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william78
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Originally posted by bhall43
Your LB gave up 2 complete passes on 2 targets this season. How is he effective again?


Your right bad example.

Are you saying LB's are not much more effective this season than last though?
 
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What really gets me is he then posts this

Originally posted by william78
Making passing teams pay for throwing into double coverage



But that 0 for your other 5 "attempts" towards your LB were all him being within the area along with other defenders and him not being in any sort of direct man coverage. So the sim is doing exactly what you claim to want, but yet it isn't because how?
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
But that 0 for your other 5 "attempts" towards your LB were all him being within the area along with other defenders and him not being in any sort of direct man coverage. So the sim is doing exactly what you claim to want, but yet it isn't because how?


Interceptions?

Especially since I included the INT numbers.
Edited by william78 on Feb 4, 2015 18:37:21
 
Parab00n
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Originally posted by william78
Interceptions?

Especially since I included the INT numbers.


So you want more interceptions?
 
william78
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Originally posted by Parab00n
So you want more interceptions?


In general yes. As I said I think overall passing completion % numbers were fine, especially against teams running blitz scenarios that don't get pressure. Part of the jeopardy of throwing is throwing the INT in the face of pressure or when the QB throws into double coverage.
 
Parab00n
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Originally posted by william78
In general yes. As I said I think overall passing completion % numbers were fine, especially against teams running blitz scenarios that don't get pressure. Part of the jeopardy of throwing is throwing the INT in the face of pressure or when the QB throws into double coverage.


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william78
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Originally posted by Parab00n
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/153999/346565?player_id=85604
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/153999/346285?player_id=85604
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I'm aware the game has interceptions .... I'm saying the number overall is insufficient compared to the number of passing attempts that are recorded.
 
bhall43
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I think INT's are pretty good right now. Especially considering the builds of players I look at around the league and the superstar ratio.

Hell Harrisonburg just threw 4 picks against Salty with a Superstar QB and the best WR in GLB2.
 
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Originally posted by william78
I'm aware the game has interceptions .... I'm saying the number overall is insufficient compared to the number of passing attempts that are recorded.


That's 6 INT's from a SS QB in 3 games, are you thinking that 12 would be a more realistic number?
 
bhall43
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Anyways I really hate debating GLB to the NFL. It is absolutely silly. You can't equate the stats of an NFL team to a player oriented game like this.
 
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Originally posted by william78
Lack of Jeopardy:

Season 8 My QB threw 14 interceptions high by GLB2 standards but very misleading - we threw 1,613 passes in 30 games. Thats one interception every 115 passes; that would literally be hall of fame territory and its his highest interception ratio of his career.

NFL Average last season for all QBs playing 500 or more snaps: 1 every 45. Not enough passing jeopardy.

That's part of the reason I'm so big with CB's playing with their backs to the ball , off the WR, and giving more space. Also saying that pressure does not always equal sacks.

If you don't like #'s look at Tom Brady's last 3 interceptions this season (2 in the SuperBowl 1 against the Colts)
One caused by pressure the Michael Bennett pressure that Brady then underthrows
One to Bobby Wagner (Wagner playing with his eyes on Brady simply tracks the throw takes it away)
One to D'Qwell Jackson throwing into double coverage down the middle

The problem is never completion percentage and buffing LB's , S's , and CB's ability to break up passes was a the wrong direction. Making passing teams pay for throwing into double coverage, having bad throws under pressure, and aligning DB's to where they can best play is a much better answer.






Come on stat boy, over 300 of your passes last season were screen passes.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
I think INT's are pretty good right now. Especially considering the builds of players I look at around the league and the superstar ratio.

Hell Harrisonburg just threw 4 picks against Salty with a Superstar QB and the best WR in GLB2.


Thats after this past season eroding the completion %. With less velocity on passing in general. I think a similar effect could have been achieved without the changes made.

I'm not sure if DD's interception percentage last year of 1 per game is the worst in GLB; but it still comes out to 1 in every 81 attempts(. Thats the only realistic number in the game. That's better than every NFL QB last season with the exception of Aaron Rodgers. Rusty's last year was one every 122 passes... still potential hall of fame territory. Going back to 2007 (as far back as my stats database goes): You've had 4 seasons where someone threw less than 1 interception every 100 attempts; Brady, Rodgers twice , and Garrad. Year in and year out its about 1 in 45 attempts
 
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Originally posted by Parab00n
That's 6 INT's from a SS QB in 3 games, are you thinking that 12 would be a more realistic number?


Again thats this season.... not last season keeping the passing percentages roughly the same.
 
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Originally posted by Parab00n
Come on stat boy, over 300 of your passes last season were screen passes.


I've seen a fair number of pick 6's on bad screen passes except here
 
Galithor
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Interceptions would absolutely be higher if more folks built for it. It's hard to do though. If you build for interceptions, you're probably cannon-fodder against Minnesota type teams. Those skill points gotta come from somewhere, and that somewhere is usually tackling skills.

More S* secondary players would help. They have the skill points to pull it off.
Edited by Galithor on Feb 4, 2015 19:03:48
 
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