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Originally posted by Deathblade
I like that tbh

Base expected salary on things in the OP of this thread, sp value etc

That was my original idea tbh. Catch thought it was too hard to figure out or something along those lines and we came up with comparing it to other players.

Originally posted by Team Nucleus
name calling can be done without especially from our leader o_O

There was no name calling. He said the conspiracy theories are stupid, not the users who posted them.

Originally posted by Team Nucleus
name calling can be done without especially from our leader o_O

What exactly did he call you?

and quite frankly you deserved it spewing untrue facts

Originally posted by Staz
If we tied expected salary into something other than league average, and had their "morale" be impacted by how close to their expected salary they were, then I'd be ready to support the entire thing.

Originally posted by Deathblade
I like that tbh

Base expected salary on things in the OP of this thread, sp value etc

me too. I've been staying out of all this stuff because frankly I haven't had time to really look hard at it, but this makes a ton of sense.

Originally posted by Team Nucleus
name calling can be done without especially from our leader o_O

your theory was stupid. Are you saying you're stupid?

the fact salary is based on effective level is stupid.

Originally posted by Team Nucleus
name calling can be done without especially from our leader o_O

You started hurling accusations. Hardly seems fair for you to get all agitated.

Originally posted by sjmay
Bort/Catch,

Was that the major complaint of the system? The morale?

I understand "complexity" might be the major complaint, but that doesn't really hold any water, it's a simple system that required a lot of text to explain.

Just wondering if everyone was freaked about the morale issue.

You should know first hand, you have a hard enough time finding people that want to coordinate teams now, just imagine how many people were turned off by adding even more complexity to the game.

Some people don't have time for all of that, most don't, tbh. More and more people are giving up coordinating altogether because they don't have enough time for the serious commitment that it takes, so by adding more complexity it was just pushing more and more people away.

Agree or not, it is the truth. And I'm not one of the people that said that they were quitting, but every season it is just something else, more and more topped on top of it. It gets exhausting after a while, the game starts feeling like a full-time job.

Originally posted by Deathblade
I like that tbh

Base expected salary on things in the OP of this thread, sp value etc

I mean, what this does, is it incorporates the tactical signings of the first concept, with the "super team" penalty in this thread...WITHOUT the 2 major problems I've pointed out in this thread.

Originally posted by Team Nucleus
name calling can be done without especially from our leader o_O

Where did I call you a name? I said your conspiracy theory was stupid. I didn't call you stupid.

Originally posted by Bort
That was my original idea tbh. Catch thought it was too hard to figure out or something along those lines and we came up with comparing it to other players.

Wouldn't it just be a formula that you have to plug in? You would just have to tell it where to pull the data from

Keeping the original version,wont solve the problem many people are complaining about.But do what you want.Originally posted by bmac1188
I've been reading this thread for over an hour now and nothing more has made more sense to me than this post. You have to make people want to play this game, not turn them away from the game. Until you make the majority of the people happy or content, you will lose more in the long run.

Bingo

Originally posted by Bort
That was my original idea tbh. Catch thought it was too hard to figure out or something along those lines and we came up with comparing it to other players.

If you could give a reason for players to WANT higher salary (maybe allowing them to purchase things that improve physical performance/football skills/temp boosts, etc), then you could base it on performance/fame as well. That would be a little tougher to avoid exploits with, though, I know. The main exploit would be teams sandbagging stats to have low salaries at the high levels.

Originally posted by Bort
That was my original idea tbh. Catch thought it was too hard to figure out or something along those lines and we came up with comparing it to other players.

Well, I'm not crazy about the "guess the value"...have it show up somewhere what a player's expected salary will be. Have it recalculate every offseason or something.

Originally posted by David Stern
Originally posted by Team Nucleus

name calling can be done without especially from our leader o_O

your theory was stupid. Are you saying you're stupid?

Some of these changes in theory are stupid then.Not just saying either.