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TehKyou
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Nah, I knew we were going to lose, but I didn't want to display that much of a defeatist attitude before the game .

And yeah, I was expecting alot more ZEB. So I built our playbook/gameplan around that. I kinda felt like I didn't get to face your true defense with my best chance to beat it, made me a sad panda. I'll probably try for a scrim later in the season during one of the inevitable times I get bored
Edited by TehKyou on Apr 14, 2015 08:55:01
Edited by TehKyou on Apr 14, 2015 08:52:29
 
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right now I'm just trying to develop the best balanced offense in the tier.
 
Absolut Zero
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Originally posted by TehKyou
right now I'm just trying to develop the best balanced offense in the tier.


I don't think balanced offenses can compete with all run or all pass until Sophomore. Just clicking through some teams in Rookie and it looks like the following in the Top 25 are balanced:

Ladder Rank - Team
#4 No Name
#10 South End Vipers
#14 Colorado Stoners
#15 Sperm Whales
#16 Legacy
#19 HAHA
#21 Deadman Odyssey
#22 Portland Ronin
#23 Orlando Predators
#25 Simpsons

So I suppose it's possible for a balanced offense built a certain way to contend in Rookie. At least No Name at #4 seems to be doing it, but maybe that's from stellar defense. Let's sort the above by total offensive yards:

O. Yards Rank - Team
#10 South End Vipers
#11 No Name
#20 HAHA
#21 Simpsons
#22 Colorado Stoners
#23 Sperm Whales
#26 Legacy
#41 Portland Ronin
#44 Orlando Predators
#48 Deadman Odyssey
 
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So I'll just have to beat No Name then. We struggled alot early in the season, took me awhile to get my legs under me. I consider it a transition period going from a pure passing offense to a balance one
 
FairForever
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Yeah our team is definitely stronger on D. The O isn't bad though we have our stinker games (like this one against the Simpsons today - defense really kept us in it). 11th in total yards gained in the tier is still not bad for a balanced team.
 
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Originally posted by jfbueno
And with the Virgins getting deflowered there is now only 1 undisputed king of rookie. Let's get to the predictions

#1 Panty Obliterating Rectal Ninjas vs. #14 San Diego Sperm Whales

San Diego gets the unfortunate task of taking on the best team in rookie in PORN. San Diego has been in close games all season and hasn't been blown out in any as of now. PORN on the other hand gave another quality ladder team their biggest blowout loss of the season. The DP attack on offense is no joke and hasn't shown any signs of slowing down. The defense has also been great in their own right with a decent amount of their defenders taking over the HOF voting. San Diego probably gets their first blowout loss of the season unless they can find some magic quickly. PORN 35-7

#2 The Salty Runback vs. #10 Omaha BEEF

The new #2 team in rookie boasts one of the best defenses in rookie and plays a good ground attack in BEEF that no team should sleep on. This will be a very interesting matchup and I currently have it as the 2nd best game of the week. I expect salty's balanced offense to give some issues to Omaha while Salty should be able to contain an all rush team. Even one as good as Omaha's. Salty 17-14

#3 I've STILL Never Had Sex vs. #15 ENMU Greyhounds

Some of the Virgins management gave me crap for picking against them in an upset pick a few ladder games ago. Karma reared it's ugly head the following ladder week and shit all over the Virgins. Maybe next time you guys should leave my ladder game predictions in peace before being asshats about it and having karmic justice punch you in your virgin ovaries. Virgins 42-7

#4 Bloody Slaughterhouse vs. #18 Deadman Odyssey

The 2nd best heavy passing team in rookie takes on an overmatched Odyssey team that I don't think has too much of a chance. Unless Deadman can find a good defense to limit the passing attack it could get ugly quick. Bloody 31-10

#5 Mannheim Steamroller vs. #6 Ashland Dockers

This is my game of the week. Mannheim is coming off getting steamrolled by PORN while Ashland has all of a sudden looked very vulnerable with two bad losses. Will Ashland be able to write the ship and limit this powerful Mannheim running offense? Will Mannheim be able to successfully limit the passing attack of Ashland unlike what they did with PORN. Think this might be a close one with Ashland winning 20-10

#7 No Name vs. #22 The Simpsons

The heavy passing attack of No Name takes on the surprisingly underachieving Simpsons. No Name is a very underrated team with a few surprising losses along the way while the Simpsons seem to be righting the ship a little after a few disappointing games. This one should be a close one but I have to take No Name with their offense over the Simpsons. No Name 24-14

