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Originally posted by Galithor
This passing fix upsets me I wish it'd been in place back when I spent my GLB2 days watching Cleveland airmail a half a dozen passes unreachably far downfield.

Unless defenders suddenly got better at turning and reacting to underthrown passes, that's a fairly significant buff for deep passing I suspect.

Yea, I dont see how this is going to hurt passing at all. I just ran a Zone Cover 2 test with no INTs, running a Cover 4 test now to see if I can bait the QB to throw the ball a little deeper to see what it looks like.

I'd think a Cover 4 test would push QBs to throw more underneath stuff on 1st and 2nd down.

That expectation is precisely why I want to build a defense one day centered around Cover 4 usage.

Originally posted by Galithor
I'd think a Cover 4 test would push QBs to throw more underneath stuff on 1st and 2nd down.

That expectation is precisely why I want to build a defense one day centered around Cover 4 usage.

I'm using cover 4 a bunch now.

Originally posted by Galithor
I'd think a Cover 4 test would push QBs to throw more underneath stuff on 1st and 2nd down.

That expectation is precisely why I want to build a defense one day centered around Cover 4 usage.

It's a public scrim, I ran some yesterday and the QB would throw it deep a lot of time with TE Drive. I'll try to post some highlights when its over.

Originally posted by Parab00n
It's a public scrim, I ran some yesterday and the QB would throw it deep a lot of time with TE Drive. I'll try to post some highlights when its over.

That's interesting since TE Drive really runs right into the teeth of Cover 4 pretty consistently

Originally posted by Galithor
This passing fix upsets me I wish it'd been in place back when I spent my GLB2 days watching Cleveland airmail a half a dozen passes unreachably far downfield.

Unless defenders suddenly got better at turning and reacting to underthrown passes, that's a fairly significant buff for deep passing I suspect.

It didn't seem like a nerf in my SCO vs. PORN game. Open public scrim.

Passing seems the same as last season. My pass heavy soph team (highest team I have) is passing at the rate rate as last season. No real changes in my scrims thus far.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/203048/8797 - Looks like a bad pass and underthrown
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/203048/8803
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/203048/8851 - Overthrown
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/203048/8880 - Typical GLB2 Zone coverage, screw your assignment chase players around instead...
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/203048/9158 - Underthrown, great job defender

Originally posted by MadCow420
Passing seems the same as last season. My pass heavy soph team (highest team I have) is passing at the rate rate as last season. No real changes in my scrims thus far.

Yea I haven't noticed a difference either.

Originally posted by Xars
It didn't seem like a nerf in my SCO vs. PORN game. Open public scrim.

You played them well for 3 quarters.

The passes seem more like lasers than lobs now

Originally posted by Parab00n
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/203048/8797 - Looks like a bad pass and underthrown
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/203048/8803
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/203048/8851 - Overthrown
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/203048/8880 - Typical GLB2 Zone coverage, screw your assignment chase players around instead...
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/203048/9158 - Underthrown, great job defender

If I'm reading Bort's change right, none of these are relevant examples.

Originally posted by Bort
- Poorly thrown passes are now more likely to be underthrown and have a larger miss radius when nearing QB's maximum pass distance

I'm curious if this means maximum pass distance at normal vertical levels (throwing on a rope), or maximum when lofting it?

Originally posted by Xars
It didn't seem like a nerf in my SCO vs. PORN game. Open public scrim.

Going through it, not really seeing many relevant plays.

Most likely relevant plays:
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/199519/2977168 (seems short and to the left of where a more accurate throw would be)
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/199519/2977491 (the underthrown aspect at least let's the corner make a jumping attempt to deflect it)

Maybe, though I'd guess the change doesn't affect this one:
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/199519/2977246 (seems about normal)

Originally posted by Absolut Zero
Going through it, not really seeing many relevant plays.

Most likely relevant plays:
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/199519/2977168 (seems short and to the left of where a more accurate throw would be)
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/199519/2977491 (the underthrown aspect at least let's the corner make a jumping attempt to deflect it)

Maybe, though I'd guess the change doesn't affect this one:
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/199519/2977246 (seems about normal)

3rd link should have been a INT (ok maybe not a guarantee).

Deep passes at the edge of a QBs Power should be inaccurate enough that double coverage on the WR leads to a pick.

High Power QBs throwing 10-15 yards shouldn't be pick magnets, but once your 25+ yards downfield that inaccuracy radius should expand enough so that double coverage leads to a bunch of picks. From the pocket, that's a 27 yard throw from a Seasoned QB. I'm curious what the Pass Power rating is on him.

Originally posted by Xars
3rd link should have been a INT (ok maybe not a guarantee).

Deep passes at the edge of a QBs Power should be inaccurate enough that double coverage on the WR leads to a pick.

High Power QBs throwing 10-15 yards shouldn't be pick magnets, but once your 25+ Yards downfield that inaccuracy radius should expand enough so that double coverage leads to a bunch of picks.



Problem is how many players have actually put a large amount of SP into the Interception skill? I imagine most players at the Seasoned level haven't put a point into it. At Vet, you see some builds with 25-30 interception, but if it's anything like receiving hands/CiT, shouldn't it be more like 70?