Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Pagypie
and apparently less tears and more of a life lol

So you think a good WR NEEDs 80+ catching and 65+ carrying? Have you read this thread or just spouting off crap. Many WRs see tons of KL and have high carrying and catching.

Originally posted by steellithium
You can 4th/5th cap carrying in the long run by level 3. That 30 points will be the last time you train or spend anything on it. You guys aren't very good at math. The whole point of cap building is to save SP in the long run. Anything that is .5 saves more than .33. I'm done trying if you guys don't understand this.

Lol noob (since you arent flames). Learn how to build a player.

Originally posted by PierreThomas
70 carrying is more than most power backs have. Are you saying that WRs should need more carrying than RBs?

I'm just saying 2:1 cap it first. It is the most return on investment. You will still be able to cap everything else and ignore from level 3 on. By the time you get to level 50+ your receiver will have carrying be a none issue. You will secure every catch.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=695956

Our WR Joe Monk had 12 catches and 7 knocked loose balls in our first scrim. Keep in mind this is a WR who has ~50 carrying and ~75 catching who has been one of the top receivers in USA Pro the past several seasons...

It's just plain retarded.... Catching NEEDS to factor into the anti-KL roll (it currently does not). In real life, the act of catching a pass is the receivers ability to get control of the ball AND bring it safely into his body quickly. The fact that GLB cheapens catching by making it not part of the entire catching process is just stupid.

Making carrying the deciding factor in a receivers ability to bring a ball he is in the process of catching into his body is also equally stupid...

Not really having a bias either way, I think that the number of ticks where there the ball can be knocked loose could be dialed down a bit.

Knocked loose has always been around, one of my CBs had 20-25 in a season before they were called out as "knocked loose" and before there was Jackhammer. However, in my opinion Ball Hawk and Zone Spec ratcheted up the coverage quality a ton, particularly in regard to recovery from being burnt or getting S help.

What's silly to me is that the best "fix" I've seen for knocked loose is Break Tackle AEQ + Break Tackle VA's+ decent STR. If you break the tackle, the guy who missed can't knock the ball loose.

Originally posted by Drago
You're a fucking moron in pathetic leagues with a pathetic track record, so congrats on your crowning achievement in GLB is getting me to respond to your trolling. You should spend less time on the message boards and more time slitting your wrists for making such shitty dots. FS with 12 deflections in a season? Wow, Benoit urself.
wow you're foaming pretty hard, you must really take browser games seriously...

sorry i'd love to continue this battle of wits but you're obviously unstable and immature, take this stuff way too seriously and probably need to go outside. speaking of which i have to go call an attractive female that i'm attempting to hook up with... i wouldn't expect you to understand why that's a bigger priority than GLB but, alas, i don't think you talk to people often nm leave your mother's basement.

Originally posted by Dirtmcgirt66
Lol noob (since you arent flames). Learn how to build a player.

You people are idiots. You pretend to understand cap building, when you actually have no idea what you are doing. Use the leveling bonuses. Speed will only earn 2 points in the first 10 levels. Carrying will earn 5 points in the same 10 levels. If you 2:1 cap by level 3, you will save 4 SP by level 10 on speed. If you 2:1 carrying by level 10, you will save 8 SP.

8 > 4

Go back and think.

Originally posted by
Then 4th/5th cap carrying and problem solved. Oh wait, your WR won't have any speed/agility/catching/vision/jumping, my bad.

So its okay that LBs to have to fill up every attribute but god forbid an offensive player has to do it.

Originally posted by Pagypie
Originally posted by Drago

You're a fucking moron in pathetic leagues with a pathetic track record, so congrats on your crowning achievement in GLB is getting me to respond to your trolling. You should spend less time on the message boards and more time slitting your wrists for making such shitty dots. FS with 12 deflections in a season? Wow, Benoit urself.
wow you're foaming pretty hard, you must really take browser games seriously...

sorry i'd love to continue this battle of wits but you're obviously unstable and immature, take this stuff way too seriously and probably need to go outside. speaking of which i have to go call an attractive female that i'm attempting to hook up with... i wouldn't expect you to understand why that's a bigger priority than GLB but, alas, i don't think you talk to people often nm leave your mother's basement.



OMG! Way to play the "IRL I'm a stud and only fuck on supermodels card." Sorry I'm content enough with the fact that my girl is actually an ex-model and I don't need to make shit up on the internet as a part of my life.

A loser IRL? Is it the guy who makes the post or the complete fucking moron who comes in and says, "cry less"... because how fucking pathetic is that piece of shit that he'd actually take the time out of his "incredibly busy day fucking supermodels" to respond to the OP in the first place?

Welcome to the blacklist dumbfuck, enjoy your time never mattering around here.

Originally posted by steellithium
You people are idiots. You pretend to understand cap building, when you actually have no idea what you are doing. Use the leveling bonuses. Speed will only earn 2 points in the first 10 levels. Carrying will earn 5 points in the same 10 levels. If you 2:1 cap by level 3, you will save 4 SP by level 10 on speed. If you 2:1 carrying by level 10, you will save 8 SP.

8 > 4

Go back and think.

It isn't "saving" SP unless you planned on spending that SP. Capping carrying and letting it go to 60 isn't "worth" 2:1 from 50 to 60 if you never intended to, nor care about, getting carrying that high via skill points. Spend SP is still spent SP. Capping with no regard to what it would cost you is silly, especially capping carrying at level 3. You're wasting a ton of training value at that point, which is certainly far superior to natural gain value anyway.

But yeah, I'm still on your side here. Plus with 0.33 gains on spd/agi or whatever, you want to train until at least 25, the training value will far supersede the natural gain value until this point I'd say.

Originally posted by steellithium
You people are idiots. You pretend to understand cap building, when you actually have no idea what you are doing. Use the leveling bonuses. Speed will only earn 2 points in the first 10 levels. Carrying will earn 5 points in the same 10 levels. If you 2:1 cap by level 3, you will save 4 SP by level 10 on speed. If you 2:1 carrying by level 10, you will save 8 SP.

8 > 4

Go back and think.

Depending on what cap you plan to pump speed to, soft-capping carrying first does not necessarily have more value. It also depends on how high you want your WRs carrying long term.

Your a smart guy steel, but arguing that all WRs should be required to pump carrying first in order to not have every ball knocked loose is a bit of a stretch as an argument.

Originally posted by steellithium
You people are idiots. You pretend to understand cap building, when you actually have no idea what you are doing. Use the leveling bonuses. Speed will only earn 2 points in the first 10 levels. Carrying will earn 5 points in the same 10 levels. If you 2:1 cap by level 3, you will save 4 SP by level 10 on speed. If you 2:1 carrying by level 10, you will save 8 SP.

8 > 4

Go back and think.

No noob. You just have no idea on how to build players.

Get some carrying noobs.

Originally posted by Pagypie
wow you're foaming pretty hard, you must really take browser games seriously...

sorry i'd love to continue this battle of wits but you're obviously unstable and immature, take this stuff way too seriously and probably need to go outside. speaking of which i have to go call an attractive female that i'm attempting to hook up with... i wouldn't expect you to understand why that's a bigger priority than GLB but, alas, i don't think you talk to people often nm leave your mother's basement.



Don't talk to your father that way.

Originally posted by ImTheScientist
Get some carrying noobs.

Don't you have some relgation issues to worry about?