#8 Gliwice Lions vs. #13 Legacy

Gliwice has done well lately and comes across the resurgent Legacy. Although Legacy only plans on being around for 1 season they're doing a good job of staying competitive in ladder games and currently lead their division in league play. I think Legacy pulls off the upset here with a decent job in limited the running game. Legacy 27-10

#9 South End Vipers vs. #17 Salary Cap Optimization

South End takes on the struggling Salary Cap. Salary cap started off the season great with a decent undefeated streak to start the season but have since faltered quite a bit and failed to find their groove. South End on the other hand has been a pretty consistent top 10 team and looks to try to push through to the top 5 at some point. I think South End gets towards that goal with a good win. South End 17-7


You forgot I run Enmu greyhounds defense when they aren't playing my teams. So piss on the virgins
 
jfbueno
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To be fair I picked the virgins in hoping they would lose since that seemed to work last time. Job well done
 
dredgar
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Originally posted by jfbueno
To be fair I picked the virgins in hoping they would lose since that seemed to work last time. Job well done


Alright fair enoigh
 
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Originally posted by jfbueno
#8 Gliwice Lions vs. #13 Legacy

Gliwice has done well lately and comes across the resurgent Legacy. Although Legacy only plans on being around for 1 season they're doing a good job of staying competitive in ladder games and currently lead their division in league play. I think Legacy pulls off the upset here with a decent job in limited the running game. Legacy 27-10


GG, Gliwice. We were one missed play call away from a pretty resounding win. Nice job taking advantage.
 
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Originally posted by Absolut Zero
I don't think balanced offenses can compete with all run or all pass until Sophomore.


Pretty sure this is a load of BS. Legacy hasn't lost since (well they did lose today but that is besides the point ) they had a team and Salty and No Name are very good balanced teams. The balanced teams who can't put it together are just the ones who are stubbornly running some bad plays.
Edited by bhall43 on Apr 14, 2015 13:05:11
Edited by bhall43 on Apr 14, 2015 13:04:35
 
Absolut Zero
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Originally posted by bhall43
Pretty sure this is a load of BS. Legacy hasn't lost since (well they did lose today but that is besides the point ) they had a team


If we take the teams they've beaten with their past win streak, it was against the #62, #39, #35, #39 (tied), #70, #43, #22 ranked teams. Only the 22nd rank team had a winning record, some of those teams were full CPU rosters. Legacy did what they were supposed to do against that competition.

Originally posted by bhall43
and Salty and No Name are very good balanced teams.


I mentioned No Name above. I suppose Salty is balanced though, for some reason I thought they were like 90% passing. Turns out they run 25% of the time which is good enough at the Rookie level.

Originally posted by bhall43
The balanced teams who can't put it together are just the ones who are stubbornly running some bad plays.


True, I freely admit I stubbornly run some plays that don't really work right now. They'll work eventually though! ...I hope.
 
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Originally posted by Absolut Zero
True, I freely admit I stubbornly run some plays that don't really work right now. They'll work eventually though! ...I hope.


It isn't just you though. I understand why you are running the plays you are as your offense is built like that. But a lot of those balanced teams that aren't cutting the mustard right now just aren't running very good plays or don't have decently built players. It is pretty much that simple. If I can ZEB/Engage 8 you to the tune of 20+ sacks, you are doing something very wrong.
 
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Salty isn't that balanced. A lot of "balanced" teams aren't balanced in a lot of down and distance situations.

Too many balanced teams run in short yardage and throw in long yardage. That's not balanced.

Hell SCO held Salty to something like 70 net yards (after sacks).

SCO-Salty was just insane Rookie D/ inept Rookie O.

Oh and GG Vipers.

 
AirMcMVP
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Originally posted by Absolut Zero
If we take the teams they've beaten with their past win streak, it was against the #62, #39, #35, #39 (tied), #70, #43, #22 ranked teams. Only the 22nd rank team had a winning record, some of those teams were full CPU rosters. Legacy did what they were supposed to do against that competition.


I hate this argument. You play the teams you're scheduled to play. There's no control. Today, against the #8 team, the offense put up a decent 315 yards and only lost because a blown play call against Trips.
 
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Originally posted by Xars
Salty isn't that balanced. A lot of "balanced" teams aren't balanced in a lot of down and distance situations.

Too many balanced teams run in short yardage and throw in long yardage. That's not balanced.

Hell SCO held Salty to something like 70 net yards (after sacks).

SCO-Salty was just insane Rookie D/ inept Rookie O.

Oh and GG Vipers.



They pass 80% of the time, but they have a running game. 14 of their 30+ runs against me were on first and second down in non short yardage situations.
 
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