disrupt passes as before.

Originally posted by ThePh33P
I think we should nerf man defense tbh, the game in its current form of man defense is just throwing to covered players and winning catch in traffic rolls. it in no way resembles football i just see dice roll vs dice roll.

now if Recivers could get regular seperation and qbs could lead the throws better to create space and yac opportunities it would be entertaining atleast. right now man defense is boring and uninspired to watch. that's the biggest reason to run zone because its only okay and has extremely clear weakness that can be taken advantage of very easily. but... it creates turnovers and big hits at a much higher frequency.

"regular" separation" is an exploit lol, aka madden

Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar
That's prob correct if I had to guess.

dude how can you make a QB with all the fucking shit we need now? come on now. they want us to have 80+ in all stats? damn even a super star QB cant do that.

Originally posted by ThePh33P
I think we should nerf man defense tbh, the game in its current form of man defense is just throwing to covered players and winning catch in traffic rolls. it in no way resembles football i just see dice roll vs dice roll.

now if Recivers could get regular seperation and qbs could lead the throws better to create space and yac opportunities it would be entertaining atleast. right now man defense is boring and uninspired to watch. that's the biggest reason to run zone because its only okay and has extremely clear weakness that can be taken advantage of very easily. but... it creates turnovers and big hits at a much higher frequency.

lol, Tecmo Jerry Rice got separation all season long in S54 with fakes. I don't get the zone is nerfed thing, and god forbid Man was nerfed. Careful what you wish for. My rushing QB is still able to throw at Vet

Originally posted by dredgar
dude how can you make a QB with all the fucking shit we need now? come on now. they want us to have 80+ in all stats? damn even a super star QB cant do that.

Is it any different with most of the defense guys? The only position I see that doesn't hurt for points is HB's, tbh.

Originally posted by ThePh33P
I think we should nerf man defense tbh, the game in its current form of man defense is just throwing to covered players and winning catch in traffic rolls. it in no way resembles football i just see dice roll vs dice roll.

ngl, no idea how that could be improved

Originally posted by dredgar
dude how can you make a QB with all the fucking shit we need now? come on now. they want us to have 80+ in all stats? damn even a super star QB cant do that.

You're not, that's the entire point of having builds.