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Originally posted by n:iceman:16

Because it's too expensive for his tastes so he's taking it for free without permission.

Wait.


I thought the "problem" was that the only way he could get it was a TV subscription that comes with other MTV-esque channels that he doesnt want.
 
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Since this has turned into a piracy thread, and I'm finally home, I'll give my thought on it.

Yes, it is "wrong", and it is getting a "work of art" for free.

However, it's hard to deny that it does have a positive effect on the market. It creates competition for distribution platforms. Sure, it's hard to beat the pricepoint of free, but people will pay for convenience. Steam and iTunes have done more to combat piracy than any law enforcement endeavors. This isn't because they have a competitive price compared to free, but because they are so damn easy, but still offer decent price points.

Typing an album name into iTunes, paying 5 bucks, and having it within a couple minutes is just so much faster and easier than trying to find a torrent, hoping theres seeders, hoping it's real, and hoping it isn't full of viruses. And, maybe I'm naive, but I think if people are given two comparable options with one being "wrong", they are almost always going to choose the other.

The only industry that hasn't caught up to music and games are TV series and movies. There's too many different services to the point where you need some kind of spreadsheet to see which service which show you want to see is on, and then you need to pay and remember a dozen different services. It's easier to find a torrent and pray that it works rather than pull out your spreadsheet to find out which service this season of Hannibal is airing on.

Even Adobe has went with the "cheaper and more convenient" route. Photoshop that used to cost 800 dollars now costs 10 dollars a month, with automatic updates, etc. You just sign up and it works.

So is it wrong? Yes. But if it helps create innovation and improved customer experience, then I can't entirely condemn it.
Edited by Corndog on Sep 3, 2014 18:41:06
 
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Also on the topic of piracy, the ironic part about games is that the more they try to prevent piracy the more appealing piracy becomes.

Adding all kinds of restrictions like entering codes, constant online check ins, limited numbers of installs, etc, etc just makes the pirated copy without all of that crap that much more enticing.

The whole honey vs vinegar thing.
 
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Originally posted by nsully89
I thought the "problem" was that the only way he could get it was a TV subscription that comes with other MTV-esque channels that he doesnt want.

That problem derives from him being dumb since that isn't at all the only way he can get the games he wants.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Typing an album name into iTunes, paying 5 bucks, and having it within a couple minutes is just so much faster and easier than trying to find a torrent, hoping theres seeders, hoping it's real, and hoping it isn't full of viruses.

Simply put: no, it isn't.
 
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Originally posted by n:iceman:16
Simply put: no, it isn't.


Uh, yes it is.
 
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But you're right, music piracy is thriving as much as it was before iTunes.

Oh, wait, no music piracy is on it's deathbed compared to the early 2000s.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Uh, yes it is.

I can torrent any new album I want in 2 minutes. Maybe you don't know how to torrent.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Oh, wait, no music piracy is on it's deathbed compared to the early 2000s.

What does "on its deathbed" mean? That there are half as many seeders and I can still get anything I want just as easily as I ever could before with torrents?
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Uh, yes it is.


Its actually not. I can pirate something much faster then I can purchase it on iTunes. I can probably have it added to my torrent list before iTunes even opens.
 
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Originally posted by n:iceman:16
I can torrent any new album I want in 2 minutes. Maybe you don't know how to torrent.


Thief.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Thief.

I'll take that as an admission of your ignorance on the subject.
 
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But yes, music piracy is down
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/ispnews/data/upimages/subfolders/2011%20Statistics/2010_uk_internet_piracy.gif
https://indigoboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/piracy-graph-300x222.jpg
http://chinatrack.typepad.com/.a/6a00e55007b56888330148c70700f5970c-pi

What year did iTunes become popular again?
Edited by Corndog on Sep 3, 2014 19:04:39
 
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You're welcome to try to change the subject, but I'm not going to bite. Torrenting albums is just as easy now as it was a decade ago.
 
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Originally posted by n:iceman:16
You're welcome to try to change the subject, but I'm not going to bite. Torrenting albums is just as easy now as it was a decade ago.


Yep.

But buying music legitimately is about 100 times easier than it was a decade ago.
 
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